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Sports TV 101:

A: filter out background noise so interviews/commentators can be heard. I couldn't hear a thing Andrew Berry was saying and Zagura's mic keeps going in and out.

B: Show the action on the field...don't focus on the talking heads sitting in lawn chairs, watching the big screen with kids walking behind them while the game is going on in the distance.

Somehow most of the above seems ignored...

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my stream is like choppy


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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and who the heck is parks lol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Ya mine also. Almost couldn't watch.


The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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my stream is like choppy


Don't worry...you didn't miss much. It seems like it was filmed and produced by a high school kid doing a summer project for his/her Broadcsting class.

Also, it was touch so no tackling.

That said, I am loving Pryor's development . Pretty sure he has secured a spot on the team. I am also enjoying the Payton/Higgins competition...I'd love to have both on the team.

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Originally Posted By: lampdogg
There are some who believe that post-snap reading of a defence is something difficult to develop. Has to be innate, in most cases.


RG3 better hope its not innate.

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The first play of the Hue/Robert's career, deep bomb to Pryor came from a formation shift, similar to what we saw from his time with the Bengals.
In fact it was almost the exact reverse of the shift previewed earlier in this thread....

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2015 Week 1
1st Play: 12 Personnel

Power I

Shift to

Empty Spread


From the little we've seen of the Browns offense, I think its more then fair to look at the Bengal's offensive concepts as building blocks for the Browns.

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There are some who believe that post-snap reading of a defence is something difficult to develop. Has to be innate, in most cases.


RG3 better hope its not innate.


As many hits he took in preseason, he better learn quick. And teams weren't even scheming/diving into their playbook.

RGIII looks so skinny too, it hurts me almost watching him get clobbered. If the line and the line checks and etc continue like in preseason, RGIII will be injured by game three.

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There are some who believe that post-snap reading of a defence is something difficult to develop. Has to be innate, in most cases.


RG3 better hope its not innate.


As many hits he took in preseason, he better learn quick. And teams weren't even scheming/diving into their playbook.

RGIII looks so skinny too, it hurts me almost watching him get clobbered. If the line and the line checks and etc continue like in preseason, RGIII will be injured by game three.


The few plays I saw (from the video that showed/reviewed his 8 passes), RT & Center are very clearly a problem and RG3 is going to need his wheels a LOT this season if he is going to survive it.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Good explanation on RPOs/packaged plays. Expect to see a lot of this with Griffin.

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I would probably let RG3 play into the 3rd this week. RG3 has gotta develop chemistry with his receivers and this line needs to learn to play together. I also want to see some of these rookie receiversget some reps with first team also.

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I'd play RG3 as much as possible too, but never behind anything but the 1st team OL. Thus, I still think we see him exit before the half


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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He will probably play the first half this week.

More thoughts on RGIII and Hue.

I think Hue is--and will protect RGIII by having him make just one read. That was certainly the case in game one.

That's good, because as I have said before, RGIII struggles w/reading coverages and going through his progressions. He makes bad decisions at times, but typically holds the ball way too long and takes a lot of sacks.

On the other hand, that will probably only work for a 2-3 games. Teams will recognize and adjust their game plans. The bottom line is that in order to have long-term success, the guy is going to have to improve a lot in regards to going through his progressions.

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He'll have multiple reads, and based on coverage, he'll make a decision on which WR to go to.


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What would you know about that?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
What would you know about that?


Thats called Football.


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Yeah........except that is the part of the game he has always struggled with.

And let me ask you, Mr. Football...........why in the world would 31 other teams pass on the former overall number 2 pick in the draft? The Jets were reportedly the only other team to speak w/him.


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Yeah........except that is the part of the game he has always struggled with.

And let me ask you, Mr. Football...........why in the world would 31 other teams pass on the former overall number 2 pick in the draft? The Jets were reportedly the only other team to speak w/him.



And of those 31 teams, how many of those had starting QB's in place?


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You didn't answer the question. If he is so good at reading defenses and coverages and going through his progressions, why would NO other team want him?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
You didn't answer the question. If he is so good at reading defenses and coverages and going through his progressions, why would NO other team want him?


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Nice answer. You were talking out of your butt, just as I suspected.

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He is good at going through his reads Vers, but he has a habit of staring down his man too.

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No, he is not good at going through his progressions. That has been a consistent problem.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Good explanation on RPOs/packaged plays. Expect to see a lot of this with Griffin.


Sorry, I never posted the link for this.

http://smartfootball.com/offense/dak-pre...aged-play-reads

The play that is broken down in the above link is the exact same play that we ran on Kessler's touchdown pass.

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Good explanation on RPOs/packaged plays. Expect to see a lot of this with Griffin.


Sorry, I never posted the link for this.

http://smartfootball.com/offense/dak-pre...aged-play-reads

The play that is broken down in the above link is the exact same play that we ran on Kessler's touchdown pass.


Thanks ... I enjoy these types of breakdowns


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Yeah........except that is the part of the game he has always struggled with.

And let me ask you, Mr. Football...........why in the world would 31 other teams pass on the former overall number 2 pick in the draft? The Jets were reportedly the only other team to speak w/him.



And of those 31 teams, how many of those had starting QB's in place?


It's something less than 31. And I'm sure that not all of the ones with starting QBs in place are not looking to upgrade.

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Yeah........except that is the part of the game he has always struggled with.

And let me ask you, Mr. Football...........why in the world would 31 other teams pass on the former overall number 2 pick in the draft? The Jets were reportedly the only other team to speak w/him.



And of those 31 teams, how many of those had starting QB's in place?


It's something less than 31. And I'm sure that not all of the ones with starting QBs in place are not looking to upgrade.


And RG3 would not sign with a team where he doesnt have an opportunity to start..

If I need to go through each NFL team, I will. but there is really no point. He's a Brown. And I'm happy he's a Brown.


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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk

And RG3 would not sign with a team where he doesnt have an opportunity to start..


That says it all, right there. Even factoring in teams that are completely unsettled at QB and are still looking to upgrade, the Browns was the only place he could get a legit opportunity to start.


I still maintain my tinfoil-hat theory that we cut a deal we'd sign RG3, but only if we get Gordon back. The league needed RG3 to land somewhere because the league likes its players that the media loves to talk about - and the media loves to talk about RG3. It's just good marketing.


Browns is the Browns

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Bills - Tyrod Taylor (no chance at starting)
Dolphins - Ryan Tannehil (maybe, but wouldnt be Week 1)
Patriots - Tom Brady (no chance at starting)
Jets - Ryan Fitzpatrick (no chance at starting)

Ravens - Joe Flacco (no chance at starting)
Bengals - Andy Dalton (no chance at starting)
Browns - Old Avg McCown
Steelers - Ben Roeth (no chance at starting)

Texans - Brock Osweiler (could compete, but too much to rish competition paying Brock that much money)
Colts - Andrew Luck (no chance at starting)
Jags - Blake Bortles (no chance at starting)
Titans - Mariotta (no chance at starting)

Broncos - Good Shot at starting; Elway is finicky, not a good fit
Chiefs - Alex Smith - Slight chance, but definitely not Week 1.
Raiders - Derek Carr- (no chance at starting)
Chargers - Philip Rivers - (no chance at starting)

Cowboys - Tony Romo (no chance at starting)
Giants - Eli Manning (no chance at starting)
Eagles - Sam Bradford ; Team gave it all to draft QB at #2 - (no chance at starting)
Redskins - Kirk Cousins; Do I need an explanation?

Bears - Jay Cutler - (no chance at starting); eventhough Cutler is a has been
Lions - Matthew Stafford - (no chance at starting)
Packers - Aaron Rodgers - (no chance at starting)
Vikings - Teddy Bridgewater - (no chance at starting)

Falcons - Matt Ryan - (no chance at starting)
Panthers - Cam Newton - (no chance at starting)
Saints - Drew Brees - (no chance at starting)
Bucs - Jameis Winston - (no chance at starting)

Cardinals - Carson Palmer - (no chance at starting)
Rams - Traded up to get #1 pick for Goff- (no chance at starting)
49ers - Gabbert/Kaepernick - Chance at starting, maybe even Week 1. But who wants to play for Chip kelly after hearing negative stuff from past players
Seahawks - Russell Wilson - (no chance at starting)

I count:

49ers, Broncos, and Browns as the only opportunity RG3 had to start Week 1.

Colin Kaepernick , a different QB, had essentially the same options. No one else would have gave him a chance either. Players don't go places to sit on the bench. They look for opportunities to play now, especially those with significant starting experience.


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Yeah but Griffin signed with the Browns before the Rams or Eagles traded up, right?

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How does this prove that RGIII is good at going through his progressions or that he is good at all?

Heck, when you say "no chance of starting," it actually undermines your argument.

You get that, right?

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Yeah but Griffin signed with the Browns before the Rams or Eagles traded up, right?


The Jets also hadn't signed Fitzpatrick.

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Point is (again).. options were limiting for him starting. He didnt have 32 options.


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Okay...........let's say that Andrew Luck hits the market. According to your genius theory, Luck would go unclaimed because all the teams have starting quarterbacks.

Genius..........pure genius!!!

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Right now Hugh is showing us looks we saw from him in Cinci.

I'm excited to see where his creativity will lead this offense going forward.

I would love to see a commitment to spread zone read based attack, ala Seattle.

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Excellent article. Thank you for posting that.

I think Cosell is a true student of the game. He is very football intelligent and I almost always agree w/his takes.

That was a great read. Thanks again!

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