DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Everything Else... Trump Russia Ties and Hacking of Election

Add Ruskie to the list ... guess since U called me STUPID being called a Ruskie is a compliment ... *LOL* ..

Lets see .. short list ...

Deplorable, STUPID, racist, lush, angry and now a ruskie ...

If Putin did do it .... all i got to say is ..

THANKS VLAD, next rounds onme .. *L* ..

Your squad said nuttin when the PENTAGON GOT SHUT DOWN FOR 2 WEEKS or when MILLIONS of military/federal employees had their personal info HACKED ...

But the DNC witch is NOT a GOVERMENT AGENCY gets hacked and all hell breaks loose ..

Oh .. and lets not forget .. it may have been cause DePo FELL FOR A 3RD RATE PHISHING E-MAIL ..

*LOL* .. U GUYS are funny as hell ... and i may as well play along as u have ZERO INTEREST in the FACTS or REALITY ...

WHAAAA ... WHAAAA ... WHAAAA ...

THANKS VLAD ... next rounds on me bud .. *LOL* ..

Takes one to know one.

Looking like your squad and their 8 years of whining are over.

you have a link saying that we didn't say anything about prior hacks?

cause you and squires keep saying this with no proof.

somebody who supports Trump talking about zero interest in facts and reality is beyond hilarious.

but whatever, if this is what taking your country back looks like, then have at it.

i wonder when the economy will tank again. 3-4 years? maybe you can ask Putin for a bailout since y'all are in love with the guy so much.

you're calling yourself a ruskie. i had no idea that was a slur, but hey, maybe you're using it as a term of endearment? more power to you. i don't use racial slurs though. but i understand that's the christian thing to do in america so, if that's cool with your squad then i'm all for it.

but you and others are definitely commie lovers. but it's not my problem. I'mma be good regardless. Let me know how that trickle down economics works out for you.

You're right Tulsa, when the right protests they just take over government buildings with backwoods militia.

I'm not sure who "you guys" are.. I've never been a fan of Trump, I didn't vote for Trump.. I will support him when he does what I think he should do and I will be critical of him when he doesn't.


There was an element of that for sure.. but not enough to carry him. He won because millions of middle Americans in all of the rural areas and small towns off the interstate hated and didn't trust Hillary.... Many of them were on the fence about whether to support Trump, right up until she called them deplorable, racist, bigot, misogynists.. Then after they looked up misogynist, they decided a vote for Trump was better than voting for that evil hateful bigot. Saying this was all about racism and bigotry makes it fit in a nice neat little box and makes it easy to explain but it's much much bigger than that.

Do i have a link to something that doesn't exist? .. *LOL* .. huh .. and here I've said on more than one occasion in between your insults towards me that i thought u wee a smart guy ... guess I overrated your intelligence ... *L* ..

Will tank again? ... ahhh yes .. the last 6 years have been so GREAT. Thanks to your boy oBUMa ,, yup ... the economy is HUMMING RIGHT ALONG .. ..

That damm Trump ... he's gonna ruin everything oBUMa did .. DAMM HIM ..

Stupid Comrade Donald ...

Bwaaahaaaaa ...

WHAAAAaaaaaaaaa

^^

Anyway...
liberals that are suddenly so big on the hacks didn't care about Hillary's private server

I didn't hear a peep out of any them pre-election about any of this.

Obama didn't start an investigation until AFTER the election.

So yeah, unless someone provides some information proving otherwise, I'm going to go with liberals didn't care all that much about the hacks until they lost.

j/c:

I didn't read the entire thread, but dang man, y'all aren't objective at all. The ferocity of the contentiousness is rather disturbing.

Oh, I have to add this..............the insults and one-sided commentary by both sides isn't helping either side win the debate. I started off reading quite a few posts by anti-Trump guys and their posts actually made me side w/Trump. Then, there were several posts that sided w/Trump and knocked liberals and I sided w/the liberals.

Y'all might wanna reconsider how to debate if you truly want to win the debate. Me......I'm just looking for the truth and I couldn't find it by reading this thread. I'll need to investigate on my own.

Glad you admitted that you once again pulled a statement out of your ass with no evidence to back it up.

I really could care less if you think I'm smart or a complete moron. It doesn't change the fact that you have zero proof that liberals didn't care about the hack prior to the election.

If you and squires honestly believe what's coming out of your mouths, then it should be really easy to provide some evidence saying that the majority of liberals didn't care about the hack.

And until you do, I'm just gonna chalk it up to you two lying and willingly spreading misinformation.

Obama economy was recovering and progressing. It was growing.

I mean Jesus. The conservative argument isnt that the economy wasn't recovering, but that it wasn't recovering FAST enough.

So guess what? Putin....damn, I mean Trump, has 4 years to make it FAST enough to your liking.

You, specifically you Diam, made a big fuss about federal spending. So your boy better not increase government spending.

You, specifically you Diam, made a big fuss about the national debt. So your boy better not add a dime to it.

You, specifically you Diam, made a big fuss about manufacturing jobs. Not that obama was adding jobs overall, but your complaint was specifically manufacturing jobs. So you're boy better bring a crap ton of those jobs back.

So here's the facts: your boy walked into a positive job growth, positive economic growth, and positive stock market growth. Y'all have control over the house, the senate, and now the WH. Soon you will have control over the Supreme Court.

You also have more republican governors than democratic ones.

So if your boy screws this situation up, you and the rest of your conservative squad better not blame trump or congress.

You better look in the mirror and blame yourself. And then you better vote for his ass in 2020. Because everybody told you exactly what was gonna happen, and you didn't listen.

At least you're giving trump a chance.

You say that as if I have a choice.

Like I said when dude won: I hope it works, at least from an economic standpoint. Of course I want almost none of his social policies to be implemented. But economics?

I'm on the same plane, the same flight as the rest of you guys. If trump crashes this joint then we're all going down together


That's why I'm so critical of this dude. We've seen this story play out already. And as of now, I have zero reason to believe this will be any different.

I suppose trump could do like every president before him and just add to the debt. You know, kick the can down the road. My guess is he will.

But if you hold him solely responsible, that would be ludicrous.

What he said is true though. The ball is in YOUR court. If things go bad, you can't point the finger at the other side.

What if things go well?

Sure you can. If you've learned nothing else you're certainly learned you can create a strawman argument out of just about anything.

Everybody? ... *LOL* ....

U libs aren't EVERYBODY ... I know u and your ego's think u are ... but your not ...

the KING of INSULT and DEFLECT is gonna hold little ole me accountable ... OH NO the HORROR ... now i really hope Trump does good ... BWAAAHHHAAAAA ...

U think this is a good, growing economy? .. GOOD FOR U Swish ... just shows how much u truely understand ..

WHAAAAA WHAAAAA WHAAAAA .... thats all u do ... WHAAAAAA ...

Is this English?

If things go well then give him 4 more years. Straight up. Besides I don't see a strong candidate coming in 2020 if Trump is having a decent year.

China and India have great, growing economies. Please keep that in mind, when discussing growth.

Why would it be ridiculous? I literally have spent the past 8 years watching Republicans turn Obama into their very own Boogeyman, yet literally idolize Reagan.

Because putting anything all on the president is foolish. Good OR bad. Clinton, Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2, Obama, etc. Putting everything on a president is dumb.

You can disagree, with me and my statement. That's fine.

I don't disagree with your words at all. I just question if you agree with your statement.

I absolutely agree with my statement.

How far back should I go? Obama care was a disservice to health care. Some people benefited - not many. And those that didn't have health care because they couldn't afford it, well, many of them still don't have health care.

All O's fault? No. Congress had a part in it - a big part.

Clinton's "great economy"...he had little to do with it.

Bush 2 and gas prices - Bush had nothing to do with the price of gas.

The war in Iraq - so many blame Bush. Congress voted for it.

O and the supposed improving economy - O didn't do it. And he blamed Bush for about 7 years.

Dude-

You are currently debating with...
(wait for it)


... BROWNS fans.
Dawg- our LIVES are 'Groundhog Day.' We exhaust wimps like Bill Murray.


Think about that for a moment.

Done?
Good.

Now you (and everyone else) know(s) why I stopped participating so heavily in these threads. It ain't about arch (love the guy). It ain't about any one of us Dawgs that see politics from a 180° P.O.V.

It's about Human Nature.

I share a handful of tribal memberships with these Dawgs. On most of those points, we'll almost always agree (e.g. Steelers suck, Ravens stole our Lombardi, Bengals are 'Cleveland Lite,' etc).

I live in other tribes on other issues. Some Dawgs will never even hear me when I speak for those tribes- because different tribes speak different languages...

...and 21st c. politics are lacking in bi-lingual (read: 'Bi-partsan') interpreters.

I've basically given up with political discourse, because I just hit the magical age of 60... and realized that my remaining hours are too important to waste on a tribe member who speaks 'Browns' with me fluently- but needs a "sign language interpreter" to speak to me about politics.

I have a dwindling number of days left to me. Convincing an 'almost stranger' that (s)he's wrong-headed about politics can't remain a personal priority for me.

It's why people procreate... and try to make younger/better versions of themselves. It almost never works as they envision it- but noone can deny that they silently, secretly wish/hope that their kid will be an improved replica of themselves.


Keep talking that talk, Swish.
I'm old. And tired. And all 'talked out' about this stuff.

I need you to be me- when I was young, dedicated, and could still raise my fist in the air.

After completing 5 decades of life, my old azz has learned one thing above all else: the people who oppose your views aren't your enemies- they simply haven't yet found a way to hear what you are trying to say to them.

I'm all talked out.
You're up.

Next man standing.

Why not? Obama has spent 8 years taking personal credit for every good thing that has happened and blaming Bush for every bad thing that has happened... Why can't that trend continue?

Yes you have...

Reagan was going to get us all killed in nuclear holocaust..
Reagan was going to have everybody but the most wealthy stealing cat food from each other so we could eat...
Clinton was a raging socialist who was going to turn us into Venezuela..
Bush 2 was a Nazi fascist who was going to use marshall law to stay in office even after his 8 years...
Obama was a Muslim who was going to institute Sharia Law...

Yet, here we are.. here we are following the same path of fear and hyperbole we have followed for decades that keeps us divided.. over that 30 year period we have seen some good and some bad from all of those Presidents (a lot of it based on your perspective) and I suspect this one will be no different....

I dunno about a nuclear holocaust or any of that exaggerated nonsense

I'm talking about recessions and economic collapses, which is realistic because it's happened multiple times already.

Happened under Reagan, happened under bush, and well.......

On the flip side of that, look who they followed in after the fact.....Democrats, think that might have had anything to do with it? It was doomed to fail years before the Republicans got in office. Yes this works both ways, it's just another way they have of keeping the We The People separated.

You can call it exaggerated nonsense now, it was absolutely not back in the late 70s and early 80s. The democrats did everything they could to convince the American people that Ronald Reagan was going to provoke Russia in World War III... and one of the sayings the left loved to repeat was, "I'm not sure how we'll fight WWIII, but we'll fight WWIV with sticks and stones"


You don't have to tell me bro. I'm well aware of the crap economy Reagan inherited from Carter and the collapsing economy Bush inherited from Clinton.. I'm also familiar with the housing crisis that was caused by some combination of all of them.

It's just all one cycle.

Reagan > Bush > Clinton > Bush > Obama

Just keep the wheel turning.

And happened under Clinton. The dot com bubble burst at the end of his Presidency, with each of the 2 major indexes losing about half their values, and the economy taking a hit as a result.

You mean like when the Bush Admin starts a war on lies and the outcome creates Isis that is eventually blamed on Obama? Or do you mean like when the housing market crashed during Bush's term and Obama takes credit for implementing a recovery bill that helps turn around a slumping economy and adding millions of jobs just a few years later? Or do mean that when a terrorist masterminded and carried out an attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon during Bush's watch. Then Bush took us into Afghanistan and couldn't find the terrorist responsible. Then 10 years later that pesky Obama took the credit for killing said terrorist?

All kidding aside what would you have given Bush credit for that Obama took the credit for doing?

I never said Bush did anything that Obama took credit for.... I said I've seen Obama take credit for everything.. and blame for nothing.

What a joke ... literally a joke ...

I wonder if any of u guys have ever had a single thing to do with or in the business world or even read a basic economics book ...

The lack of understanding/intelligence when its come to business on this board is MIND BOGGLING to me ..

Your correct that Bush created ISIS ... but oBUMa let her grow and prosper like no other before it ... capped off by oBUMa giving their leading backers 150 BILLION DOLLARS for the hell of of it ..

Do u pay attention? .. do u have any clue why ISIS became so powerful? . ANY IDEA WHAT SO EVER ....

HINT: follow the MONEY ...

I can't believe in the year 2016 that anyone is beholden to either party ... how can U be so blind to support one or the other DEN OF THIEVES ... thats all they are ..

Let's hope for all our sakes Trump is not the POS many of U all ready have him made out to be ...

If u think oBUMa, Papa or Baby Bush, Clinton (he actually did the best IMO while he was in office but then he did something that started the wheels in motion BIGTIME for where were at today) or Reagan were good presidents ... may god bless U ... u need to take the blinders off and look where were at today and WHY were here ...

And the worst one BY FAR ... is still in office .. he's done more to hurt ALL OF US than most of u even know due to your lack of understanding of BASIC ECONOMICS!!!!

We want oil.

That's the basic economics.

You didn't think Reagan was a good president?

You'd get lynched in the south for saying such blasphemous things. You know how your squad is when it comes to republican Jesus.

During Reagan's 2nd term is when i said ... hmmm, not sure what he's doing maybe its time for me to bolt this BS party ..... i waited till 1/4th into to papa Bushes term to make it official ...

Then i promptly voted for Clinton twice ... ya, the one you've called a STUPID commie lush voted for Billy the rapist twice ... cause i realize I'm not voting for my spiritual guide I'm voting for a LEADER ....

Lets hope the Donald turns out to be a good one ... hopefully "your squad" (my squad's this country .. what squad u on?) ... is pleasantly surprised for all our sakes ...

And we'll bomb the crap out of them to get it. Hope some of the commie lovers here don't mind seeing thousands more of their love ones coming home without their arms, legs, or worse,...in caskets.

Reagan will go down as one of the worst Presidents of all time. I wouldn't be surprised to see Nixon ranked higher above him in a decade.