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Changing the title of threads is uncool.
Also, your take appears to be more deflective in nature than logical.
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Two articles, both referring back to Tony Grossi .... that ain't news. It's just Grossi being Grossi.
I just think I heard Grossi say that Bill Cowher bought a home in Strongsville! 
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Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk also raised a good point: Wouldn’t the Browns be the only ones to know if multiple teams had made offers for Gordon. And if Schefter’s source was someone in the Browns organization, what’s the motive? If the team has no interest in trading Gordon, they could just say nothing. Either they really want him to feel the love, or they could be trying to drive up the asking price.
So, who else would know that there were multiple teams that made offers for Gordon other than the Browns? This is the point that Joe Banner brought up on his Twitter. The only one who would release this info is the Browns, and the Browns would only release it if they were interested in trading Gordon and wanted to let teams know that he was available. So no matter how we see it, we'd be willing to trade Gordon depending on the price............ Apparently, no one has come up with a good enough offer yet
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I don't know if the Browns should trade Gordon or not. I can see the pros and cons of trading him and not trading him.
I won't bash the Browns either way. I just don't get the sentiment that this story is about Grossi or the media. The Browns would be foolish to not at least gauge other team's interest in acquiring Gordon.
Oh..........and I have been listening to Grossi's reports since I have been back in Ohio, and he has been unusually positive. Almost butt-kissing positive.
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Two articles, both referring back to Tony Grossi .... that ain't news. It's just Grossi being Grossi.
I figured the Grossi thing would be beat upon. I considered that factor as well, but the logic of it makes sense. Well, it is partly beating on Grossi (and he deserves it - completely), but it is also pointing out that those two articles aren't reinforcing anything, they're simply parroting what Grossi has already said. That isn't corroboration or any additional smoke; it's just someone else saying that they heard someone say that they think there is smoke. Additionally, Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk also raised a good point: Wouldn’t the Browns be the only ones to know if multiple teams had made offers for Gordon. And if Schefter’s source was someone in the Browns organization, what’s the motive? If the team has no interest in trading Gordon, they could just say nothing. Either they really want him to feel the love, or they could be trying to drive up the asking price.
So, who else would know that there were multiple teams that made offers for Gordon other than the Browns? Oh, I didn't say or mean that you suggested that.... I meant that the Browns would have to be utterly stupid to trade him for so little. In short - we're back to one of my earlier posts: trading him for anything less than a 1st would be stupid, yet nobody will offer a 1st until he's on the field and performing. At which point, it would be so very Browns to trade someone actually performing worthy of a 1st for a 1st that we'll use in the slim hopes of getting someone who can perform worthy of a 1st. There is just no reasonable logic in there, at all.
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peen.........not sure my post was as much about judging his character or whether or not the Browns can trust Gordon moving forward. Fair enough...if he lets us down again, he is probably out of football. I get the whole trust factor. I just view it as we have already paid the price for the guy. If he screws up again, we should probably expect it and it won't be any big deal.
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Two articles, both referring back to Tony Grossi .... that ain't news. It's just Grossi being Grossi.
I just think I heard Grossi say that Bill Cowher bought a home in Strongsville! Strongsville ... Cleats Wings! !
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Two articles, both referring back to Tony Grossi .... that ain't news. It's just Grossi being Grossi.
I just think I heard Grossi say that Bill Cowher bought a home in Strongsville! Strongsville ... Cleats Wings! ! Strongsville is soooo 2000s. He's now looking in Brecksville.
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his ethnic background is TAUGHT to lie early/about everything smdh... Dude, having a rough childhood or coming from a poor family is NOT ETHNIC BACKGROUND. So unless you meant he lies because he's Black, you seriously need to reconsider your words. BUT if you meant he lies because he's Black... that's racist as hell.
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Lol, the Gordon trade rumor/s are non-stories.
That's my take.
This same story could be written about 1/4 of the league.
Teams literally inquire about players all the time.
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Yeah we weren't trying to shop any of our players lately.
Good By Mingo! lol
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Just wanted to get the title back on track.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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This subject line is the title to my post, obviously only the OP can change the thread title I think the idea is to NOT change the subject line, ed.
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Is this bizzaro world?
Mingo being traded proves my point.
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Is this bizzaro world?
Mingo being traded proves my point. Not until RG3 fans came along.
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Oh, okay....
A team inquiring about player X (which happens everyday) doesn't mean that player X is on the trading block.
If that were the case then most of the league is on the trading block.
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You can do whatever you like with the title of your posts. And I'll politely do whatever I please with mine.
The point of titling the subject line is to help track ideas that diverge from the OP or otherwise express or opine a differing view
But to each their own.
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Just trying to get the thread back to its actual intent.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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I'm looking forward to seeing the full receiving corps on Friday.
I'll be interested in where they line up when they go 3 wide. (Coleman, Gordon Pryor)
Especially who lines up at the X,Z and slot spots.
I'm interested in finally seeing Hawk out there, haven't seen him yet.
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Two articles, both referring back to Tony Grossi .... that ain't news. It's just Grossi being Grossi.
I just think I heard Grossi say that Bill Cowher bought a home in Strongsville! Strongsville ... Cleats Wings! ! I ate Wings at a Cleats in Westlake a time or three before they closed. I stay out there a few times a year on my trips up for games.
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Is there a point to that post, other than displaying your awesome sarcastic nature?
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peen.........not sure my post was as much about judging his character or whether or not the Browns can trust Gordon moving forward. Fair enough...if he lets us down again, he is probably out of football. I get the whole trust factor. I just view it as we have already paid the price for the guy. If he screws up again, we should probably expect it and it won't be any big deal. So ALL of the trouble he's had in the past, and it's been a LOT, doesn't mean we shouldn't completely trust him. However, if he let's us down one MORE time, then that means we let him go? This is an idiot that got a DUI while awaiting an appeal hearing for a year suspension for drugs. Counting this year's suspension he will have been suspended in four of the five years he's been in the league. Then of course there is all the trouble he had in college. Yet you say ALL of that doesn't mean anything. However, one MORE screw up will..... If all of those other troubles don't convince that we should fully expect him to screw up at any minute and that the Browns should JUMP at any chance they get to trade him? Then one two three or four more incidents shouldn't either. Hell, we should REWARD him getting suspended again. Give him a HUGE deal. ALL of it guaranteed. The more meathead gets suspended the more you guys love his dumb ass. So sign him long term and buy him a big bag of weed. He gets suspended again we can put him in the ring of honor.....
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You would be "pissed off" if we traded him for a first round pick?
I don't think anyone needs to worry. I seriously doubt anyone would trade a first round pick for a guy who has been "caught" as much as Gordon has. Yeah, I actually think I would. A lot, big time, in fact. It's the premise that nobody will trade a 1st for him until he's back on the field and performing well -- at which point, I have to think that only the Browns with their history of utter failure and incompetence at drafting with 1st rounders would trade a guy that is actually performing worthy of a first rounder for a first rounder that they will quite likely turn into just another waste. We have a Bird in the hand. We should just be happy, especially if that bid starts to turn into a rather rare Phoenix. I take it then that you would be in favor of resigning him to a long term deal right? Give him a big signing bonus with plenty of guaranteed money? And WHEN he gets suspended again, you'll love him all the more. You don't care if meathead actually plays or produces for the Browns, you just want him on the roster. He really lit it up last year didn't he? And the year before he was on FIRE. *snicker* Suspended in four of his five seasons. Two YEAR LONG suspensions and man we just can't LIVE without him because he really helped us since we drafted him..... Trade Joe Thomas but don't trade meathead. Alrighty then. I don't care if he scores 15 touchdowns and catches 100 balls. The MINUTE we think we can count on him, the minute we sign him to a long term deal, he WILL screw up and make us rue the day. BET on it.
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Absolutely, I'm in favor of giving him a long-term contract if he earns one.
I'm also in favor of language that makes it so he doesn't get one cent and we can re-claim the signing bonus money if he uses again at any point during his career. We have ALL the leverage, it's Win-Win for us.
And, what fool would want to trade Joe Thomas? Don't be putting that crap on me!!
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You would be "pissed off" if we traded him for a first round pick?
I don't think anyone needs to worry. I seriously doubt anyone would trade a first round pick for a guy who has been "caught" as much as Gordon has. Yeah, I actually think I would. A lot, big time, in fact. It's the premise that nobody will trade a 1st for him until he's back on the field and performing well -- at which point, I have to think that only the Browns with their history of utter failure and incompetence at drafting with 1st rounders would trade a guy that is actually performing worthy of a first rounder for a first rounder that they will quite likely turn into just another waste. We have a Bird in the hand. We should just be happy, especially if that bid starts to turn into a rather rare Phoenix. I take it then that you would be in favor of resigning him to a long term deal right? Give him a big signing bonus with plenty of guaranteed money? And WHEN he gets suspended again, you'll love him all the more. You don't care if meathead actually plays or produces for the Browns, you just want him on the roster. He really lit it up last year didn't he? And the year before he was on FIRE. *snicker* Suspended in four of his five seasons. Two YEAR LONG suspensions and man we just can't LIVE without him because he really helped us since we drafted him..... Trade Joe Thomas but don't trade meathead. Alrighty then. I don't care if he scores 15 touchdowns and catches 100 balls. The MINUTE we think we can count on him, the minute we sign him to a long term deal, he WILL screw up and make us rue the day. BET on it. I'll take that bet
I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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