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your schools are no good


He is a liar or ill-informed.

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Think of it this way...

If God was to destroy America over Gay Marriage, would not all American Christians also have their Nation destroyed?

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So instead of destroying huge gay community cities like San Fran and Atlanta, he decides to destroy bible belt states?

God makes weird decisions.


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Tonight when all is quiet, close your eyes and file a complaint.

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I'm good. My spirit Animal Harambe has my back.


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Might I be so bold as to ask you if you believe in Hell?

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No.

not that way religion describes it, anyway.


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That is good because I have heard that it hurts a little less if you don't believe in it.

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Who did you "hear" that from? Or, are you on drugs?

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Did God tell you that when you closed your eyes? or was it Fox news? apparently there isn't a difference, anymore.


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So is Ryan Lochte just practicing for the 2020 dem nomination?


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He didn't get away with the lie, so he's gonna need way more practice before he's ready for 2020, bro.


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Neither did Hillary but it seems to be working for her.


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She's got skills though. Lochte is still finding his way.


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I'm sure that's why he's starting early and on the big stage.


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Yeah. Probably the best thing for him to do would've been to go on a golf vacation.
can you ever stick up for your boy instead of saying " yeah but " and deflecting to someone else?


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You have such a great sense of humor.

Btw: your punctuation was off. Thus, my comment.

But again, it was a small joke and not intended as an insult.


If for one second, I thought you were joking, I'd have laughed with you. But I seriously doubt you were.
Dude, I feel ya, but he is right on this one. You punctuated it wrong and that made it funny.

It should have read ; I remember when Obama was running against McCain, and my Mom, 81 or so at the time


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your schools are no good


He is a liar or ill-informed.
Not really, what he said about our schools is true.

And when I say OUR, I mean schools in the hood


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No, schools in the hood receive way more money than schools that are not. They have way more technology than those in other areas. They have many more opportunities than those that are not.

I've been to both.

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No, schools in the hood receive way more money than schools that are not. They have way more technology than those in other areas. They have many more opportunities than those that are not.

I've been to both.
You have no clue what you are talking about. The difference between inner city schools and high income schools is like night and day


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Well, considering I have worked in both............it would be safe to assume I do have a clue.

Inner city schools receive more money than those that are not in the inner city. They have way more technology and better programs.

Your windy insults doesn't change that fact!

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No they dont

I have attended and had kids in both

Two completely different worlds


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I have WAY more experience in the matter than you do! Just shut up and listen for once.

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I have WAY more experience in the matter than you do! Just shut up and listen for once.
dont tell me to shut up, who the hell do you think you are?? You have never even been in East Cleveland, let alone been a teacher there . I doubt very seriously that have EVER even been a teacher at all. Stop the high and mighty ACT.


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Yeah. Probably the best thing for him to do would've been to go on a golf vacation.
can you ever stick up for your boy instead of saying " yeah but " and deflecting to someone else?


"My boy"???? Funny.

Can you ever get over yourself and admit "your girl" is a sack?

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Many schools, regardless of inner-city or not, spend a ton on ridiculous assessments that fail to measure all learning modalities.

I'm sure much of the extra support money gets mismanaged.

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Well, considering I have worked in both............it would be safe to assume I do have a clue.

Inner city schools receive more money than those that are not in the inner city. They have way more technology and better programs.

Your windy insults doesn't change that fact!


I don't care where you have worked.

Inner city schools may get more money from the state, but that's not where all of the funding comes from.

We have an awesome school district. We also have a very good manufacturing base. And those jobs contribute tax money to our school.

Go 20 miles this way, or 20 miles that way, and I can show you schools that don't have jack compared to us. They get state funding, as all public schools do. What they do with it, I don't know.

And I don't for 1 second think inner city public schools have more technology. They don't have better technology, and they don't have better programs. Period.

They may get more money per student from the state, but that doesn't mean it's spent on education, or technology, or learning.

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The question that I have is pretty simple.

What has the Republican part done in the past 75 years to ever merit a vote from a black person?

Action speak louder than words, and there has been no support and nothing but animosity between the black community and the Republican Party from a historical perspective. They are oil and water.


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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What they do with it, I don't know.


Not even us educators knows. I think districts should give us a breakdown of per-pupil funding.

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Vers, I think Arch has a point. Not all inner-city districts get managed the same way. The receive more in money, but I have a strong inkling much of it gets mismanaged.

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Per pupil funding is relatively easy to find. I've seen it posted on here - at least for Ohio.

WHAT it is spent on is much harder to find.

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Updated June 13, 2016

Here is a complete list of public education by state rankings on a per-pupil spending basis. States are listed alphabetically:

Alabama: $9,028
Alaska: $18,416
Arizona: $7,528
Arkansas: $9,616
California: $9,595
Colorado: $8,985
Connecticut: $17,745
Delaware: $13,938
District of Columbia: $18,485
Florida: $8,755
Georgia: $9,202
Hawaii: $12,458
Idaho: $6,621
Illinois: $13,077
Indiana: $9,548
Iowa: $10,668
Kansas: $9,972
Kentucky: $9,312
Louisiana: $10,749
Maine: $12,707
Maryland: $14,003
Massachusetts: $15,087
Michigan: $11,110
Minnesota: $11,464
Mississippi: $8,263
Missouri: $9,875
Montana: $11,017
Nebraska: $11,726
Nevada: $8,414
New Hampshire: $14,335
New Jersey: $17,907
New Mexico: $9,734
New York: $20,610
North Carolina: $8,512
North Dakota: $12,358
Ohio: $11,354
Oklahoma: $7,829
Oregon: $9,945
Pennsylvania: $13,961
Rhode Island: $14,767
South Carolina: $9,732
South Dakota: $8,881
Tennessee: $8,630
Texas: $8,593
Utah: $6,500
Vermont: $16,988
Virginia: $10,973
Washington: $10,202
West Virginia: $11,260
Wisconsin: $11,186
Wyoming: $15,797


http://education.cu-portland.edu/blog/cl...state-rankings/

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Alaska's one of the highest due to districts like where I teach. We're far removed from society, and you can't drive to where I'm at.

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So those ties to Russia.... Not looking too good.


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I don't care where you have worked.


That speaks to your mindset.


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And I don't for 1 second think inner city public schools have more technology.


Another bizarre comment. Our students each had their own laptops. When we would have district meetings, teachers at the "rich" schools were flabbergasted. And that is just one example.

Look, it's up to the individual as to "what" they want to believe. But, I know better and am simply trying to provide accurate information.

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And if you guys wanna continue arguing, I will provide some proof to show how completely wrong you are. Here is just one example:

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Title I, Part A (Title I) of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, as amended (ESEA) provides financial assistance to local educational agencies (LEAs) and schools with high numbers or high percentages of children from low-income families to help ensure that all children meet challenging state academic standards.

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i have to ask you again, are you talking about now or even recently?

i went to high school from 2001-05. the public school during my first two years before transferring to a private school didn't have close to anything you're talking about.


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According to Ohio and Michigan and probably most other states, I only know Ohio and Michigan off the top of my head, fund half of their school budgets via state property tax (Found unconstitutional btw). So while the federal government may help a bit (Their $500 mil budget is less than what Hill and Don have raised this campaign), it's still up to the state to rely on funding the rest of the school via property tax. Well, I doubt East Cleveland is making as much as Solon in property taxes. It's all right here.

http://www.tax.ohio.gov/portals/0/research/property_taxation_school_funding_2012c.pdf

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Yeah. Probably the best thing for him to do would've been to go on a golf vacation.
can you ever stick up for your boy instead of saying " yeah but " and deflecting to someone else?


"My boy"???? Funny.

Can you ever get over yourself and admit "your girl" is a sack?
and here you do it again, I hate Hilary Clinton


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it's still up to the state to rely on funding the rest of the school via property tax. Well, I doubt East Cleveland is making as much as Solon in property taxes. It's all right here.

http://www.tax.ohio.gov/portals/0/research/property_taxation_school_funding_2012c.pdf


Not sure how Ohio does it as I left when I went to University and my folks are now retired and live out near me.

Nevertheless, here in Portland IF a wealthy school does a charity event to raise money that money has to go to the district they divvy it up so a percentage goes to the school that raised it but, a percentage also gets allocated to lower income schools. Otherwise, as you say...it would never be fair.

That said, Oregon also has no sales tax so after the Federal Government allocation our schools are primarily funded with both property and income tax. When the recession hit as there were fewer people buying houses and high unemployment...schools were hit bad. With no sales tax to tap into as a rainy day fund schools across Oregon had to lay off teachers, cut programs and classrooms soared to 45 in a academic class and 50-60 in electives (Art, PE etc.). Even now, with money having returned classroom sizes in Oregon are still amongst the highest in the nation.

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