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Unfortunately, I think he showed up too well in the pre-season. Saw too many complimentary quotes from Pete Carroll as well.
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I wish him well in any case. He's a local kid, from Bedford. I just thought it might be a steep uphill battle for a UDFA DB to make a secondary that is so deep, talent-wise.
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I dont think we can afford to cut gilbert. I don't think they could afford to cut, the whole list of about every veteran they have. When they get to the final 53; how many left on this defense will have memory of an AFC north division game?
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If Kessler is cut I'd be shocked (and elated to know that our FO is willing to admit a mistake and keep the best guys)
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Kessler can't cut it at this level. He can't put zip on the ball outside
The hashmarks.when protection brears down he loses it mentally.
He could have went undrafted easily.
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Aaron Murray waived by KC is a pretty big transaction. He would be a huge upgrade over Kessler (although I know Hue would never cut him yet).
Murray is pretty highly thought of in the NFL as a backup/spot starter ... but with Foles signing with KC he became odd man out I don't know if that's true.. Kessler has been a disappointment thus far. I think we all can see it, can't believe that Hue can't. So maybe Kessler is gone also or maybe the PS. Don't know but for sure anything is possible. He probably sees it, but Huge might be like Butch who let his ego interfere with making sound football decisions. Kessler was a coach pick. Coach is the one who said to trust him on this one....remember?? Remember Butch saying James Jackson might make us forget Leroy Kelly? A coach gets tied to a quote, he is going to do everything possible to make sure his words ring true.
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If Kessler is cut I'd be shocked (and elated to know that our FO is willing to admit a mistake and keep the best guys) I am very confident that Kessler was a coach pick. No way the FO decides to not keep the coaches pick. If for no other reason than to let the coach know he needs to stick to coaching and let the FO do the selecting of the players.
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Leon McFadden cut, shocking (ha).
Matt Ioannidis also cut, 5th rounder this year by Redskins, I liked him pre-draft, unlikely to get to our PS, but would like that.
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Just curious, how many players that were on the practice squad end up being good? James Harrison was on/off the Steelers practice squad 2001-2002 and he turned out OK I was thinking of him. I'm just thinking it's more of an exception for a guy to be good after being on a practice squad. It's something to think about as we fill out the team.
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Kessler was a coach pick.
Hue is doing his best to work with our inexperienced front office and is willing to take the heat for their mistakes.
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Kessler was a coach pick.
Hue is doing his best to work with our inexperienced front office and is willing to take the heat for their mistakes.
imo...This is the best. Never change.
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Gilbert should be relieved How he makes a Nfl roster is a mystery IR?
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Leon gets axed again. Man, he was a bad pick
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Kessler can't cut it at this level. Based on what? Is this his 2nd year or has he been given any opportunities yet? He can't put zip on the ball outside The hashmarks.when protection brears down he loses it mentally. again, Based on what? Doctor of his arm strength?, or Psychiatrist of his mind? (maybe coaches change these) Perhaps "You" don't thing Kessler can cut it at this level, but "somebody" picked him in the top 100 picks. So "I'm" just saying give him a chance, let his career play out more than this tiny bit, and if the team cuts him, then that's the teams decision.
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Mary Kay is saying Hamlett got cut on twitter. Trying to get him to Practice Squad. Link Practice success didn't translate to the games. Hopefully he makes it to the PS.
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Hamlett is enormous and a decent two dimensional project
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devalve should be on the roster then
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I think that every draft pick makes the roster.
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I think that every draft pick makes the roster. i thought scooby would be a ps guy, but you might be right
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Caldwell might be a PS guy, too. Hasn't been healthy. Depends on what CBs end up available.
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i thought scooby, louis, devalve, caldwell would be PS candidates
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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As long as the hamstring isn't serious, I think Louis makes it as a special teamer.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot 3m3 minutes ago The #Browns have cut receivers Taylor Gabriel and Marlon Moore, a league source told http://cleveland.com
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Not surprised one bit. The guy hasn't been anything special since being here and he's a carryover from a previous regime.
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@MaryKayCabot please tell me that @TwoStarScoob changing his Twitter pic/description to college stuff not #Browns doesn't mean he's gone Scooby's status is in doubt. Hopefully makes it to the practice squad if it means he got cut.
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I knew it was either Gabriel or Hawkins.. with Hawkins history with Hue.. makes sense...
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Browns trading former first-round CB Justin Gilbert to the Pittsburgh Steelers, per league source. Rare in-division trade.
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Gilbert gone.
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Browns trading former first-round CB Justin Gilbert to the Pittsburgh Steelers, per league source. Rare in-division trade.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Kessler was a coach pick.
Hue is doing his best to work with our inexperienced front office and is willing to take the heat for their mistakes.
imo... You can point to the FO all you want, but this was a Coach pick. Just the way he talked about Kessler, and going in to the draft it was widly reported that Hue was going to have significant input on the QB. since that was his specialty. That said, I am not as down on Kessler as some. It's way too early to call the kid a bust.
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I am a bit surprised by Gabriel. He was targeted a lot by McCown in preseason. I thought he might be beat out Payton or Louis who we haven't seen a lot of.
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I am a bit surprised by Gabriel. He was targeted a lot by McCown in preseason. I thought he might be beat out Payton or Louis who we haven't seen a lot of. I love Gabriel. I think he would be great on the Patriots. There was a very small chance he was going to make the team because of all the receivers we picked.
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Hard to be surprised by anything, though I don't think Hamlett got a fair shake, giving up a spot to Devalve.
I get that Devalve was hurt most of the time, but no way he "earned" a roster spot.
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