Europe definitely is part of a problem. A big chuck. Just like the people themselves are part of the problem.
You think it's over simplifications but it's the truth. How can you successful integrate people if you have them segregated innthenfirst place.
You see that very example right here in America. Look what segregation did to race relations in this country.
You're example of Greece is off. They aren't content with Greece because Greece has no employment opportunities.
Have you not been paying attention to the Greek bailouts? Like bro, you make these statements, and I'm just wondering if you just had a brain fart and forget these other issues are going on in Europe at the same time. Major issues.
Greek got bailed out three times or something like this. Before the refugee crisis. If I'm a refugee I'm not stopping in Greece either. Neither would you.
Your last statement I dunno how to take that. What do you mean you're biased? Are you more American than me or something? What does even mean?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Back from a busy day and finally got to read thru this thread.
First of all, If Trump wanted someone to kill Hillary, he would have said, "Someone should kill that crook." He has never been one to mince words.
Second, I think we should end ALL immigration to America until such time as we have reasonably absorb the 12 million illegals we have already taken in.
Europe definitely is part of a problem. A big chuck. Just like the people themselves are part of the problem.
You think it's over simplifications but it's the truth. How can you successful integrate people if you have them segregated innthenfirst place.
You see that very example right here in America. Look what segregation did to race relations in this country.
You're example of Greece is off. They aren't content with Greece because Greece has no employment opportunities.
Have you not been paying attention to the Greek bailouts? Like bro, you make these statements, and I'm just wondering if you just had a brain fart and forget these other issues are going on in Europe at the same time. Major issues.
Greek got bailed out three times or something like this. Before the refugee crisis. If I'm a refugee I'm not stopping in Greece either. Neither would you.
Your last statement I dunno how to take that. What do you mean you're biased? Are you more American than me or something? What does even mean?
Yeah I wouldn't stop in Greece either. My point was that it wasn't just about getting to safety for many of these refugees. It's about getting to rich countries with plenty of benefits and I don't blame them one bit. The crazy politicians who have set up such a system, on the other hand...
The last bit about being biased was just to mean that I'm American and I'm proud of our country and its people. I was agreeing with you. Jesus man.
It's why I asked before taking it some type of way. Jeez.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
It's why I asked before taking it some type of way. Jeez.
It's all good.
I just don't want to get to the point where we disagree with each other just because it's each other posting. Sounds silly, but I've seen it happen on here with others.
Back from a busy day and finally got to read thru this thread.
First of all, If Trump wanted someone to kill Hillary, he would have said, "Someone should kill that crook." He has never been one to mince words.
Second, I think we should end ALL immigration to America until such time as we have reasonably absorb the 12 million illegals we have already taken in.
I personally wouldn't go that far. However, the open door policy that we have been gravitating toward is insane. By all means accept the engineers, doctors, entrepreneurs. Take the best and brightest and those who are very likely to be assets to the country. Hopefully we learn from the mistakes that Europe has made before our system is completely overburdened.
Related video that gives a good graphical description of this that some people have found helpful:
Life long liars.................lie. Constantly. Lie.
But, some want to ignore it even though it stares them in the face.
It's odd how all the clinton supporters do nothing but rail on trump, yet totally ignore clintons blatant lies - to the public, to congress, to the fbi.
Pathetic.
But, I wouldn't want to be in the clinton cross hairs if I had info proving her a liar. Why? They tend to die. They even commit suicide by gun. Even though no gun was found around the dead.
But, ya'll go on supporting her. I can't help your stupidity, I can only point it out.
I posted this a few times yet nobody ever replied to it. Hillary supporters just want to ignore it like it doesn't exist. Most of them act like Bill Clinton. They get smacked in the face with her lies. It's like they watched them on a 60 foot high screen in front of the entire world then turn around and say "I never heard her say that"
By David A. Fahrenthold and Robert O’Harrow Jr. August 10, 2016 link
The lawyer gave Donald Trump a note, written in Trump’s own handwriting. He asked Trump to read it aloud.
Trump may not have realized it yet, but he had walked into a trap.
“Peter, you’re a real loser,” Trump began reading.
The mogul had sent the note to a reporter, objecting to a story that said Trump owned a “small minority stake” in a Manhattan real estate project. Trump insisted that the word “small” was incorrect. Trump continued reading: “I wrote, ‘Is 50 percent small?’ ”
“This [note] was intended to indicate that you had a 50 percent stake in the project, correct?” said the lawyer.
“That’s correct,” Trump said.
For the first of many times that day, Trump was about to be caught saying something that wasn’t true.
. LAWYER: Mr. Trump, do you own 30 percent or 50 percent of the limited partnership?TRUMP: I own 30 percent.
It was a mid-December morning in 2007 — the start of an interrogation unlike anything else in the public record of Trump’s life.
Trump had brought it on himself. He had sued a reporter, accusing him of being reckless and dishonest in a book that raised questions about Trump’s net worth. The reporter’s attorneys turned the tables and brought Trump in for a deposition.
For two straight days, they asked Trump question after question that touched on the same theme: Trump’s honesty.
The lawyers confronted the mogul with his past statements — and with his company’s internal documents, which often showed those statements had been incorrect or invented. The lawyers were relentless. Trump, the bigger-than-life mogul, was vulnerable — cornered, out-prepared and under oath.
Thirty times, they caught him.
Trump had misstated sales at his condo buildings. Inflated the price of membership at one of his golf clubs. Overstated the depth of his past debts and the number of his employees.
That deposition — 170 transcribed pages — offers extraordinary insights into Trump’s relationship with the truth. Trump’s falsehoods were unstrategic — needless, highly specific, easy to disprove. When caught, Trump sometimes blamed others for the error or explained that the untrue thing really was true, in his mind, because he saw the situation more positively than others did.
“Have you ever lied in public statements about your properties?” the lawyer asked.
“I try and be truthful,” Trump said. “I’m no different from a politician running for office. You always want to put the best foot forward.”
In his presidential campaign, Trump has sought to make his truth-telling a selling point. He nicknamed his main Republican opponent “Lyin’ Ted” Cruz. He called his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, “A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!” in a recent Twitter message. “I will present the facts plainly and honestly,” he said in the opening of his speech at the Republican National Convention. “We cannot afford to be so politically correct anymore.”
Trump has had a habit of telling demonstrable untruths during his presidential campaign. The Washington Post’s Fact Checker has awarded him four Pinocchios — the maximum a statement can receive — 39 times since he announced his bid last summer. In many cases, his statements echo those in the 2007 deposition: They are specific, checkable — and wrong.
Trump said he opposed the Iraq War at the start. He didn’t. He said he’d never mocked a disabled New York Times reporter. He had. Trump also said the National Football League had sent him a letter, objecting to a presidential debate that was scheduled for the same time as a football game. It hadn’t.
Last week, Trump claimed that he had seen footage — taken at a top-secret location and released by the Iranian government — showing a plane unloading a large amount of cash to Iran from the U.S. government. He hadn’t. Trump later conceded he’d been mistaken — he’d seen TV news video that showed a plane during a prisoner release.
But, even under the spotlight of this campaign, Trump has never had an experience quite like this deposition on Dec. 19 and 20, 2007.
He was trapped in a room — with his own prior statements and three high-powered lawyers.
“A very clear and visible side effect of my lawyers’ questioning of Trump is that he [was revealed as] a routine and habitual fabulist,” said Timothy L. O’Brien, the author Trump had sued.
The Washington Post sent the Trump campaign a detailed list of questions about this deposition, listing all the times when Trump seemed to have been caught in a false or unsupported statement. The Post asked Trump whether he wanted to challenge any of those findings — and whether he had felt regret when confronted with them.
He did not answer those questions.
In 2005, O’Brien, then a reporter for the New York Times, had published a book called “Trump Nation: The Art of Being the Donald.” In the book, O’Brien cited people who questioned a claim at the bedrock of Trump’s identity — that his net worth was more than $5 billion. O’Brien said he had spoken to three people who estimated that the figure was between $150 million and $250 million.
Trump sued. He later told The Post that he intended to hurt O’Brien, whom he called a “lowlife sleazebag.”
“I didn’t read [the book], to be honest with you. . . . I never read it. I saw some of the things they said,” Trump said later. “I said: ‘Go sue him. It will cost him a lot of money.’ ”
By filing suit, Trump hadn’t just opened himself up to questioning — he had opened a door into the opaque and secretive company he ran.
O’Brien’s attorneys included Mary Jo White, now the chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission, and Andrew Ceresney, now the SEC’s director of enforcement. The lawsuit had given them the power to request that Trump turn over internal company documents, and they used it. They arrived at the deposition having already identified where Trump’s public statements hadn’t matched the private truth.
This just a small portion of this story, showing the many, many lies and exaggerations Trump got caught and called on by the lawyers.
So David duke, a confirmed racist, is somehow comparable to the dad going to a Hillary rally?
on June 28, 2010, Clinton commemorated late Sen. Byrd by saying, “Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Byrd.”
The same Robert Byrd who once said..
I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS)
Hillary called him a mentor... a trusted adviser... That, my friend, is a democrat who served in the Senate for more than 60 years as a Democrat.. so that is probably far more comparable to David Duke.. only difference is, Trump never called David Duke his mentor.
Yea, the same guy who also disavowed the klan saying it was the worst mistake of his life, and also renounced his actions for voting no for the civil rights act.
I guess Obama is racist too? He is half white, after all.
Damn mixed people.
I directly answered your post.
Now stop dodging and answer mine.
So once again, a KKK leader, who founded the more sophisticated white supremacist party(forget what it's called) is comparable to a dad who did nothing wrong?
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I do believe that Trump has made great strides in being more tactful (and it doesn't seem to be doing him a whole lot of good, quite frankly) but he will never be the kind to tow the party line even when things are completely whack. He is the kind to call it like it is, even when that is not pleasant.
I actually think his attempts to be more tactful make him sound plastic. Trump is who he is!
Yeah, sure he calls it like he sees it today, then tomorrow he says something different about the same things.
The only thing constant about Trump is his knack of being constantly inconsistent.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Trump has taken a beating in the polls this month. There's no way around that.
It's really true, he has, but look at it, most of his hits are self inflicted. Like I asked before, it's gotta be tough to work for someone that can't keep his foot out of his mouth.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Yea, the same guy who also disavowed the klan saying it was the worst mistake of his life, and also renounced his actions for voting no for the civil rights act.
Good for him, I hope he meant it and it wasn't just for political expedience.
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Obama also praised him. In the same article.
I guess Obama is racist too? He is half white, after all.
Damn mixed people.
I have no idea where that came from or what it has to do with anything.
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I directly answered your post.
Now stop dodging and answer mine.
So once again, a KKK leader, who founded the more sophisticated white supremacist party(forget what it's called) is comparable to a dad who did nothing wrong?
You never asked me a question... but if the question above is what you want an answer to, then I will answer it. Yes, they are comparable. They are comparable because to the extent that I'm aware, Trump never sought David Duke's endorsement and Hillary never asked this guy to come to her rally.. so they are comparable in that neither is all that important... just more trivial things to distract the people...
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Donald Trump says if he loses the presidential election to Hillary Clinton, he’d be fine with it because he’s got a lot of money and he’s the one telling the truth.
“I’m a truth teller,” the Republican nominee told CNBC on Thursday. “All I do is tell the truth. And if at the end of 90 days I fall short because I’m somewhat politically [incorrect] even though I’m supposed to be the smart one and even though I’m supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it’s OK. You know, I go back to a very good way of life.”
“It’s not what I’m looking to do,” Trump continued. “I think we’re going to have a victory, but we’ll see.”
Trump said this after being pressed on his comments the night before. At a raucous rally in Florida, he repeated and doubled down on his claim that President Obama was “founder of ISIS” and Hillary Clinton “co-founder” of the terror organization.
“ISIS is honoring President Obama,” Trump said Wednesday night. “He is the founder of ISIS … and I would say the co-founder is crooked Hillary Clinton.”
Obama 'absolutely' the founder of ISIS: Trump Donald Trump, Republican presidential candidate, defends comments he made that President Obama and Hillary Clinton were the "co-founders" of the terrorist group ISIS. I'm a truth-teller, says Trump. Also Trump talks about Hillary Clinton's emails contr... But Trump said Thursday that he wasn’t going to back off his brash claims, even if it could cause him to lose.
“Whatever happens, happens,” he said. “I’m giving it straight. I don’t know that it will work because I’m a nonpolitical person and I’m proud of that. But I’m giving it straight.”
It was not the first time the real estate mogul has considered losing. In April, Trump told a crowd in Maryland that if he didn’t win the Republican primary, “I don’t think you’re ever going to see me again, folks. I think I’ll go to Turnberry and play golf or something.”
But Trump’s latest reflection comes on the heels of several rough weeks for his campaign — marred by a string of controversies that have apparently resulted in Clinton’s rise in the polls. According to RealClearPolitics’ most recent average of national polling data, the former secretary of state has opened up an eight-point lead over Trump (48 percent to 40 percent) among likely voters. Following last month’s Republican National Convention, Trump held a one-point lead over Clinton in RCP’s poll average.
Earlier this month, Trump said he’s “afraid the election is going to be rigged” against him.
But asked about his flailing poll numbers Thursday, he shifted from fear to acceptance.
“At the end, it’s either going to work or I’m going to have a very, very nice long vacation,” he said.
In an interview with Time magazine published Thursday, Trump said he has been taking the advice of GOP leaders, including Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, to stay on message.
“I am now listening to people that are telling me to be easier, nicer, be softer,” he said. “And you know, that’s O.K., and I’m doing that. Personally, I don’t know if that’s what the country wants.”
But he’s clearly not backing off his claims about Obama and Clinton supposedly founding ISIS.
“He was the founder, absolutely,” Trump said on CNBC. “In fact, he and Hillary Clinton get the ‘Most Valuable Player’ award for creating the trouble in the United States.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
That reminds me of the times, when facing an elimination game, coach Popovich would tell reporters that the Spurs would either keep playing or they would take a vacation. He would rather keep playing but a vacation wouldn't be so bad either. (or something to that effect)
Really, Donald Trump just turned 70 years old. Hillary is 68, going on 69 and has some concerning health problems. Donald looks and sounds great but you never know what's going on behind the scenes. My point is that they're both getting up there and one could make a case that neither are personally better off winning the presidency. Both have plenty of money to enjoy the rest of their lives instead of vying for one of the most stressful jobs in the world. Look at 8 years did to Obama and Bush, and those were two younger and healthier guys going into it. Just something to think about anyway.
Of course, there's always this about some of the missing e-mails from Hillary. They were so confidential that not even congress was allowed to see them. Heck, the guy testifying wouldn't even identify the AGENCY that said they were confidential.
Yup, nothing to see here folks. Just move along. Clinton says. Or end up dead.
But, we'll just ignore this, and everything else. Right? I mean, she's a clinton.
The media would rather focus on whatever mean thing Donald Trump said this time instead of focusing on Hillary's issues and policies that put national security at risk.
Obamas approval rating is the highest it's ever been because of the candidates. Usually a president that's been around for 8 years has their ratings crash.
The media would rather focus on whatever mean thing Donald Trump said this time instead of focusing on Hillary's issues and policies that put national security at risk.
This is true. More concerning to me is all the folks who blindly believe every tidbit the lefty media puts forth without even so much as an interest to trust but verify.
Obamas approval rating is the highest it's ever been because of the candidates. Usually a president that's been around for 8 years has their ratings crash.
This has Obama's approval rating at 50% but that was back in June. I don't doubt it has risen since then but the high was 76% from back in 2009. It can't have risen that much but obviously different polls say different things
Obamas approval rating is the highest it's ever been because of the candidates. Usually a president that's been around for 8 years has their ratings crash.
You said his approval rating is the highest it's ever been, but it isn't even close to as high as it was early in his presidency. Maybe I am nitpicking, but words.. they mean something.
An interesting thing about Obama's legacy is that some of the worst mistakes of his presidency were the foreign policy decisions made while Hillary Clinton was the Secretary of State.
Old Hillary clip of her bragging, in a sort of gleefully evil way, about her decision to go in and take out Gaddafi. This was against the advice of the Pentagon and has since proven to be a disaster.
“ISIS is honoring President Obama,” Trump said Wednesday night. “He is the founder of ISIS … and I would say the co-founder is crooked Hillary Clinton.”
Is this an actual comment or did the reporter just make it up?
And if it is an actual comment, how are people like arch and Crjae completely ignoring it?
CNN has now taken to laughing at Trump trade advisor during a panel. Sad.
CNN headline: Trump calls Obama ISIS founder (he's not) Sad.
Really............. the words in paranthesis were " he's not".
Found it interesting they felt the need to laugh at Trump's billionaire advisor and make a disclaimer after a news headline. Is this their job? They need to report FACTS. People use their brains (hopefully) to discern the truth.
