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this system is similar to what he ran under Chud in which he had his great year, so he may not be on that big of a learning curve. Pryor, coleman and Gordon certainly adds a boat load of speed compared to what we had last year. I expect him to find a way to screw it up but i hope he can find a way to get it together.

Most likely scenerio he lights it up and then goes to another team. It would be the Browns thing to do lol.

which is why its a good thing he's allowed to be at TC and practice

I think if you check in this thread, there isn't anyone with hopes that are "up".

Myself, I'm not even sure we intend to keep him. We'll see.

U inferred all that yourself. You are laughing at your own rhetoric.

Meathead plays for one reason. Money. Money to party with. So if he does come back and if he does manage to keep clean for a season or two.... THEN what? Does ANYONE here want to resign him to a long term deal with guaranteed money? Anyone want to franchise him and guarantee him 15 million for a season? If you guys get your wish and he studs out, we STILL can't COUNT on him. EVER. The SECOND we do he will screw us. Period. So how do we condone cutting one of the young players we just drafted so meathead can come in for two more seasons(IF he keeps clean) just to leave in FA? Unless we are prepared to bet a huge pile of cash on the idiot that is exactly what will happen and that's if he stays clean which is HIGHLY unlikely.

I've seen you year after year fawn all over meat. Hell man he's in your sig graphic. So tell me, which of the WR's we just drafted do you want to cut?

J/C
I'm really conflicted about this. If he still has game and comes to work serious about getting his career on track, great. By the same token if he doesn't take care of his business, then cut ties quickly.

I am concerned about his presence on the team affecting the development of one or more of the rookie WRs.

I know I don't want him going somewhere else and balling out. His behavior has hurt this organization in the past. If any team deserves to get benefit from him being on their roster it's the Browns.

The vertical threat that he represents could make a huge difference for our new offense.

If he's no longer a play maker or he causes any type of distraction he's got to go.

It's a total crap shoot. Hopefully, for once the team gets it right either way it shakes out.

Re-check the thread bro, some think he'll come back and dominate. Myself, I'm not ruling out another "mishap" on his behalf from now until... tonight. He's a mistake in wait.

Sashi Brown makes statement on Browns WR Josh Gordon



Clevelandbrowns.com

Gordon was reinstated on a conditional basis by the NFL on Monday

Statement on Josh Gordon from Cleveland Browns EVP of Football Operations Sashi Brown

“With the league’s decision to afford Josh the opportunity to resume his career, he will be with us for the start of training camp. At that time, we will discuss directly with Josh the direction of our team, our expectations of our players and a plan to support him on and off the field.”

Gordon, who was reinstaed Monday by the NFL on a conditional basis, led the league with 1,646 yards receiving in 2013.

very matter of fact

This is the most I've posted on this board in about 2-3 years.. and even now I dont say a lot. I dont even consider myself a "regular" anymore. But I'll play along.. Yes, I'm a fan.. and Yes.. I root for all of our guys to succeed.. Yes.. he's in my sig, which i made about 2 years ago.

And to answer your question, I dont want to cut any of of the guys we drafted. IMO, it would be dumb if we did.

I would trade him if we could get a #1 pick from someone, his talent is worth that, otherwise keep him and hope he has overcome these problems and becomes the player we all saw in that abbreviated season ... JMHO

Okay, there's the first one. Now we simply wait for the other shoe to drop.

I don't think....I seem to recall they could have acted on this last Feb or there abouts, and delayed it 6 more months for undisclosed reason.

I think this is where the 4 games might come in to play.

j/c:

Not sure how I feel about this.

I'll only say that the last time we saw Josh in a Brown's uniform, he was far from dominant. Dropping passes, running poor routes, not selling out, forgetting plays. Our team actually played worse after he came back from his suspension.

Didn't he miss a scheduled drug test?

he's had so many suspensions and tribulations that i can't keep track anymore

I don't remember...possibly so. I just remember he wasn't reinstated at that time and it was pushed up to Aug. 1st.

Jim Brown: Josh Gordon 'ready to take responsibility'



The Cleveland Browns have yet to learn if Josh Gordon's indefinite suspension will be lifted in time for Week 1, but Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown believes the receiver is making progress.

"I've talked with Josh twice on the phone, and the last time I talked with him he sounded very motivated and I think he was in rehab and feeling good about it and discovering some things about himself," Brown, an advisor to the team, told Mary Kay Cabot of The Plain Dealer during a Browns Foundation golf outing Wednesday. "He really seemed ready to take responsibility for himself."

I never thought I'd see the day...

So now the FO shouldn't keep Home Grown Pro Bowl talent?

Most teams carry 6 WRs. Which veteran receivers do you think we have that are that necessary to keep? The undersized over 30 receiver with a history of concussions, the undersized former UDFA who seemed to regress last season, the unproven former QB, or some other?

I think they are more likely to go than the rookies.

You call him meathead like that's something special, but I think you could apply that to a lot of NFL players. Most just know when they are going to get tested.

I'm not expecting a lot from Gordon, but your vehemence against him seems excessive.

Our roster is not that great. I don't think we have 53 players who are above average. The bottom of rosters often get turned over during the course of a season. Who do you think keeping Gordon is going to make us lose?

When he's on the field, defenses have to account for him. We could use all the players that fit that category that we can get.

Hopefully the NFL's marijuana policy will change soon, as there seems to be increasing support for that both within the league and the country at large, and then Gordon will be fine.

I wanted to say that Gordon will be able to participate in TC and preseason this year, and that will make all the difference... but now that I think about it, I think he participated in TC that year as well (the Hoyer year). Or maybe it was the year before that...

Oh vey...

Best case scenario I can see is that he teaches Pryor how to tap into those God-given abilities before he gets suspended again. Then we cut the guy loose and Pryor can take the reins from there.

JC

I wouldn't count on the next CBA to legalize weed for the players in anyway. From what I've heard from the negotiations of yesteryears that A) the drug test is easy to beat and anyone who doesn't is a moron and B) the NFL owners will want to trade HGH testing for it.

HGH testing is something that I can't see the players agreeing to

....doesn't the NFL already "test" for HGH?

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Exactly why the NFL might try to increase testing there. But maybe the NFLPA is just so pissed at Goodell's dictatorship that they flip the table on everything discipline related. Should be fun.

i meant to test more strictly. my bad

I hope that Josh Gordon's return is a successful one, and that he has rehabilitated himself.

Only actions demonstrate commitment.

Well. I'ts total BULL that he's suspended the FIRST four games, because when the Brown's average 3.5 wins a season, the first 4 games are the only time they are still in contention.

Someone said, " which of the rookies do you want to cut.

Well they drafted Corey Coleman in the first 100 picks, so not him.


If Cody Kessler can be the next Russell Wilson, then we can watch a team with a future.

Now even more of a reason to have Terrelle Pryor line up at the Tight End position.
I already know he can block, know he can make plays with the ball in his hands, and know he's a mismatch for Linebackers / safeties, / undersised nickel backs, 1 on 1 vs any of those.

Josh had a great year in 2013... It's 2016 and he has missed a lot of football..

Join the competition and earn your spot on the roster..

Keep expectations low......or non existent in fact. Then you won't get disappointed and any Gordon accomplishment or production is a nice free bonus. If he succeeds great, if he falls flat on his face, then you have little to no investment of this cat destroying your Christmas dreams again.

Josh Gordon and Johnny Manziel still hanging out together


Posted by Darin Gantt on July 25, 2016, 3:12 PM EDT

At any other time, Josh Gordon and Johnny Manziel turning up in the same place might not necessarily have been newsworthy.

But today, yeah, today it looks unusual.

Hours before he was being conditionally reinstated by the NFL after his own substance abuse suspension, Gordon turned up in social media video with Manziel who just came upon a suspension of his own.

Via TMZ, the video shows the two of them hanging around with puppies, playing video games and otherwise occupying themselves in a wholesome manner.

That’s a good thing for Gordon, who doesn’t need any trouble of his own now that the door to his return has finally been opened. As for Manziel, he’s reportedly trying to get himself in any kind of shape to try a comeback, so maybe Gordon’s the good influence he needs.

(Roll that around in your head for a second.)

Of course, Manziel has yet to prove himself able to stay on the straight and narrow long enough to be considered a good influence, so Gordon might be better off to hang out with his teammates, and people who are focused on being football players.
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so dumb

You got that right! Neither can I.

j/c:

Even if the Browns' FO wanted desperately to get rid of Gordon via a trade right now, the market is essentially zero. Or at least I'd imagine it to be. No team should be willing to give up anything substantive for Gordon right now. Why would they? And IMO, getting something like a 7th rounder for Gordon is not as valuable as seeing if the guy can be productive on the field again. We saw what he was able to do with crappy QB play in 2013. And I don't think you just outright cut him either...for that same reason.

Furthermore, the trade deadline in the NFL is what?... Week 6 or something? Even then, a few games for Gordon to play probably wouldn't do much to increase his trade value. And even if he does play to form and teams start calling, then do the Browns like that upward trajectory to even let him go?

"Stuck" is not the word I would use to describe this situation but I think the Browns hold on to Gordon and see where he is physically and mentally.

How many seasons has he played in in correlation to how many games he's actually been able to play?

Stop with the talent crap. It's crap. I'm sick of it. Yes he's a freak, a bloody physical specimen that is monstrous. The one muscle he doesn't exercise is his brain, which ultimately - is the only bloody muscle that matters.

But don't mind me. Go on. Get your hopes, faith, trust and etc up. My emotions won't be crashing and burning when he lets us down again, that's for sure!

Is there a "no-mercy rule" in the NFL? If he blows it again (pun intended) can we just drive a stake through his career and move on? I hope he makes it. I hope we also have had a nonsense bypass for this kind of crap. Good luck or good riddance.

I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Do the same rules apply for someone taken in the supplemental draft? I'm assuming so but I didn't see anything specific to those situations.