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Brian Hoyer grew up on the next street north of my house. He may or may not have ever come trick-or-treating at my house on Halloween.

Very cool dude ... must have been awesome to have a cousin in the NFL ... good for u bro ...

Glad Natalie had a good time .. actually it sounds AWESOME ... meeting Payton and getting TY's autograph ... and they won ..

Could it have been any better? ..

Where were u that u got to meet Payton and get TY's autograph? ... how'd that work ...

We were first in line at the gates on the side where they come out of the tunnel onto the field.. Gates opened and we along with others ran like heck to get to that spot..

we were at the tunnel where they came up to us..That run damn near killed me....lol

She was so excited talking to Peyton she forgot to get his autograph..and he was literally looking at the thing to sign it. By the time she realised it ..his security guys had walked him away...she yelled and he turned to come back to sign it but they kept him moving..

*L* ... I hope Natalie appreciatted it ...

Damm man ... how did Dallas's D get so good ... they been HORRIBLE the last few years ... I know Lee staying healthy for the florist time in the last 3 or 4 years is big .. but man ... did they get good ... and Lee didn't make them that much better ...

It's strange watching a game that features two legitimate NFL teams. I wonder what' it's like to be a fan of a team that you actually expect to win each week.

Ahhh, 2007! What would it be like to have that again! It happened for the Cavs, The Tribe was in the Series, one day it will happen for the Browns.

Scott Tolzien looks like a future Browns QB.

They are overachieving, I can see them being bad again next year. We see teams like Dallas every year. I give them zero chance of winning the NFC.

We already tried to sign him off the GB practice squad ... he DECLINED. He decided we weren't good enough LOL

and the steelers were gift-wrapped last night's win. About as easy as a win gets ... and that's two of them in 4 days for them

Watching Big Ben play QB is a thing of beauty.

the way he can extend plays, improvise, and throw with accuracy is incredible

Yep, and man........he is constantly challenging the defense. It's like a boxer who throws overhand rights that knock you out on any one punch. Corners and safeties have to be pooping their pants when they play against him.

It really is. Sad for us Browns fans, huh? When will we ever be able to say that about our QB, whoever that may be?

Le'veon Bell is awesome to watch play too.

WOW ... there OL can carry them to the NFC title alone ...

That may not only be the best OL in football it may be the best UNIT in football .. barring injuries to the OL ... i think there HEAVY FAVORITES to win the NFC ..

Seattle says hi.

I hate the Cowboys, but yeah, they are playing the best ball in the NFC right now.

As young as they are they could be good for several years... I think they'll easily make the NFC championship game... Should be the Seahawks and Cowboys...

I think Cowboys have a great chance as long as no one on their line or zeke get hurt..me ill be interesting seeing how zeke holds up as the season and playoffs go..

Only if you are average or below average. Very good to exceptional players love the challenge and rise up to it...

Seattle will crush Dallas if they meet in the playoffs.

*LOL* ... thats a good one ...

If it happens ... any amount u want to wager ... well .. as long as Dallas's OL stays healthy ...

Appearantly U don't understand just how dominate their OL is ... or how good their skill players are ... they have a perfect mix running routes between Dez, Beasley and Witten ...

PS. Seattle's OL STINKS ... its worse than ours now .. there LT is only in his 2nd year of football since the 8th grade .. lets just say he leaves alot to be desired ... *L* .. and he's not even their worst OLman ..

I didn't realize Dallas' oline would be playing Seattle's...

Dallas doesn't even have the best DVOA in their division

*Ducks*

Apparently you don't understand Seattle has had the most dominant defense the last few years that we've ever seen. Those receivers would be stopped by the LOB. They also have pass rushers galore on the d-line.

I don't like that caveat of "if guys stay healthy." That's a fools bet. You can just argue they looked banged up when they lose.

Other than to be confrontational, what is the point of that post?

Diam never said any such thing.

What he was pointing out that putting pressure on the quarterback is huge in the playoffs. See how Denver and Carolina rolled through the playoffs last year. Both teams pressured the qb and protected their own. In the Super Bowl, Denver was able to generate pressure on the qb and that was the difference in the game.

Now, here is the connection. Dallas should be able to protect their qb better than Seattle. Also, they should be able to run the ball more effectively because they have a much better OL and a stud at RB.

But, you keep being snarky. Attitudes like yours adds to the quality of the board.

Since the Browns have no wagon at all and Largent has long since left the hawks, I'm going to jump on the cowboys bandwagon. At least then I can ride, not walk down the street, fist pump and holler "go cowboys" and 95% of the people will respond in kind. It'll almost be like I belong.

But if it comes down to the hawks vs. the boys and you want a wager, c'mon down to Oklahoma and North Texas, they'll be plenty of people lining up to take your money.

Don't bother with him bro ...

The next post he makes that makes sense will be his first ...

Guys like him and deputy are meant to be ignored ...

Ok ... out of curiosity i'll bite ...

What does dvoa stand for ..

Last year Denver had a better D than Seattle as did Carolina .. so your lying right out of the gate ...

Now go look at your stats and say I'm wrong ... cause that what folks that don't understand the game do ...

What I do understand is that the most dominant D over the last few years would be able to hold a 10 pt. 4th quarter league a mere 2 years ago in the biggest game of the year ... they gave up 28 points in the Super Bowl to NE ...

Yup, most dominant D we've ever seen ...

If there on the filed ... there healthy ... I'm not like U and Swish and the rest of the lib crew ..

I'm not even sure Seattle will make it to the championship game ... i sure hope they do against a healthy Dallas OL ... would be fun watching them get their asses handed to them ...

As usual time will tell ...

"Defense-adjusted Value Over Average" ... Paul DePodesta would approve.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

Thanks Dave ...

I don't even know what that means .. *LOL* ..

Guys like CHS and Paul need to spend more time WATCHING GAMES and making sure they UNDERSTAND what there watching means as opposed to putting numbers into a computer and coming up with a stat ...

BTW .. u best not duck .. u best fall to the floor cause i'm aiming for the nuts ... *L* ...

...what a dick move

We were all thinking about BB's praise of Jimmy G being more about elevating the trade value of the latter, but I wonder if it was more about the possibility of Jimmy G playing this week against the Jets?

Probably not, but just a thought......

It's cool man. No one expected you to read the link.

Ravens Commit Repeated Simultaneous Holding Penalties To Run Out Clock On Game's Final Play

Timothy Burke
9 minutes agoFiled to: NFL



The Baltimore Ravens successfully ran out the game’s final 11 seconds on fourth down by committing holding against all nine Bengals who rushed their punter, giving Sam Koch the time to meander around the end zone before finally conceding a meaningless safety.

The plan exploits a rule misapplied earlier this year in the famous CMU-Oklahoma State and Illinois high school playoff games: while a team with the ball on fourth down is effectively the defensive team from the moment the ball is snapped—they are, after all, trying to prevent the opposite team from scoring, the usual definition of “defense”—the “game can’t end on a defensive penalty” rule does not apply to them. That allows a team to commit intentional grounding or, in this case, holding penalties to run out the clock—something not in the spirit of the rules, but something football’s rule-makers have never addressed.

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Kudos to them for taking advantage of the rules.

It also looked hilarious.

It was like that scene out of The Replacements where they just started drop kicking and body slamming everyone.