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Yep, their career catches and rushing yards are astounding. The rest of the NFL is shaking in their cleats.

Insider Buzz: CLE Trying to Keep Gordon Focused; Drawing Comparisons to Megatron

video link

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26564...ons-to-megatron

thought you might have a comment on that...but it's my opinion so I am happy and excited to see if they live up to their potential. now the other side is we suck I know, I know

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-terrelle-pryor-has-huge-day-with-browns-catches-75-yard-td/

3 TD's from Pyor on that link...looks good to me...I'll take the mismatch any day of the week especially on Sundays...maybe it's just me

Josh Gordon inches closer to practice, needs to lose weight

Pat McManamonESPN Staff Writer

BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns' lineup started to fall into place Monday.

Robert Griffin III was named the starting quarterback, and cornerback Joe Haden practiced for the first time since having ankle surgery March 18.

The next step: Get reinstated wide receiver Josh Gordon on the field.

When might that happen? Hopefully soon, coach Hue Jackson said.

"I think he's getting closer each and every day," Jackson said.

When he does, though, Gordon will need to lose weight.

His college coach Art Briles noticed it last week when he visited Cleveland Browns training camp, and his coach with the Browns acknowledges it.

"He'll be the first to tell you that," Jackson said. "He does, and we're working through that process too."

Numbers on pounds or kilograms were not provided, but Gordon clearly is not where Jackson wants him. It's not a reason for alarm, merely a reality.

Gordon was suspended all of the 2015 season and most of the offseason. The NFL reinstated him on July 25 but also suspended him for the first four games of the 2016 season.

That left Jackson with a delicate balancing act between getting Gordon ready to play and realizing he would not be on the field the first four games.

Gordon further complicated his return by reporting with a quad injury that the team said would sideline him for the first two or more weeks of camp. The Browns are in their second full wee of practice.

Jackson, however, said he thought the quad injury would be good for Gordon in that it would help him settle back in with the team.

"He's making sure he's staying in it the best he can," Jackson said. "Because I think when he walks back out there I think he has something to prove, too. It's good to have a guy with a chip on his shoulder."

I'm starting to get tired of the bitching on here. Some of you are so defeatist you'd be the last guy I could count on when the chips are down.

I think that this team, as it is constructed right this moment, will need a real difference maker at QB if they are going to win games.

I just don't see McCown as being that guy.

I do respect the beating he took last year, and the way he handled himself last year, however ..... despite the fact that he played fairly well ..... he still went 1-7 in his 8 starts. He played in a way that led to him taking a lot of hits, and I think that we can both agree that he was slow in processing things in the pocket last year. He started the year being injured on the 1st drive of the 1st year ...... and had injuries to his hand, ribs, ankle, shoulder, before ending the year on IR with a broken clavicle.

I do not see McCown as being a difference in this team winning or losing. If RG3 were to be injured, I suspect that Kessler will be the guy to replace him. I believe that our priority is developing young players this year. Do we also want to win? Of course. However, if it comes down to playing McCown, or playing Kessler, and developing him, well, I think that the nod goes to Kessler. McCown could easily be the 3rd QB on this team by the time all is said and done.

We'll see what happens.

Based on early progress and improvement with Pryor ... And my continued buy in with what I've seen from Jackson, more than anything else so far that being a strong, confident leader who spells out expectations ..... I believe Gordon will play again and play well for the Browns. Whether that' will take till week 8 or 10 or 12 I don't know. But I fully believe it will happen.

Small sample size, and certainly some optimism in there too.

Yup. And a lot of our IFs have to hit in order for us to get 5 wins.

You and me both Brother. Makes George Jones look like a real Inspirational speaker. I can't imagine growing up in a home like that.

Well, I suppose it's a good thing that we're just Keyboard Jockeys discussing a perpetually bad football organization on an internet message board and not holed up in the Alamo

haha true enough.

I agree, the sense I got from Hue in his first presser was that he seemed like a guy who could take a guy off to the side during practice or a game, put a hand on his shoulder and know exactly what to say to flick the right switch in the guy's head to get all out of him he could.

Speak for yourself. I am holed-up in the Alamo.

yeah, the impression i get that is in stark contrast between pettine/shurmer etc vs Hue is this doesn't seem to overwhelm him at all, he seems to know exactly what he wants and he knows along with the complete staff what they feel they need to do to get to that point. I think for the first time coaching will be the least of our worries

early indications are that Hue is running a very efficient, physical, fair training camp. just the way he carries himself, speaks to the media, etc makes me believe he'll be a good coach for us ... and his style is just what this franchise needs IMO

IMO, I think players go outta their way to talk up Hue. They don't give the usual jazz regarding him. All indications point to there is an ample amount of respect between coach and players and players and coach.

When a player says they've bought in, I actually believe them. We'll see where this gets us though. If he'd strings together winning seasons, coach Hue will be deemed a God here. He'll never have to pay for his meals, drinks or anything lol.

Well, if we win more than 5 games this year color me VERY impressed ... that would be a borderline miracle lol

j/c:

It always begins this way. We'll see what you guys are saying in two years. LOL

There is no doubt based on factual evidence that the odds are greatly in your favor.

Josh Gordon needs to shed a few pounds, is close to practicing and agent says 'it's one day at a time'

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/josh_gordon_needs_to_shed_a_po.html

(Sometimes you just need the headline ...)

P.S. Hopefully he won't get caught tokin' it up again this season.

^^^ Click the link and watch the video. He's really haulin' in some passes from RGIII.

Weed increases your metabolism, and if you can smoke off the munchies, you can lose weight pretty quickly. #legalizeitnfl

I wouldn't call that haulin' in.. lol.

+1

Josh will stay clean long enough to secure a guaranteed contract for big bucks then test positive. Sure hope they change the rules with pot before he has that chance to screw the Brown's over once again.

Question though. If that were to happen - he signs a big contract but gets suspended, he doesn't get paid, does he? And I'd have to think if he tests positive again, it would be a long term suspension - like life, right?

Or am I way wrong?

I was thinking this is probably his last chance.

J/C

I may be wrong, but I think we "own" his rights this year and next year. Then, we could always slap a tag on him for 1-2 more.

We really aren't looking at giving him big bucks (given that he stays clean and produces)

It's complicated. He wouldn't be paid his salary during any suspension. As far as signing bonus money, I think the team can generally go after some of it. There is some precedent there that I can't recall off the top of my head, but I think it's fair to say that the team would structure any future long-term deal in such a way that they would be largely protected from Josh reverting back to old ways.

If he got suspended again due to failing a drug test, it would most likely be the same thing: banished from the league with the opportunity to apply for reinstatement after a year. How that would play out would be anyone's guess.

These both sum it up pretty well.

Last year did not count at all, nor the year before. We still own him and his rights for a while AND ANY contract he gets will not only have a TON of disclaimers in it for drugs, the fact still applies that if he is ever suspended again, he is gone for good. Permanent. In which case, he costs us nothing.

Basically, if he performs - we can safely reward him with a nice contract and not worry one bit because if he screw up, that contract will have been written in a way to let us reclaim every last penny and after the way the league has bent over to let him back in the NFLPA won't bat an eye at it.

You know he doesn't get paid if he is suspended, right?

You know he would already have his signing bonus right? But who cares if he gets paid? As long as he is a Brown he can get suspended 100 times and he'll still be considered the greatest ever, right? LMAO

Injured, overweight, out of shape and liable to get suspended at any moment.... HOF for sure! Lets COUNT on him. Lets shower him in money. I can't wait for us to cut one of our young draft picks so meathead has a roster spot. He's Megatron and Jerry Rice rolled into one big fat.... meathead. *snicker*

Except we will once again have a BIG FAT hole in our roster at WR. You do know we will have to CUT a player to keep this idiot right?
A player that busted his ass to improve and make the team will hit the streets so fatboy has a spot. Woo hoo.

Also, while we might not have to pay his salary, to sign this dope it will likely take a BIG signing bonus. Or we could fracnhise him. What's the going FT on a WR? 15 million or more? ALL guaranteed.

Go ahead, COUNT on meathead. Bet the farm on him. Shower him with millions of reasons to screw up. That can only work out well for the TEAM. You know the guys that show up every day and DON'T screw up at every turn..... We are SAVED meathead is back. LMAO

Who is saying to COUNT on him? Who is saying to "shower him with money"?

Teams can't recoup money if a player breaks the contract?

(They can.)

what big hole? we have Coleman, Pryor, Hawkins, Higgans, Louis, Payton, Gabreal, Jennings. What BIG HOLE are you referring too? I for one am counting on him to get it together and help this team this year and hopefully years to come.

This big hole:

If 7 guys can't fill the void of one, the one isn't the problem.

One of us is misunderstanding the other.

I was responding to another poster. I believe that he was saying that there is a lot of talent at the WR position. I'm saying that the group is not very good.

I was agreeing with that, completely, but also pointing out that if none of those seven can fill the one spot vacated by one guy, then that one guy isn't part of the problem.... looking back up at previous posts this much later and I'm not sure what exactly what I was responding too, except the stream of consciousness going on in my head at the time, lol