Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,593
Likes: 238
Hall of Famer
OP Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,593
Likes: 238
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17417366/cleveland-browns-play-starters-preseason-finale

Hue Jackson to play Browns' starters in preseason finale

BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns will play their starters in Thursday's preseason finale against the Chicago Bears, coach Hue Jackson said Monday.

It's not typical for a team to use its starters in the final game. Most coaches prefer to rest them to avoid the risk of injury. In last weekend's games, the Dallas Cowboys lost quarterback Tony Romo to a fractured vertebra, and the Baltimore Ravens lost tight end Ben Watson to a torn Achilles tendon.

Jackson, though, feels his team needs more playing time before the season opener Sept. 11 in Philadelphia.

"I think we need to play them," said Jackson, who added he was not sure how long the starters would play, just that they would. "I think we need to get better as a football team."

The Browns have had a rocky preseason. They've been outscored 71-37 in losing three games, and Friday against Tampa Bay trailed 27-10 after the first half.

Quarterback Robert Griffin has thrown five deep passes for 215 yards, but on his other 25 passes, he has thrown for just 67 yards.





Hue's lost his mind! the season is long enough and there is no need to play a starter when Chicago's bottom of the roster players are out there trying to make a big play and a name for themselves.


Blocking those who argue to argue, eliminates the argument.
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,608
Likes: 89
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,608
Likes: 89
With Ohio State, it has been said that they do not have a bench, just extra starters.

With our Browns, it is somewhat the opposite. We have a handful of starters and then extra subs before you get to the 2nd string. We cannot start too many starters because we don't have that many. This is a non-story.


How does a league celebrating its 100th season only recognize the 53 most recent championships?

#gmstrong
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
Hue is installing a new O and new D and this team lacks chemistry. Not playing his starters would be foolish. I like it and I loved the fact he was playing his starting front 7 in the 4th quarter last week, minus Kirksey. You dont get better by watching guys who arent gonna make the team play.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,426
Likes: 15
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,426
Likes: 15
Yea and they sucked .. Sorry Dawg but but we are so behind the eight ball when it comes to talent ; Especially on the " D " ..

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Likes: 906
V
Legend
Offline
Legend
V
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Likes: 906
The Browns are going to suck no matter what. Screw it, play 'em all and get a couple of starters hurt.

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,839
Likes: 11
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,839
Likes: 11
Play'em... they need the work.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 38,525
Likes: 809
B
Legend
Offline
Legend
B
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 38,525
Likes: 809
I wouldn't pull them until they score 24 points on O.

On D...I'd start and play the 2nd and 3rd team the whole game, I would let them know that EVERY starters job is in jeopardy. Go take the job if you can.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

GM Strong




[Linked Image]
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
I just think with the new camp practice rules, you have to play your guys in preseason unless you are already a superbowl contender. We arent a contender. We are a builder and we arent gonna build a better team playing guys that will be looking for work come sunday night.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,387
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,387
We are starting players that wouldn't make the practice squad on most teams so yeah who cares.


Congratulations to our 2016 NBA Champion CLEVELAND CAVALIERS!!! Greatest comeback in sports history... Hail to the King!

The great QB guru and the Moneyball group: 1-15
Record of Criminal Haslam owned Browns: 20-60 (0.250)
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,645
Likes: 672
O
Legend
Offline
Legend
O
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,645
Likes: 672
Personally I think Hue is running a good program. I was really uninspired by the hire at first, did not like the hire... But the more I see the more I like him. Now that doesn't make him a great HC but it does mean something to me.

Some of the coaches that have been through here I couldn't stand and never did like.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 70,623
Likes: 509
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 70,623
Likes: 509
I think we're trying something we never have yet, so why not let them try


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
IF (big) IF...there is decent RT play from somebody...Coleman, Drango...then I think the OL will be good enough to compete.
The read-option is gonna help the run game and the pass protection.

The defense.....

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
D
Legend
Offline
Legend
D
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Only one way chemistry is formed. Play em' Hue. I have no problem with this. We'll be going up against non starters so it can help them clean up some things, build confidence and etc.

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
I think it's a good move to play the starters. There are more teams (good teams) that play their starters in the 4th preseason game then people realize. (Seattle for one)

Plus it's clear the squad needs the reps/build continuity/build confidence through on the field success etc. Griffin, Corey Coleman, Hawkins, Higgins, Drango, Shon Coleman, The entire defense. Special teams.

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 8,103
Likes: 342
Hall of Famer
Online
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 8,103
Likes: 342
...We practically are a college team. Get them all the reps they can. We've got a lot of growing to do.

For the more established starters, one solid drive to re-establish their confidence might be beneficial.

Of course, they'll probably look bad, and someone will get hurt. But, that's Browns football in the 21st century.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns.
Fiercely Independent.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
BE was never the same after running barefoot and having stallworth step on his foot.

we have had players wife stab said player

one claiming he had staff when he had the clap

Hell Desmond Bryant is out for the year because of a mystery.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,089
Likes: 293
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,089
Likes: 293
Watching last years debacle..has me excited for this year...

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Likes: 906
V
Legend
Offline
Legend
V
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Likes: 906
For what? The first overall pick in the draft?

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,487
Likes: 723
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,487
Likes: 723
RG3 is taking us to the playoffs.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

- Theodore Roosevelt
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 49,959
Likes: 352
Legend
Online
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 49,959
Likes: 352
Originally Posted By: Swish
RG3 is taking us to the playoffs.


Maybe, but not this year.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,487
Likes: 723
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 51,487
Likes: 723
i have hope bro.

i mean....it's all i got at this point.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

- Theodore Roosevelt
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,608
Likes: 89
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,608
Likes: 89
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I wouldn't pull them until they score 24 points on O.


So, until the Redskins game on October 2nd?


How does a league celebrating its 100th season only recognize the 53 most recent championships?

#gmstrong
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 27,946
Likes: 763
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 27,946
Likes: 763
Originally Posted By: Swish
i have hope bro.

i mean....it's all i got at this point.


I really just need to change the title on the site to "Abandon hope, all ye who enter".


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,833
Likes: 106
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,833
Likes: 106
Scary. We need the work. D needs a bunch. Injuries for a no-count game can bite you in the bum. I presume we won't see too much of the starters overall.

The early cuts and trades mean we need less film for the final cuts. So let's play this and get on with biz. Hue is fond of getting better and moving forward; is that happening? Not sure I have seen it. Early cuts mean more reps to starters as well. Glad we don't have JFF and another QB controversy. Now I get to focus and obsess over the bad. tongue


"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 70,623
Likes: 509
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 70,623
Likes: 509
Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I wouldn't pull them until they score 24 points on O.


So, until the Redskins game on October 2nd?


Over/Under week 6 tongue


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 112
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 112
Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I wouldn't pull them until they score 24 points on O.


So, until the Redskins game on October 2nd?


rofl ..that's one for the books!


A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.
– Jackie Robinson
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,528
Likes: 6
I think this team will score points. We have really been captain obvious when running the football thus far and we have actually been pretty good for preseason. hue is gonna make it interesting.

the D isnt very good right now but they will get better as we go. Horton has thrown everything at these kids and at some point it will start sticking.

this will be a fun team to watch but it will have games like against the bucs as well. inconsistency of youth.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 67,546
Likes: 1328
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 67,546
Likes: 1328
I just have to say that our 1st string playing against the opponents scrubs accomplishes very little.

I mean if you're a player, you know you're lining up against scrubs. How does that build confidence? If you're playing against scrubs, how do you know if "you cleaned up" anything?

The only thing I see it accomplishing is trying to cut down on penalties. And even at that, if you were an OL player, how do you know you wouldn't hold against a better opponent?

I don't see any real harm in playing them except the increased chance of injury. I'm just not sure that it will actually accomplish anything.

Players know they won't be playing against high quality players and so do most of the fans. Even in the secondary, it should be much easier to cover non starters.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398
Likes: 280
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398
Likes: 280
Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I wouldn't pull them until they score 24 points on O.


So, until the Redskins game on October 2nd?

Sad... but funny.


yebat' Putin
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 27,946
Likes: 763
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 27,946
Likes: 763
Linemen can get line calls right, they can get their gaps correct, WR's can work on their reads and routes, the QB can work on their progressions and timing, DB's & LB's can work on coverage technique, etc....


There is a LOT - all of the basics, which we need - that they can work on.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398
Likes: 280
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398
Likes: 280
Quote:
I mean if you're a player, you know you're lining up against scrubs. How does that build confidence? If you're playing against scrubs, how do you know if "you cleaned up" anything?

Well, the Bears are not a great team.. so if we can't have success against their scrubs, then that alone will tell us a lot.


yebat' Putin
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 8,103
Likes: 342
Hall of Famer
Online
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 8,103
Likes: 342
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I just have to say that our 1st string playing against the opponents scrubs accomplishes very little.

I mean if you're a player, you know you're lining up against scrubs. How does that build confidence? If you're playing against scrubs, how do you know if "you cleaned up" anything?

The only thing I see it accomplishing is trying to cut down on penalties. And even at that, if you were an OL player, how do you know you wouldn't hold against a better opponent?

I don't see any real harm in playing them except the increased chance of injury. I'm just not sure that it will actually accomplish anything.

Players know they won't be playing against high quality players and so do most of the fans. Even in the secondary, it should be much easier to cover non starters.


I suppose that means we shouldn't hold practices either. I mean if playing against scrubs doesn't accomplish anything.

We're young in a lot of places, treat it like a practice/scrimmage. Every rep matters for us.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns.
Fiercely Independent.
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
E
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
E
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,041
J/c

Do we even know that the Bears starters aren't playing?

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 67,546
Likes: 1328
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 67,546
Likes: 1328
I think our first string D verses our first string O would accomplish a lot more than our first string O and D playing against opposing scrubs.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 8,103
Likes: 342
Hall of Famer
Online
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 8,103
Likes: 342
I thought our first string D were scrubs.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns.
Fiercely Independent.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,593
Likes: 238
Hall of Famer
OP Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,593
Likes: 238
hopefully, the Bridgewater fiasco will knock some sense into hue before the game.


Blocking those who argue to argue, eliminates the argument.
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Likes: 501
C
Legend
Offline
Legend
C
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Likes: 501
Originally Posted By: superbowldogg
hopefully, the Bridgewater fiasco will knock some sense into hue before the game.


Yes. Especially because our QB also has chicken legs.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398
Likes: 280
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,398
Likes: 280
Originally Posted By: superbowldogg
hopefully, the Bridgewater fiasco will knock some sense into hue before the game.

How does a non-contact injury in practice dictate what you do in the 4th preseason game?

In fact, if I'm Hue, this furthers it for me.. it can happen anywhere at any time.. so what difference do 2 more possessions make? It could just as easily happen on the first drive of week 1.. at least if it happens this week, McCown has a week to prepare with the 1s.


yebat' Putin
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 67,546
Likes: 1328
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 67,546
Likes: 1328
Originally Posted By: GrimmBrown
I thought our first string D were scrubs.


Well you finally made a point that's hard to argue. lol


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 38,525
Likes: 809
B
Legend
Offline
Legend
B
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 38,525
Likes: 809
Originally Posted By: WhatCanBrownDo4U
We are starting players that wouldn't make the practice squad on most teams so yeah who cares.



Why don't you go to the smack shack and stay there. That is not a legit comment....pure smack.....go away kid.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

GM Strong




[Linked Image]
Page 1 of 2 1 2
DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2016 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 7 Bears 21 Hue Jackson to play Browns' starters in preseason finale

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5