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thats fine.

but we aren't talking about Clinton. We're talking about Melanie Trump, a republican in an RNC thread. don't deflect.

it's cool if you don't view it that way. but i do, and so do millions of others, clearly. She isn't running for public office, but she's still an extension of her husband in this potential role of FLOTUS.

Trump has a history of shadiness. His wife being shady as hell doesn't make matters any better, bro.

trying to run government like a business has the makings of a complete disaster.


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Apparently there is an Internet prank called Rick rolling? You click on a link and it takes you to a video of Rick Astlley's Never Gonna Give You Up song. Never heard of it before but someone called into Glenn Beck today talking about the end of her speech.

'He will never give up, he will never ever let you down'.

It was hilarious, they actually started playing the song as background music to her speech.
The point they were making was that whoever this speech writer was, by adding this to the speech was thumbing his nose in the Trumps face while getting paid to do so.

What a sad state of affairs.


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see? this man had to drop out of a damn race because of what he did.

but this? we can't even so much as hold her accountable and give an apology?


Nope... the press, the Obama administration and the Hillary campaign will obviously be held responsible for their despicable act of pointing out that this was indeed plagiarism.

Hillary wasn't held responsible for handling information classified above top secret on an unsecured, private server. She wasn't held responsible for having information on that server that she had absolutely no business having access to. She wasn't held responsible for deleting tens of thousands of emails in a specific way to make those emails unretrievable. I doubt she was going to be held responsible for pointing out the gross similarities between speeches given by first ladies.

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Let's face it, it's obvious this speech was plagiarized. But here's where the problem is. It's obvious this speech was written by a speech writer. For Melania to have said she wrote it, was in fact a lie.

So now the Trump campaign is backed into a corner. If they fire a speech writer for this, then it shows that in fact Melania lied. If they try to deny it, they look foolish. It's a no win situation.

Is a bigger deal being made out of it than should be? Yes. But that sounds no less follish than the position the other side is in.


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Apparently there is an Internet prank called Rick rolling? You click on a link and it takes you to a video of Rick Astlley's Never Gonna Give You Up song. Never heard of it before but someone called into Glenn Beck today talking about the end of her speech.

'He will never give up, he will never ever let you down'.

It was hilarious, they actually started playing the song as background music to her speech.
The point they were making was that whoever this speech writer was, by adding this to the speech was thumbing his nose in the Trumps face while getting paid to do so.

What a sad state of affairs.


It's an old internet prank, probably going on ten years old at this point, and it's pretty much what you describe. Somebody posts a link ostensibly about something completely unrelated, and it takes you to Rick Astley's song.

You can read more about it here.

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There is one small difference in that Melania is not running for any public office. Here's something that I've alluded to before on here about running a business: a lot of people are bad at their jobs. Just finding someone who does what they are supposed to do, does a good job, and does it on time is very hard to find.


Michelle wasn't running for office and wrote her own speech. And I find it odd how you mention it's so hard to find someone who does a good job, and does it on time, but won't even bother to look up what our current first lady's core of accomplishments are. How hypocritical. Please do a little research before posting again. Thanks


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Let's face it, it's obvious this speech was plagiarized. But here's where the problem is. It's obvious this speech was written by a speech writer. For Melania to have said she wrote it, was in fact a lie.

So now the Trump campaign is backed into a corner. If they fire a speech writer for this, then it shows that in fact Melania lied. If they try to deny it, they look foolish. It's a no win situation.

Is a bigger deal being made out of it than should be? Yes. But that sounds no less follish than the position the other side is in.

It's a good point. I have not kept track of which side has said what but I trust your judgement on it.

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see? this man had to drop out of a damn race because of what he did.

but this? we can't even so much as hold her accountable and give an apology?


Nope... the press, the Obama administration and the Hillary campaign will obviously be held responsible for their despicable act of pointing out that this was indeed plagiarism.

Hillary wasn't held responsible for handling information classified above top secret on an unsecured, private server. She wasn't held responsible for having information on that server that she had absolutely no business having access to. She wasn't held responsible for deleting tens of thousands of emails in a specific way to make those emails unretrievable. I doubt she was going to be held responsible for pointing out the gross similarities between speeches given by first ladies.



Again I know you guys go on the attack because you can't post anything positive about Adolf Trump all for distraction purposes.


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There is one small difference in that Melania is not running for any public office. Here's something that I've alluded to before on here about running a business: a lot of people are bad at their jobs. Just finding someone who does what they are supposed to do, does a good job, and does it on time is very hard to find.


Michelle wasn't running for office and wrote her own speech. And I find it odd how you mention it's so hard to find someone who does a good job, and does it on time, but won't even bother to look up what our current first lady's core of accomplishments are. How hypocritical. Please do a little research before posting again. Thanks

I already responded to your post on this.

Again, enacting some government program to lower obesity does not do a whole lot for me. Don't get me wrong, I believe it is an important initiative and one that we as a society should value more than we do.

However, starting some program to lower obesity is not an accomplishment. Lowering obesity is an accomplishment. The difference is in the results. Do you understand? So far you have not even addressed that point at all.

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see? this man had to drop out of a damn race because of what he did.

but this? we can't even so much as hold her accountable and give an apology?


Nope... the press, the Obama administration and the Hillary campaign will obviously be held responsible for their despicable act of pointing out that this was indeed plagiarism.

Hillary wasn't held responsible for handling information classified above top secret on an unsecured, private server. She wasn't held responsible for having information on that server that she had absolutely no business having access to. She wasn't held responsible for deleting tens of thousands of emails in a specific way to make those emails unretrievable. I doubt she was going to be held responsible for pointing out the gross similarities between speeches given by first ladies.



Again I know you guys go on the attack because you can't post anything positive about Adolf Trump all for distraction purposes.

Your disparaging name is silly and has no basis in reality. Adolf Hitler is used as an example of an evil man due to the widespread genocide of peoples based on their race and religion. This has nothing to do with Donald Trump and your use of that name is childish at best.

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There is one small difference in that Melania is not running for any public office. Here's something that I've alluded to before on here about running a business: a lot of people are bad at their jobs. Just finding someone who does what they are supposed to do, does a good job, and does it on time is very hard to find.


Michelle wasn't running for office and wrote her own speech. And I find it odd how you mention it's so hard to find someone who does a good job, and does it on time, but won't even bother to look up what our current first lady's core of accomplishments are. How hypocritical. Please do a little research before posting again. Thanks

I already responded to your post on this.

Again, enacting some government program to lower obesity does not do a whole lot for me. Don't get me wrong, I believe it is an important initiative and one that we as a society should value more than we do.

However, starting some program to lower obesity is not an accomplishment. Lowering obesity is an accomplishment. The difference is in the results. Do you understand? So far you have not even addressed that point at all.


You didn't do any research to come up with that response. You are assuming. You don't know, because you don't even bother to research.


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I will say this; if Trump wins, his wife will be the best looking 1st Lady in US history.


She will also be the first 1st lady in US history to have her nude pictures on the internet.

It's not classy posing nude on camera. My mother has a name for woman like that....


Well come on, it's not like she was a porn star or something. She was a Model and frankly, a beautiful one. I mean BEAUTIFUL. Plenty of very well respected models have posed in various degrees of undress. Some of the best and most well known models have done so..

I don't hold that against her. It was her job.



Just because it was her job to take of her clothes does not mean it's not a trashy job. Posing nude is no difference then stripping imo.

I have a problem with Christians believing it's ok and turning a blind eye when taking off her clothes is immoral. I would not have married my wife if I knew she took off her clothes for a living.

Also people will call Michelle Obama, trashy, manly and "many" other derogatory names but call Trump classy.

Harvard and Princeton alum > model who takes her clotehs


you never heard (read) me say anything like that about Michelle Obama, she's an accomplished lawyer. Very professional, she takes care of herself physically and it appears she's raised two bright and beautiful daughters.


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Let's face it, it's obvious this speech was plagiarized. But here's where the problem is. It's obvious this speech was written by a speech writer. For Melania to have said she wrote it, was in fact a lie.

So now the Trump campaign is backed into a corner. If they fire a speech writer for this, then it shows that in fact Melania lied. If they try to deny it, they look foolish. It's a no win situation.

Is a bigger deal being made out of it than should be? Yes. But that sounds no less follish than the position the other side is in.

It's a good point. I have not kept track of which side has said what but I trust your judgement on it.


Not only is it a lie that the speech was written by a speechwriter, but several of the facts/accounts that she gave are more than likely false given how they were pulled from Michelle's speech.

The whole thing is a dumpster fire.

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I never mentioned Hitler tongue ...And you're so typical...attack me and my handle ...more right wing distraction. I know how you guys work.


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There is one small difference in that Melania is not running for any public office. Here's something that I've alluded to before on here about running a business: a lot of people are bad at their jobs. Just finding someone who does what they are supposed to do, does a good job, and does it on time is very hard to find.


Michelle wasn't running for office and wrote her own speech. And I find it odd how you mention it's so hard to find someone who does a good job, and does it on time, but won't even bother to look up what our current first lady's core of accomplishments are. How hypocritical. Please do a little research before posting again. Thanks


I'm not sure Michelle Obama wrote her own speech. In fact, if I were a betting man, I'd bet she didn't. Just as I'm sure Malania Trump didn't write that speech last night.


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anyway, I'm baffled as to why Rick Perry is at the RNC.

when somebody refers to Trump as "a cancer to conservatism" and then endorses him and makes a speech, even though he didn't mention Trump at all, it makes me wonder what the hell is going on with people's "values".


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There is one small difference in that Melania is not running for any public office. Here's something that I've alluded to before on here about running a business: a lot of people are bad at their jobs. Just finding someone who does what they are supposed to do, does a good job, and does it on time is very hard to find.


Michelle wasn't running for office and wrote her own speech. And I find it odd how you mention it's so hard to find someone who does a good job, and does it on time, but won't even bother to look up what our current first lady's core of accomplishments are. How hypocritical. Please do a little research before posting again. Thanks

I already responded to your post on this.

Again, enacting some government program to lower obesity does not do a whole lot for me. Don't get me wrong, I believe it is an important initiative and one that we as a society should value more than we do.

However, starting some program to lower obesity is not an accomplishment. Lowering obesity is an accomplishment. The difference is in the results. Do you understand? So far you have not even addressed that point at all.


You didn't do any research to come up with that response. You are assuming. You don't know, because you don't even bother to research.

You realize that this whole line of question about Michelle Obama started with me asking a question, right? It was a real, honest question because I was looking for more information. Why spin that around 360 degrees (that is meant as written) and make it look like a bad thing that I was looking for more info?

I pulled this up on Google just now.. happy?


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damn yall had a 3 percent increase in obesity?

Haus talk to your people, bro.


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Michelle wasn't running for office and wrote her own speech. And I find it odd how you mention it's so hard to find someone who does a good job, and does it on time, but won't even bother to look up what our current first lady's core of accomplishments are. How hypocritical. Please do a little research before posting again. Thanks


I'm not sure Michelle Obama wrote her own speech. In fact, if I were a betting man, I'd bet she didn't. Just as I'm sure Malania Trump didn't write that speech last night.



To be fair, she may have written it, on a piece of paper to help memorize it, but I seriously doubt she crafted it.


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I never mentioned Hitler tongue ...And you're so typical...attack me and my handle ...more right wing distraction. I know how you guys work.

You know that you are trying to connect the two people together with your persistent use of the name Adolf Trump. Play stupid all you want.. everybody knows what you are trying to do. Some people will even fall for it.

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damn yall had a 3 percent increase in obesity?

Haus talk to your people, bro.

I know. It's crazy. I do try to help people out with their workouts and diets. I care mostly about the basics. A lot of people do some really goofy things that really have no effect on their progress at all, but it's hard to sort through all the BS and know what matters and what doesn't unless you've been doing this a long time. But anyway...

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Not everyone knows what I'm trying to do. And I don't respect anybody that falls for Adolf Trump.


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damn yall had a 3 percent increase in obesity?

Haus talk to your people, bro.

I know. It's crazy. I do try to help people out with their workouts and diets. I care mostly about the basics. A lot of people do some really goofy things that really have no effect on their progress at all, but it's hard to sort through all the BS and know what matters and what doesn't unless you've been doing this a long time. But anyway...


How despicable of Michelle to claim she's done more than you about the issue right?


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Not everyone knows what I'm trying to do. And I don't respect anybody that falls for Adolf Trump.

I try not to judge people based on the candidate they support. For example, I do not respect Hillary, but I do not automatically lose respect for somebody just because they support her. People have different views based on their persona and life experiences. Others are more well-read into some issues than others. Reasonable people can have different views on many topics.

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Not everyone knows what I'm trying to do. And I don't respect anybody that falls for Adolf Trump.

I try not to judge people based on the candidate they support. For example, I do not respect Hillary, but I do not automatically lose respect for somebody just because they support her. People have different views based on their persona and life experiences. Others are more well-read into some issues than others. Reasonable people can have different views on many topics.

No way!!!! That is not possible! /sarcasm

I think a majority of my friends are liberal. We have some good debates but respect one another for the most part. I'm exhausted reading posts from the extremists on both sides.


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Lmfao I'm done.


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Michelle wasn't running for office and wrote her own speech. And I find it odd how you mention it's so hard to find someone who does a good job, and does it on time, but won't even bother to look up what our current first lady's core of accomplishments are. How hypocritical. Please do a little research before posting again. Thanks


I'm not sure Michelle Obama wrote her own speech. In fact, if I were a betting man, I'd bet she didn't. Just as I'm sure Malania Trump didn't write that speech last night.



To be fair, she may have written it, on a piece of paper to help memorize it, but I seriously doubt she crafted it.


I don't agree,, My guess is Obama may have given the speech writers a few ideas, but I'd bet you anything that a speech of that importance isn't left to amateurs...

The only person I can think of is recent history that did a speech off the cuff is Trump and every time he does he gets himself in trouble.

The one on Thursday will be written... if not, oh brother.


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And now the Twitter campaign has started. Good god these savages lmao



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Listen to the liberals squealing about something so dumb. #greasedpig


Those are echoes from the right.


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Nope, its the verbal diareah coming out of your mouth.


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she might as well had started the speech with "As a young black girl growing up in chicago..."


So, you're saying that Michelle plagiarized Steve Martin??





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Nope, its the verbal diareah coming out of your mouth.


Typical distraction from the right. Attack and insult everyone while you get the Adolf Trump tour back on tracks and up to full spin again. Good luck with that. rofl


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she might as well had started the speech with "As a young black girl growing up in chicago..."


So, you're saying that Michelle plagiarized Steve Martin??



I'm pretty sure that's where it's all going to go with the RNC. Michelle plagiarized her speech.


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You all are losing control. This is a microcosm of both sides and the problems in our country. Everyone has to be right regardless and will not budge in the slightest. Rather than compromise you just call names...

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Nope, its the verbal diareah coming out of your mouth.


Typical distraction from the right. Attack and insult everyone while you get the Adolf Trump tour back on tracks and up to full spin again. Good luck with that. rofl


Keep squealing dude, someone might decide its time for a pork dinner.


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Nope, its the verbal diareah coming out of your mouth.


Typical distraction from the right. Attack and insult everyone while you get the Adolf Trump tour back on tracks and up to full spin again. Good luck with that. rofl


Keep squealing dude, someone might decide its time for a pork dinner.


LOL under your skin.


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