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Do you really think there is any way he would re-sign with us?
I love the Browns and I wouldn't re-sign with them.

They could tag him.

0-16 a new low in cleveland.

Cleveland (0-10) has opened a season with 10 consecutive losses for the first time since joining the NFL in 1950.

The browns all time record 461-461-10. Next week we go below .500 for the first time in our history.

Las Vegas Browns?

Not much ... witch makes what Hue did even WORSE ...

He's a rookie struggling his ass off ... here's how a GOOD COACH handles things starting after last weeks game ...

At the presser ...

- Cody's done some good things this year and did some good things today .... were going to take those good things and build on them .... obviously as a rookie WE have some things to work on ... thats an entirely different message and sets up an entirely different ATTITUDE heading into next week as opposed to CALLING HIM OUT WITH SPECIFICS ....

- then Were stuck with a short week ... so you can only do so much ... i'm going to have one of my minions take al his good throws from the last two weeks and were going to go over and dissect them ... it wouldn't take long as there's not that many ...

Were going to do something positive ...

Then were going to take 3 or 4 bad decisions and go over them and see what we could have done different and WHY we made the decisions and how to IMPROVE THOSE DECISIONS ...

Do the same with 3 or 4 INTERMEDIATE THROWS HE DIDN'T MAKE .... cause that's where we need to go next ...

Then I'm going to let him know .. your my guy for the rest of this year ... lets take it step by step and look for IMPROVEMENT EVERY WEEK ... we have 10 days after this game ... take Friday off and U and I will get back to work on Saturday and go over this game and some more ....

It sets up an entirely different mind set in Cody ... MY COACH believes in me and hes got my back ... instead of ... OUGHT OH ...

And Hue needs to do it .. not his position coach .. not the OC .. HUE NEEDS TO DO IT ...

Hue's job is not to bash this kid over his head cause he's playing to his SKILL SET ... Hue's job at this point is to build the kids confidence and WORK WITH HIM on how to improve ...

HUE CREATED THIS and seems to be making it worse ... after pulling him .. Cody's DONE ... i'm not sure there's anything Hue could say at this point ... He has no credibility with Cody at this point ..

He threw a 22 or 23 year old 3rd round draft pick ROOKIE UNDER THE BUS ... u just don't do that ...

Can't say i disagree with anything u say .. u were rambling and all over the place ... kinda like a punch drunk boxer .. one square shot to the jaw for each loss ... *L* ...

Rough year .. taking its toll on everyone ... especially Hue ... u see his body language tonight from the opening kick off .. he started shaking his head in disgust right out of the gate ... did u see his face when they panned over to him when he was calling plays? .. he looked miserable ...

His entire sideline demeanor has changed .. and this is not a slam .. its not right, the players see and feel it .. and he's the leader, he has to be better than that ... but i get it .. this is brutal and its OBVIOUSLY taking a toll on him ...

His hands were tied having to play Cody .. NOTHING HE COULD DO ABOUT THAT ...

But how he's handled it PUBLICLY starting with the presser after last weeks game has been HORRIBLE ... not sure he could have done worse ...

And i'm not calling for his head ... but IMO he's been EXTREMELY UNDERWHELMING in more than one area ... and this is the BIGGEST ONE so far IMO .. and he's made 3 or 4 other pretty damm big mistakes ...

Good point.
I forgot all about that option

Season one game 10. Nothing more nothing less. This was always going to be a rebuilding season. If everything had gone perfectly we might MIGHT have won 3 or 4 games. Instead, we lose our one hope at QB in the first game. Then lose our backup in the second. Of course, we're going to be really really bad.

I like this staff. I think Coach Jackson can get the job done if given enough time to do so. We are in complete rebuild mode. This isn't surprising. WE have a ton of first and second-year guys trying to learn two complicated systems. Many coaches and front offices lose terribly their first year when they are in full boogie rebuild mode. Losing is factored in. Now we will have the first pick in the draft in each and every round. IF you make the right choices and I grant that with the Browns that is a BIG BIG IF, you can get really healthy in a short time. I think this coaching staff is made up of teachers and I know that is what we need if we are building through the draft. There are a lot of if's. However, it is way too early to jump ship. I like some of the guys we drafted this year, and we have a lot of high picks next draft. Stay the course, give this staff some players and THEN see what they can do. To me 0-16 isn't a bad thing, it's a necessary thing. Give us lots of options. That first pick in the second round is golden now that the format has changed. A lot of teams want to trade up to take someone there. What this team needs is talent and time. Not new staff.

We can tag either Pryor or Collins.

One of them gets a huge get out of jail card.

I think Pryor likes it here. I say we give him millions of reasons to stay. As long as Collins attitude is cool with staying and not a distraction... I'd pony up and give him millions of reasons to stay as well. He already makes this D better and he doesn't even KNOW the D yet. I just don't know what his personality is. As long as he gets along with the guys and coaches I say throw money at him.

If Collins does leave I think we receive a compensatory pick that won't be too different from the one we gave up... so we aren't out a lot.

Pryor is our best player. Imagine how good he will be once he learns the position better..... Has more experience. That's why this season doesn't bum me out too much. All those reps for all those young players are gold later on. Pryor is gaining valuable experience every week. Now that he is back, so is Coleman. They are going to be a really good pair of WR's in the coming years. I'd sign him long term the minute it was legal to do so...

We definitely have the available money.
We need to get one guy signed ASAP
Then focus on the other.
I'd like to have both signed before the season ends

There is no guarantee Pryor stays, especially if the team decides to make it's 50th change at head coach. He likes Hue, and if we fire him, I see little way Pryor stays. (voluntarily, anyway)

Why the hell would we fire him in year one of a rebuild. Losing is expected. Especially as bad as our talent level is. It is actually fortuitous we are this bad. The Niners have only won one game. If Dunderhead Jimmy fires Jackson he deserves to lose perpetually.

Should have stuck with Kessler. At least we would look like we intentionally tanked.

tag collins and sign pryor. they're the only two legit players we have.

Kirksey and shelton have improved ... and that's it

That was such a horrible display of football.

has nassib done anything since like week 6

Who did that? In that poll, I don't think there was a single prediction over .500.

Haden on a punt return. I think a clear indication he is on the trade block headed in to next season. Trying to increase his value.

Hue is feeling the pressure. Now he is making desperate decisions as he did when he pulled Kessler. We'll see how that decision impacts Kessler headed forward.

This.

Reaching for a QB at #1, just for the sake of taking a QB #1, will set you further back than taking the BPA instead of the QB. We need a QB, but we can't panic during the draft.

j/c:

RG3! RG3! RG3!

--We took a TO on the first play of the game because we had too many men on the field.

--We have two guys trying to field a punt after the first defensive stop.

--We take another TO shortly afterwards.

And that is just the beginning.

Some other thoughts:

--I ain't getting all this "feel sorry for Kessler" stuff. I am not geting the love for him, either. He's a backup qb.

--Collins made some plays.

--Kindred is even worse than I thought he was. He can't cover his shadow and he whiffs on tackles far too often.

--Is Cam Erving the dumbest guy in the league? How does he not see 300+ guys running right by him?

--I saw the Browns use all types of coverages last night, including Cover 6 and Man Press. It's not the schemes, fellas.

--I see our coaching staff taking a lot of heat, but no one is questioning the sanity of the plan that was put in place by Haslam and the FO. That is beyond belief. How is this plan going to work? Will the coaches survive two straight years of hardly winning any games? Will players want to re-sign w/a team that can't win and changes direction every couple of years? Will we ever attract free agents w/the current state of affairs? Will another good coach want to come here if we fire Hue? Will there be any player loyalty knowing what the Brown's FO did to guys like Dansby, Gipson, Swartz, Whit, Kruger, Mack, Benji? Can a team develop a culture of losing and then suddenly just know how to win?

--I don't know if it is possible or not, but for the last few weeks, I watch the Browns and think that Haslam wants to move the team to Tennessee.

It feels like we're the 76ers. We fabricated a team with the intention of being incredibly terrible for two to three years before building it back up the "right way". Problem is, when the 76ers did that, they created a new low watermark for NBA play. The consistent losing, the way they lost, the lack of professional talent, having no reason to try hard or watch and having little faith in the future could make the plan backfire. Meaning, you're never getting out of the hole now because it's too deep.

Don't think he can do that. I believe there is a lease with plenty of years left on it. I seem to remember it was a 30 year lease and we have about about 13 or so years left. So ultimately, that may be his plan, but it's a long way off.

Besides, I'm not sure that the losses have decreased fan support to any great degree. I'm still a big supporter and by the look of it, lots of others are as well.

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Nice communication between Drango and Erving.

How can they not get that right?

Erving basically blocked nobody.

Isn't that football 101?

And Drango looks like he was passing him off so he could block.... nobody.

True.

drango looks like he reacted 2 seconds later ... like his body was paralyzed LOL. trash

j/c

Erving had the stand up LB who ended up going into the right flat, but he had little choice but to acknowledge his initial feint towards the QB. If he hadn't, McCown would have taken it on the chin just as fast from the man he had to account for (the Mike call?). Sometimes the guy (Drango) just has to block the guy lined up overtop of him. You can't give up the inside at G anymore than you can at tackle. In Erving's shoes, Would you expect a guy to need more help with Jernigan/Williams or Za'Darius Smith?

not a good indictment on either/both of them with that play. Erving simply is not a starting OL ... teams literally gameplan to exploit him

Maybe he was doing the Mannequin Challenge?

I think Hue is spending too much time trying new things rather than getting good at a few things.

*LOL* ... that was your best post ever ... made me laugh ... Thanks man ....

Glad you laughed. I thought it was hilarious, but didn't want to be disrespectful. LOL

I gotta admit it was pretty good. Not my best work...a little rushed...but not too bad.

I like that you took that in stride.