Has Trump even ran any commercials? I know Georgia isnt a battleground state so I havent seen many. Although there has been a lot of clinton commercials.
Are there Trump commercials in Ohio?
I feel like he will lose because he doesnt run any commercials. Its like letting someone kick you and you just lay there taking it.
Has Trump even ran any commercials? I know Georgia isnt a battleground state so I havent seen many. Although there has been a lot of clinton commercials.
Are there Trump commercials in Ohio?
I feel like he will lose because he doesnt run any commercials. Its like letting someone kick you and you just lay there taking it.
He's had issues with advertising the entire election. I've seen some Trump ads, but I'd put it to a ratio of 2:1 being very generous. It might be 3:1 in favor of Hillary in ads.
They dont broadcast any trump ads in Georgia. But I see Hillary ads every day here. I think it will cost him the election because a lot of people dont follow politics.
They dont broadcast any trump ads in Georgia. But I see Hillary ads every day here. I think it will cost him the election because a lot of people dont follow politics.
I've felt the same way. As passionate as we are about politics, there are people who just don't pay attention and want to vote so they can get out of work for a little bit.
The Trump ad is basically Hillary talking about how Z"she always tried to tell the truth".
Both candidates are bashing the other over the head with the stupid things each other has said. There's a ton of material to go around.
*Sign* And these are the 2 best candidates we could find.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
It's odd, because here in NW OH the Hillary ads outnumber the Trump ads about 3-4:1 on TV, but you see many more Trump signs in the yards. This is an historically dem area, so it seems strange.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
It's odd, because here in NW OH the Hillary ads outnumber the Trump ads about 3-4:1 on TV, but you see many more Trump signs in the yards. This is an historically dem area, so it seems strange.
I suspect that's because of the Michigan overlap.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Most of my voting life, I've come down on the side of Republicans.
I've heard you say that, but since I've been on these boards (2001) you almost always jump to defend the liberal side of things.
From a presidential standpoint, this is my voting record
Carter Reagan Reagan Bush (HW) Perot Clinton Bush (w) Bush (w) Obama Johnson
If you are counting, that's 5 times for republicans, 3 times for Democrats and 1 for an independent and 1 for a Libertarian.
So, 5 out of 10 for Republicans, 3 for Democrats and once for a guy that related to republicans (perot) and one that was once a republican (johnson)
I'd say that constitutes most republican wouldn't you.
Yes, I come down on the side of liberal america at times. Why not, unlike some, I'm not brainwashed into believing that one party is smarter than the other.
Sometimes, like now for instance, I think both parties are full of idiots.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
it was interesting hearing the questions the mod asked these two guys. these questions really bothered me.
why? because these are the questions i wanted Lester to ask Trump and Clinton.
i mean these questions were GOOD. russia, syria, police brutality, etc. I loved it.
The two VP's. it was bland, boring, and straight to the point.
which is what politics is SUPPOSE to be. These two represented themselves very well.
so here's a few points i noticed:
1. i cringed everytime Kaine interrupted Pence. the entire time i was like "for the love of god keep your mouth shut!!"
2. i thought pence absolutely dodged a few questions, but to be fair, these were questions that were related to Trump. more on that in a bit.
3. People are crying about the Mod. i don't listen to any of that nonsense. you guys are ALWAYS gonna complain about the mod and "control". you're gonna say it again on sunday, and again the last debate. it's a ridiculous talking point which in no way affects the debate performance overall.
4. other than Kaine's constant interruptions, he hit pence with straight bars about Trump.
5. Pence did the same to Kaine with regards to clinton.
6. the respect and praise each of them showed toward one another with regards to their character was refreshing. they didn't mudsling each other. they went after each other on policy and nothing else.
So, that being said, it's a VP debate. so it's hilarious and confusing at the same time that people specifcally on this board said a month ago that nobody is gonna vote based off the VP, then all of a sudden after the debate, it now matters?
This is what i saw:
A. Pence
I saw Pence make a case for himself to be the main ticket in 2020. If we're talking about overall debate performance, Pence won, hands down. here's the problem:
For all the conservatives who support trump because they claim he is anti-establishment, not a career politician, etc, well....it makes them hypocrites seeing as the guy they are praising is pro-establishment, career politician.
and no, that isn't "balance" like some are trying to push off. it's confusion.
it's confusing because watching Pence on stage, i kept saying the same thing to my wife over and over again.
"if this was a Kasich/Pence ticket, i wouldn't even watch the debates, because they would absolutely slaughter Clinton/Kaine in a general election".
And that's how Trump ended up losing in a debate he wasn't even part of. Pence would not defend Trump. he avoided talking about his boss. Pence forgot a critical part of the debate performance: you're a VP, not the actual guy. Pence lying on stage saying that Trump didn't say those things when he absolutely did also hurt.
Pence not being about to defend the Trump foundation hurt. Pence not being able to defend Trump's foreign policy hurt.
Pence performed like a stand alone candidate, but he doesn't possess the puppet master ability like Cheney did with Bush. So it was almost a waste as Pence won't have any true influence if he gets into office as a VP.
and that's where Kaine comes in
B. Kaine
Kaine's facial expressions and interruptions were poor form. However, he performed as a right hand man should: defend the boss.
His counter punches and responses to Kaines accusations on clinton, especially on the clinton foundation was masterful. how he handled the abortion topic was simply amazing. the fact that he is a religious person, but angled it to still support the womens right to choose was a pleasure witnessing.
I thought he handled the police brutality question so great that Pence was put in a position to actually have agree with him live on stage. However, part of the problem was he attacked the Tax return situation far too much. some of the correlations were certainly warranted, some were of the "what are you talking about, kaine? please shut up" variety.
At the end of the day, people saw what they wanted to see from the debates.
From style points, Pence won. From substance and actual facts? Kaine won.
Both represented their party well. but only one actually performed as a VP, and that was Kaine.
Pence put himself in a position to strengthen his ties in DC. and that's fine, but the stances Pence took shows that if disaster strikes, he can wash his hands clean of Trump and not suffer any fallout over it.
Clinton chose a candidate who does their roll. Trump chose a candidate who showed why Trump shouldn't be the main guy on the ticket.
but overall, it was an awesome performance from two very high character guys. was nice.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Somehow, I have this odd vision of immigrants being led to the poles by interpreters (who just happen to be dems) and being told "just push this button".
This election could very well be determined by immigrants in this country who actually know very little about American democracy. Anyone who thinks this will not happen, think again.
Why has this been a record year for immigration? We have accepted more immigrants this year than ever before. And to think they are not going to be credentialed to vote is extremely naive.
Plus, if anyone thinks immigrants cannot become "legal" at the stroke of a pen, well, not sure what to say.
This administration has proven it will stop at nothing to have another four of Obama. If the steel dragon can do what she has done and get away with it, do you really believe a pen stroke to document an illegal is that far fetched?
It's happening. This adminisration will get those illegals documented and voting prior to Nov. 8. Period!
[quote=EveDawg]Has Trump even ran any commercials? I know Georgia isnt a battleground state so I havent seen many. Although there has been a lot of clinton commercials.
Are there Trump commercials in Ohio?
I feel like he will lose because he doesnt run any commercials. Its like letting someone kick you and you just lay there taking it.
He's had issues with advertising the entire election. I've seen some Trump ads, but I'd put it to a ratio of 2:1 being very genero
Yeah, 3:1 is about right. I do see a lot of ads pushing trump for President, but I'm not sure his campaign is paying for them. Not sure that even matters.
Clinton is out spending him in Ohio and I was just in PA last week and it sure seems as if she outspending him there as well.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Most of my voting life, I've come down on the side of Republicans.
I've heard you say that, but since I've been on these boards (2001) you almost always jump to defend the liberal side of things.
From a presidential standpoint, this is my voting record
Carter Reagan Reagan Bush (HW) Perot Clinton Bush (w) Bush (w) Obama Johnson
If you are counting, that's 5 times for republicans, 3 times for Democrats and 1 for an independent and 1 for a Libertarian.
So, 5 out of 10 for Republicans, 3 for Democrats and once for a guy that related to republicans (perot) and one that was once a republican (johnson)
I'd say that constitutes most republican wouldn't you.
I can only go by what you post here, I don't know who you vote for, and you sure don't share it here when you vote (R).
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Yes, I come down on the side of liberal america at times.
At times? You almost always take the liberal side. Anytime someone says something negative about Hillary, you're quick to jump on Trump. You've done that for the dems vs. reps for years and years. Yet when you post something slamming the right you don't match it with a slam on the other side. I haven't seen you say anything negative about Hillary except that you're not fond of her or something to that effect.
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Why not, unlike some, I'm not brainwashed into believing that one party is smarter than the other.
Sometimes, like now for instance, I think both parties are full of idiots.
Again, you sure can't tell by reading your posts.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
Donald Trump’s undisclosed tax returns are one of the breakout issues of this year’s presidential election. Last week’s New York Times investigation uncovered that the Republican nominee might have not paid federal taxes for up to 18 years after losing nearly $1 billion in a single year. The revelation came on the heels of the first presidential debate, at which Trump quipped that paying nothing in federal income tax “makes me smart.” He also told his audience that rooting for the 2008 housing collapse was “good business” and that he likes to “take advantage of the laws of the nation” when it comes to running his multiple businesses.
“I’m working for you now—I’m not working for Trump,” Trump explained to supporters in Colorado this Monday. In business, he said, “It’s my job to minimize the overall tax burden” and that he has “legally used the tax laws to my benefit … Honestly, I have brilliantly used those laws.”
Lynn Forrester de Rothschild disagrees. She thinks being able to “beat the system” is not a presidential quality. “He’s a person who’s gamed the system his whole life for his own ends. Now he claims that means he can fix it, but he’s never shown any inclination to fix it for anyone but himself,” the chief executive of the holding company E.L. Rothschild tells Yahoo Finance. “It matters why you go into public office, particularly when you’re the highest official of the greatest country on Earth.”
Rothschild is a long-time friend and supporter of Hillary Clinton. She even stayed in the White House at Clinton’s bequest during her honeymoon with her husband Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, a member of the esteemed Rothschild banking family of London. “I personally believe Clinton is better because she’s lived her life trying to figure out how to make life better for people who are struggling, and she understands how the successful can help the struggling,” she explains.
Clinton has been criticized for hobnobbing with the elite and accepting large checks to speak at bank functions. This doesn’t bother Rothschild. She believes Clinton will work to bridge the class divide in the United States by motivating to legislative branch to work together towards change. “She’s shown it physically, when she went to the Senate she worked with Lindsay Graham and all of the Republican leadership to get good things done,” she says.
And if Trump wins, Rothschild fears widespread market and economic turbulence. “Uncertainty is always bad,” even in the short term.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i feel bad for pence, cause he's stuck between a rock and a hard place.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Actually we get plenty worked up over Both of their actions.
Your deflection skills are beyond amazing.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Nah. You can claim that all you want. Doesn't mean it's true.
What difference does it make now ANYWAY?
It's just some vast right wing conspiracy, right? The truth means nothing.
Actually it is true. There isn't one liberal in this board who hasn't gotten upset over some of hillarys actions.
The fact that you're trying to tell me what I think shows you don't have much to stand on.
Keep reaching though. Stretching is good.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
And the fact that you ignore what hillary has DONE while in office tells me all I need to know.
You think she has any intentions of helping anyone other than herself? Delusional. She's proven it over years.
Flat broke coming out of the white house? Flat out blatant lie.
Dude, don't make me list all her lies.
What difference does it make NOW if 4 citizens were killed when they could have been saved? It was a video that caused the attack.
All the mysterious deaths surrounding her "at one time" supporters?
The Clintons cast a big net, and they control more than you can imagine. She/they, will stop at nothing short of her getting in the white house.
But go ahead, support someone that you know full well will use you and toss you out like a used napkin.
(and for the record, I'm leaving soon for a football game. And leaving early tomorrow for 2 volleyball games in Toledo, and coming home and working, then going to a basketball fundraiser. I won't be on much after this for a few days. In Columbus Tuesday, in northern michigan Wed. and Thursday, and in Nashville friday through Monday. I won't be "avoiding" this, I'll be busy. Just a heads up as to why I may not reply)
I'm not reading anything else in your crap post or any other nonsense from you until you stop you're horse crap accusations.
You started your post with a blatant lie. Yet you wonder why me and you have problems.
Kick rocks. We have nothing to discuss.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Even republican leadership is coming out slamming trump on that leak.
Boy oh boy.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
