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Might as well have this thread too...since that's what is likely to happen next. I don't really care who starts, but it simply cannot be McCown. Great guy...but he's D-O-N-E.

We HAVE to see what we have in RG3. I don't think he is THE guy and I'm not sure he's even A guy...but we need to find out.

I'm more worried about how many QBs we carry on the 53. We have (4) now...and would need to activate RG3. We need to IR one of the (5) or convince McCown to retire. I'd like to see the other (4) guys in camp next year + whomever we draft. I'm not sure there is much difference between the(3) guys not named RG3...so why not? I'd hate to cut McCown at this point in his career out of respect. My guess is they IR Kessler.

I would think that whomever we might cut would get picked up before getting to our PS. My guess is we IR Kessler.

4-12

Let's hope he's actually ready to go. He needs all the reps in practice he can get. This offense went through the entire training camp with the intentions of him being the guy.

The o line scares me a bit. But I expect to hit on at least a couple deep routes. Hell, maybe the run game will look better as well.

All we have is hope.

I only ask for 1 win (preferably against the Bengals or Steelers).. the rest, just make them close.

Rg3.. finish a full game, healthy and up right.

And Hue, use these last games to 'perfect' your offensive playbook for next year, and to get these guys use to those plays as well.

So, we're talking 4 games.

He's 0-1.

if he wins 2 out of 4, and stays healthy all 4 games, what happens?

If RGIII is healthy and ready to go, then I am all in for him to play...I know he can throw it down the field. but if he is not then to me its gotta be Hogan or Callahan.

would like to see him play and see what we have there.

might as well ... give him 2 weeks to get ready

I'm guessin' he'll be our QB to the end of the season, unless he gets injured again. Which is always a possibility with him.

Sorry, there is a limit of one miracle per person.
Please choose which one you prefer.

We're drafting a QB regardless. Maybe we don't do so with the 1st overall pick ... but we're taking a QB in the coming draft.

Maybe RG3 can play himself into position to open next season as the starter .... but that's about it.

I want Watson.

However, I brought this up before. If the FO is hellbent on building the team first, and since we have rg3 under contract for next season, then I want chad Kelly in the 2nd, possibly 3rd since he got injured.

I liked Chad Kelly more a month or so ago before injury .. plus he's a headcase from all accounts I've read. Is he talented? Yes ... not sure I'd draft him though

We should just run 100% before we end up killing one of these poor qb's.

#dead lmaoooooo ... im dying right now.. good one

and swish.. rg3s performance will not dictate what we do in the draft. just as last year.

he needs to start now that he lost his wallet

bring back johnny.....am i the only one?

We still have the same problem. He's fragile. That can't bode well for him or us.

Robert Griffin III - QB - Browns
ESPN's Ed Werder reports Robert Griffin III (shoulder, I.R.) has been cleared for full contact.
As expected. The Browns are off this week but return against the Bengals in Week 14. Cody Kessler (concussion) has also resumed practicing and will compete with Griffin III and Josh McCown for the starting job. Coach Hue Jackson will go with whoever gives Cleveland the best chance to finally win a game, though it makes sense for the Browns to at least see what they have in Griffin III as they near the end of a lost season.
Source: Ed Werder on Twitter Nov 29 - 11:11 AM

The Browns are going to have a legit shot to win their first game of the year when they play the Bengals.

I had been thinking that, but during the Eagles game I started thinking about how Wentz would handle Geno Atkins in his face... then I started wondering about our interior OL handling Geno Atkins. It wasn't an encouraging thought.

Though looking at his stats, he's been having a somewhat down season it appears. Anyone know if the stats aren't reflective of his disruption?

I feel like there's a double jeopardy joke in there somewhere.

Mum since his release .. as far as i know ..

He has not been reinstated. He still has to apply to be reinstated and go before the Commissioner.

Starting RG3 and Kessler puts them both in real danger as far as their future goes, that's how bad our offensive line is. I'm sorry, but McCown is probably done after this season (both from our team and probably the NFL), might as well keep him in there .... at least in my opinion. Kessler has already had a couple of concussions this year, and RG3 is like walking glass. Our offensive line will get one of them killed.

Our OL is not good, but it's nowhere near as bad as so many of you claim. Not even close.

Perhaps.... but we still have this: Six. SIX starting QB's this season. I literally cannot even remember all of their names. I don't even know if we're on our 4th string QB or our 5th string.

Occum's Razor says that the problem most assuredly is a constant outside of those Six.

Have we had 6 different guys to start games or 6 qbs to play?

Also, there are all kinds of factors that contribute to injuries. Guys leaving the pocket early. Guys not passing it and running. Guys holding the ball. Being behind by multiple scores and needing to pass. Teams daring you to throw and making a huge commitment to stop the run.

It's not as simple as just citing sack totals and injuries.

you can add freak injuries to that list

So you still actually want Cam Erving to play center?

His legit running ability should at least keep the LB's honest and up closer, which I hope frees up some better play actions and deeper middle of the field passes...We are terrible on identifying and picking up the delayed blitzes so his scrambling may help in that area as well...I bet he grooves better with TP a lot quicker that Cody did so be interesting to see how that pair work together...

And I hope he gives Barnidge more looks. Dude has been under-utilized this entire season.

Or last year was a career year and he is just an average player.

Maybe, but until we get consistent QB play, we will never truly know.

In the game day chat last week we were all saying how slow he looked ... wonder if he's hurt ...

Time for Robert Griffin to reward Hue Jackson's faith in him
10:49 PM ET
Tony Grossi






Ready, set, restart: Let’s give the Browns a mulligan on their first 12 games.


Why not? Reportedly, this is the feeling inside their headquarters.


Status quo is the new mantra now that the organization is “directionally correct.” Front office “alignment” is beautiful. Nary a text message from on high has been sent – or at least discovered -- second-guessing Hue Jackson’s game decisions.


Everyone knows the team had to go backwards before it could go forward. A self-fulfilling prophecy magnificently executed. At least the first half of it.


All those departed free agents? Enjoy your 8, 9, 10 wins. Big deal. We’ve got bigger fish to fry. Check the standings in 2020.


You see, 0-and-12 was a necessary, if painful, step in the process of turning this thing around. That’s been the message. You have to scorch the Earth, then put out the fire before clearing the rubble. What good are a few wins as opposed to the invaluable game experience realized by 20 rookies? So goes the argument.


The rewards will be realized in April when the Browns receive the utmost honor of choosing first in the NFL draft.


And the way Carson Wentz is imploding, that trade with the Eagles is looking like a spectacular heist, indeed. What suckers they were to think a rookie quarterback could win 13 games.


So now that everything is in perfect alignment, and the Browns’ bye is over, it should be time to get down to business.


‘Tis the season: As bad as September, October and November were, December historically has been the cruelest month for a Browns fan.


This is the month players have their valets idle their luxury car engines in anticipation of speeding out of town soon as their lockers are cleaned out. That is, those not already shut down on IR or stuck in concussion protocol.


The last Browns coach to capture the attention of his team in December was Eric Mangini. In 2009, Mangini’s team dropped to 1-11 after a loss in the first game in December, and then closed the season with four wins in a row. The success proved short-lived, but saved his job for a year.


Since then, these are the Browns’ records in games in December and January:


2010: 1-4.


2011: 0-5.


2012: 2-3.


2013: 0-5.


2014: 0-4.


2015: 1-4.


Organizational blowups and coach firings occurred after the 2010, 2012, 2013 and 2015 endings.


We’ve been told a blow-up won’t happen this year. The coach pretty much has said he has been assured of it.


This is good. Outside-the-box thinking.


So there should be no pall hanging over this team in the last four games, no nooses being measured, no distractions to keep the team from doing something really outside the box – like winning.


Change the narrative: The franchise’s “woe is us” mentality was reinforced when coaches and players lamented the lateness of their bye week.


Only Tennessee befell this same schedule quirk, and it’s no coincidence the Titans and Browns sported the worst records in the 2015 season. So the league schedule-makers didn’t figure either team to seriously threaten the playoffs. This back-handed slap didn’t faze the Titans, of course, who are 6-6 and in contention in the deficient AFC South division.


The late bye actually benefits the Browns in a year when the focus “is not on wins and losses.”


The late bye coincided with the final stages of healing of Robert Griffin’s broken left shoulder, enabling the quarterback to get up to speed and come to the rescue of his coach.


Jackson laid his reputation on the line for Griffin when he signed and agreed to resurrect Griffin’s lost game. I still contend that Jackson’s almost-fanatical zealousness for Griffin dictated the organizational trade-down draft strategy. "You can have Griffin. We'll take care of the rest," said the analytics crew.


Griffin’s injury in the season opener – resulting from Griffin running into a Philadelphia defender while attempting to run out of bounds – reaffirmed doubts about his dependability. It also set in motion the series of events that led to 0-12.


So now that Griffin is healthy again, it’s time to repay the faith Jackson showed in him.


Again, thanks to the late bye week, Griffin rejoins an offense that is healthier than it was in September – save for two starting guards.


The running backs haven’t even been listed on the injury report in weeks.


The Pro Bowl tight end is suffering from under-use and inattention, not wear and tear.


The receivers are in great shape. Rookie Corey Coleman, who missed six games with a broken hand, has been back for five games and hasn’t had to play through the proverbial “rookie wall.” Terrelle Pryor has been indestructible and spectacular, is improving each game, and is doubly motivated to drive up his free agency pricetag with a December contract push.


Fact is, Griffin inherits more offensive weapons than seen on a Browns team since 2007.


The only weakness is at the three positions directly in front of Griffin – left guard, center, right guard. But the left guard and center have been playing, and wasn’t this year all about getting young players experience? Besides, Griffin’s fresh legs should serve him well at this time of year. He’s the one who said he was “the only one in the [quarterback] room who runs 4.3.”


And the defense is playing better, too.


So there aren’t a lot of excuses for another winless December. They play two losing teams (Cincinnati and San Diego), a .500 team (Buffalo), and Pittsburgh.


If we’re going to give the Browns a mulligan on 0-12, the least they can do is win a game, or two, of their last four. Unless, of course, that deviates from their plan.

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/p...s-faith-in-him

I don't even have faith that RG3 will last a full game

RG lasting four games? With Cam? That is pushing Believeland to its limits. Fingers crossed.

We might be starting Occam at QB before the end of this campaign. Just wish we protected better and somebody in QBherd could get a ball out on time. Hellish to watch this sausage grinder with our line.

Go, Browns! Get one.

He doesn't need to last, he just needs to win.