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No big deal, we all slip up sometimes.

LOL...............except you, of course.

Joe Thomas seems comfy with Pasztor.
that's good enough for me.

I would guess that it's because they want Erving safely nestled in between 2 established starters, in Bitonio and Greco.

Pretty good point.

jc:


https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/status/763463469328891904

This guy has been away from the team for over a week with no details. I wonder what the deal is....

strange for hughes to still be gone. hope it's nothing life threatening. he doesn't seem like the type of guy to skip

I'll bet $10 that the Browns finish better than the Eagles. I don't think we have a good team. I just think we have a team better than the Eagles. I know the Browns are getting crapped on by everyone, and rightfully so, our defense is gonna be horrible. But I think our offense might be able to keep us in games this year. It helps that we play the NFC East this year.

Hope you're right CHS

Either way we'll end up with the first pick and our next Franchise QB B)

You said there was "no way" that the Eagles would have a better record than the Browns. They may. They may not. I am disputing your "no way" claim.

Thus, you need to give me odds. 10 to 1 is more than fair.

Really?

Ball up. Straight up.😁

He said........."No way..." If there isn't a way, then he should have no issues w/giving me odds.

If there is a way, he should retract that ridiculous statement.

Often this kind of thing seems to be an illness or injury within the family.

Any word on who will start at WR against Green Bay? With Coleman and Hawk out it my guess would be Pryor and Gabriel

Would not surprise me if a couple of the rooks see time at WR with the ones.

I'll give you 1-10 odds. Put me down for $10.

quick projection. Browns lose opener to Eagles, lose 5 of 6 in the division, split with Baltimore.
It'd be real hard to bet the Browns to have a "better" record than any other NFL team this year.
I just want to see them develop by the end of the year, to become a contender.
Reachable goals,
1 Hold losing streaks to 3 games,(ok 4) games or less.
2, score 2 td's in one half, every (any given Sunday).
3, Have the defense hold the opponent to a less than that teams average offensive day
4. Stop the other team on their 1st try to put the game away when the game rolls into that late 3rd,/ early 4th quarter, and both sides get serious. (emphasis on 1st try)
5. win the battle for last score right before halftime. Reachable goals.

Deal.

But, I was hoping it would be w/CHS. I only made that point to demonstrate how absurd his comment was.

You did read the odds correctly....yes?

Yes, but apparently you didn't read correctly.

Browns Training Camp 2016: Day 11 Clips and Quips



A rainy day of camp for the Browns

By Joe Ginley @JoeGinley Aug 10, 2016, 11:38p


Mother Nature threw another wrench in the Browns’ plans on Wednesday, as lightning, rain, and humidity wreaked havoc on Day 11 of Browns’ training camp.


The Browns seemed to have a solid day of practice, according to media reports, though Terrelle Pryor left early due to a minor calf aggravation.


Head coach Hue Jackson ruled out wideouts Andrew Hawkins and Corey Coleman due to hamstring issues that have kept the two out of practice the last few days. On the plus side, that might give the club a chance to look at the wideouts deeper on the depth chart. More on that below.


As per usual, Jackson’s comments appear first, followed by the players’ thoughts. Jackson’s full presser is here, the player transcripts are here.


Hue Jackson

After lightning moved practice indoors, Jackson felt cramped inside. But the quick changes in venue might have helped the team, in Jackson’s estimation.

“It just didn’t feel right. The ball kept hitting the net. It was loud. You hear all these different voices and everything. I’m like, ‘Oh, my gosh. Can we go back outside?’ (laughter) I thought we needed to get back outside, which was good. Again, I kind of like that sometimes when things are not going as well – it wasn’t the practice; it was just us being inside – and having to switch and all of a sudden refocus and go do it again because that’s just the way football is sometimes. Sometimes, it’s just not there and you have to go find it. Our guys, it was muddy and water puddles and wet balls and the whole nine yards so I kind of like it like that when it’s hard because football is hard.”
As mentioned above, the Browns have several wideouts sidelined due to injury.Fortunately, all of the issues are minor.

“Hawk definitely won’t play and Corey won’t play either. Those guys, we’re going to make sure that they’re exactly where they need to be. I think Terrelle will be fine. He was practicing and I made a decision to take him out. He wanted to stay out there. My job is to make sure that our players are OK, but I think he’ll be fine, till the doctors tell me so will I really know. We’re going to put a team out there that’s going to go out there and play hard and execute our offense and defense and special teams.”

Some in the media, Tony Grossi in particular, have criticized Isaiah Crowell for dropping passes out of the backfield. Jackson agreed the critiques are justified.

“Anybody who is dropping a pass – Isaiah or receivers, tight ends, anybody – we need to get that better. Our goal is to keep the ball off the ground and catch every ball that’s thrown and be very accurate with the ball. I hope that it’s the elements. We have to learn how to catch a wet ball and how to throw a wet ball because that’s just part of it, too. It’s something that I have to make sure as a team that we take care of. We don’t want to drop any balls. All of our players need to continue to get better catching the ball.”

Browns’ journeyman defensive lineman Nick Hayden received words of praise from Jackson today. Jackson recalled Hayden’s time in Cincinnati.

“I remember he was a fierce competitor. He liked to play the game. He was tough. He worked hard, and he was one of our final cuts. I kind of knew who he was when he came to work out so I kind of had a memory of what he did when he was there. That guy has worked extremely hard, and I think football is very important to him.”

Before calling Seth DeValve a “tremendous athlete if he’s healthy,” Jackson talked about tight end Connor Hamlett. The youngster still has a ways to go, but Jackson seems to like him.

“Obviously, he’s made some plays. He’s made some plays catching the ball. He’s very accountable, knows what to do. I also think that he knows he needs to continue to get better. He’s a big tall guy so he has to block some of these strong smaller guys at times. That’s an area he has to continue to get better at. He’s working at it, and I give him a lot of credit for his tenacity and how he stays after it so he has a chance. Again, we need to see a lot of these things show up versus an opponent as we move forward.”

Jackson spoke about another young player, Jordan Poyer, today during his presser.Poyer has earned time with the first team at safety, as Jackson affirmed.

“He’s a returning player. He has had some good moments here, but the consistency of every guy back there needs to improve. I’ve told them all that. Our goal is to make sure nobody catches the ball. That’s his job. He’s the center fielder back there. If the ball is thrown down the middle, he has got to be back there to make a play and has got to make great tackles. That’s what we’re asking everybody on defense to do. We have an expectation. We’ve got to get our guys up to that level. Not that they’re not, but again, we’ve done certain things out there in practice, but we’ll find out a little bit more about our guys come Friday.”

As a final note, Jackson did not divulge any information about playing time during Friday’s scrimmage against Green Bay, though weather will not have an impact, Jackson says.

TE Seth DeValve

Suffering a hamstring injury in mini-camp, DeValve has watched from the sidelines during training camp, taking it all in. The Yale grad has prepared mentally, but the rest of camp will be a grind physically. In an ideal world, DeValve wants to be a physical, but also versatile, type of player.

“I’m very much a hybrid TE-WR in my own mind, one who is able to block and is big enough and strong enough to block but really my training up to this point in my career and what I feel I’m best at is route running. That being said, I can be used in different areas to create different mismatch opportunities. Really being strong and fast and mobile for my size is what I feel I bring to the table.”

DL Nick Hayden

Calling himself “relentless,” Hayden talked about his experience as a defensive tackle in a 4-3. In the Browns’ new system, Hayden projects as a 3-4 defensive end. Hayden doesn’t see the transition as a problem.

“This is something new for me and it’s been great. As an older veteran, it’s always fun to learn something new as the years go on so it’s been great learning it so far. Guys have been great and helpful. It’s been fun [...] It’s pretty much the same. It’s a lot more, maybe more two-gapping in a 3-4 then a 4-3. There are more gaps secured in a 4-3, but it’s pretty much the same carry over. More read technique in a 3-4 I would have to say, but mostly everything is just football.”

Emmanuel Ogbah

The Browns’ rookie out of Oklahoma State has flipped positions several times this training camp, switching between defensive line and linebacker. According to Ogbah, he’ll play both spots on Friday.

“I spend most of my time with the D-line, but I still look at the outside linebacker plays and all that. I still go through it [...] It’s definitely challenging because you have to know a bunch of plays. You have to know different positons. I actually like that. It makes me more flexible. I’ll be able to do whatever the coaches ask me to do.”

S Jordan Poyer

Viewed as a starter at safety following the departure of Tashaun Gipson and Donte Whitner, Poyer has enjoyed a nice camp. That doesn’t mean he’s taking a starting job for granted.

“Obviously, the situation being in right now, I want to take hold of it and grasp it and do everything possible I can with it. That being said, I’ve been preparing like a starter. It’s earned. It’s not given. I definitely want to earn that position.”

That’s it for today, folks. The Browns have tomorrow off before playing against the Packers on Friday. Stay tuned to DBN for more coverage of the Browns’ training camp.

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/8/...lips-and-quips

So, they're off today and just traveling IIRC

Earlier you wanted 10:1 odds. He is giving you 1:10.

Those aren't the same thing, at least as I see it. Sorry...I was only trying to help.

Peen..........my discussion was w/another poster, not OldDawg. Jesus. Just mind your own business and we'll both be better off.

I will enjoy taking your $100.

I doubt that he caught it.

He wanted 10-1, I offered 1-10... he's not as quick as he thinks.

I asked this question a week or two ago, as to whether they'd try this. I like the idea and hope it works out. If it doesn't, it spells the end for him here.

I think the fact that they are moving him kinda seals his fate.
I believe this is his contract year?He may very well be more suited as 4-3 Will.He's a chase LB with better than avg.speed.

When teams start trying to switch positions to "fit" you ... that usually isn't a good sign

I think it helps Mingo to retain a spot. He can be the backup inside guy, he can be a backup outside guy, you can disguise a lot of your scheme with himin the lineup.

Ask him if he's got 2 twenties for a ten.

You're wanting to gamble online on a site that prohibits gambling (I'm not actually sure about this. I haven't read the rules in a minute.), so as the book keeper, I'm going through a lot of risk to do this. So I insist on even money.

Then..........I insist that you change your claim that there is "no way" that the Eagles have better record than the Browns.......which has been my intent all along.

Yeah, but again, you're making me put in a lot of work for a claim, that's not any more wild than what anyone says here on a given day. so I insist on even money. Funny thing is though, I didn't expect you to bet against the Browns in the first place. Stop being so negative. Be part of the solution. Not part of the problem!

Betting against the Browns has never been a problem.

Sorry you feel that way my friend. I was trying to have your back and give you a out.

You getting to any games this year?

No, I won't be going to any games this year. Gave the season tickets up a couple of years ago.

How many are you going to?

Planning on 6....it may turn in to 5 if things go totally south.....but probably 6 even if...I like a few restaurants up there.

I have a victory meal even if we don't win.

Enjoy!