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These are indisputable facts:


Hank Aaron's rookie season: .280 average, 13 homers, .447 slugging
Tyler Naquin's rookie season: .296 average, 14 homers, .514 slugging

These are facts. Given these facts, Naquin had a better rookie season than Hank Aaron.

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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
The sad truth is that not resigning Rajai Davis was not a mistake.

Every experienced Fantasy Baseball player will agree that it is highly unlikely for a 36 year-old to duplicate a career year. (2016 was the only time Davis led the league in stolen bases) Raj turns 37 this year.

And his on-base-percentage was a below average .306 (each of the last two years)

Extremely rare. A big drop-off in production is a virtual certainty.

All the same thanks Raj. And best of luck.



Wow, I had no idea he was that old ...

Still, one of the most memorable homers I can possibly think of:


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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
These are indisputable facts:


Hank Aaron's rookie season: .280 average, 13 homers, .447 slugging
Tyler Naquin's rookie season: .296 average, 14 homers, .514 slugging

These are facts. Given these facts, Naquin had a better rookie season than Hank Aaron.


No. Given these facts Naquin had a better batting average, more home runs, and a better slugging percentage than Hank Aaron.

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Aguilar hit 30 HR last year. I also am kinda surprised that he was DFA, I guess they just liked a lot of other guys better than him.

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Evidently we claimed a 1B/3B, Richie Shaffer of waivers from the Reds.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Aguilar hit 30 HR last year. I also am kinda surprised that he was DFA, I guess they just liked a lot of other guys better than him.

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Evidently we claimed a 1B/3B, Richie Shaffer of waivers from the Reds.


I'm guessing they got tired of waiting for him to produce at the big league level, but to be fair, he didn't get much of a chance. Oh well, they have earned the right to have fans trust these decisions so we will see how it plays out. I'm surprised we didn't work a trade given his AAA production, 30 hr and 92 RBI last year


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Aguilar hit 30 HR last year. I also am kinda surprised that he was DFA, I guess they just liked a lot of other guys better than him.

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Evidently we claimed a 1B/3B, Richie Shaffer of waivers from the Reds.


I'm guessing they got tired of waiting for him to produce at the big league level, but to be fair, he didn't get much of a chance. Oh well, they have earned the right to have fans trust these decisions so we will see how it plays out. I'm surprised we didn't work a trade given his AAA production, 30 hr and 92 RBI last year


Also, Aguilar was on the 40 man roster and was out of club options. The Tribe was going to have to make a move and Aguilar was highly unlikely to stick on the big-league club.

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Aguilar hit 30 HR last year. I also am kinda surprised that he was DFA, I guess they just liked a lot of other guys better than him.

Edit:

Evidently we claimed a 1B/3B, Richie Shaffer of waivers from the Reds.


I'm guessing they got tired of waiting for him to produce at the big league level, but to be fair, he didn't get much of a chance. Oh well, they have earned the right to have fans trust these decisions so we will see how it plays out. I'm surprised we didn't work a trade given his AAA production, 30 hr and 92 RBI last year


Reading a little more about him being DFA, and it seems as though he is seen as "all bat, no glove", and he might even be just a straight DH in the Majors. He's a big guy, who apparently struggles to play even an average 1B.

The kid we claimed is supposed to be a legitimate 1B/3B, with pop in his bat. It is kind of bizarre that he has bounced around as well though.


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Indians complete trade with Dodgers

Published January 30, 2017
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CLEVELAND - The Cleveland Indians Monday announced the following roster moves relative to the 2017 Spring Training roster:

- Acquired RHP Carlos Frias from the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange for cash considerations.

- Designated 1B/3B Richie Shafer for assignment.

Frías, 27, has spent his entire career to date in the Los Angeles Dodgers organization, compiling a three-year Major League mark of 6-6 with a 4.50 ERA in 33 games/15 starts (114.0IP, 123H, 57ER, 34BB, 75SO) since debuting with the Dodgers in August of 2014. He was limited to 47.1 professional innings in 2016 between Los Angeles, Triple-A Oklahoma City and Double-A Tulsa due to a pair of trips to the disabled list for right oblique impingement. His lone Major League outing in 2016 came on July 7 vs. San Diego, hurling 4.0 shutout innings while yielding just 2 hits to lower his career relief ERA to 3.50 ERA in 18 outings (36.0IP, 27H, 14ER, 10BB, 31SO, .201 avg).

He was signed by the Dodgers as an amateur free agent out of the Dominican Republic in January 2007 and began his career in the Dodgers organization that season. The 6-4 right-hander has one option remaining.

(Cleveland Indians press release)

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/01/30/indians-complete-trade-with-dodgers.html

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Well ... nice knowing you Richie. crazy

However, it wouldn't surprise me if he goes unclaimed again, and the Indians might bring him back on a Minor League deal.


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Claimed him just to DFA him?

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I would guess that we claimed him with every intention if keeping him, but then had the opportunity to get the pitcher we traded for, and since he was the bottom piece of the roster, he was the piece that had to go.


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Originally Posted By: ExclDawg
Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
The sad truth is that not resigning Rajai Davis was not a mistake.

Every experienced Fantasy Baseball player will agree that it is highly unlikely for a 36 year-old to duplicate a career year. (2016 was the only time Davis led the league in stolen bases) Raj turns 37 this year.

And his on-base-percentage was a below average .306 (each of the last two years)

Extremely rare. A big drop-off in production is a virtual certainty.

All the same thanks Raj. And best of luck.



Wow, I had no idea he was that old ...

Still, one of the most memorable homers I can possibly think of:



Thanks Excl.

That's actually the first time I saw Davis' game 7 WS homer.

Yes, one of the biggest homers in Indians lore.

I had stopped watching the game by then.

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Win or lose that was a great night for baseball. Hate to see that guy go. Lebron's reaction to that hit was awesome!


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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
I had stopped watching the game by then.


What.

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I had stopped watching the game by then.


What.


I did as well. My heart was racing and my stress level was off the charts.


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I had stopped watching the game by then.


What.


I did as well. My heart was racing and my stress level was off the charts.


Well you guys missed one of the most awesome moments in Indians history. The best part was that it sort of came out of nowhere. Raiji hadn't had a good series up until that point. We were clawing just to try and get back into the game as well. I was praying for something like a little bloop single. When he hit it, it looked like he managed to do just that. I thought he could maybe get a double into the corner, but when it flew out, I think I screamed louder than when Kyrie hit that 3-pointer against Golden State.

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I had stopped watching the game by then.


What.


I did as well. My heart was racing and my stress level was off the charts.


What.

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I really don’t like night games. Especially on work nights.

I’m an early to bed and early to rise person. An ideal start to a day for me is to be in bed ~ 7 pm and up at 3:30 am and exercise until 5 am.

Staying up past 10 pm disrupts my routine.

I’m envious of the west coast dawgs. Unless, you’re a night person, the east coast sucks for a lot of sports on TV.

Throw in the fact that it was game 7 of the world series and the Indians had a chance for their first WS ring since 8 years before I was born.

One of two things was gonna happen.

Either I was gonna not be able to sleep because of intense joy and excitement. Or I was not gonna sleep because of crushing defeat.

And I did watch games 5 & 6 in their entirety thinking the Indians were a lock to win the WS after their 3-1 WS game lead with 2 out of 3 remaining games in Cleveland. By game 7 my enthusiasm had waned. (especially since the Cubs were starting a well rested Ace and we were starting a beat Kluber.)

It would have been amazing. I was able to sulk quiet effectively when I watched the news the next morning. And at least I wasn’t dead tired.

Francona is doing his best to maximize the odds the Indians will be in such a position again this year.

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This doesn't make any sense.

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Hey cfrs, You do realize whether your watching the game on TV probably doesn't have any impact on the game's outcome. Right?

Unless...Nah...Couldn't be...


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I just do not understand walking away from watching my team playing in game seven of the championship series. That is very odd.

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None of this will matter in the coming World Series because the Indians just signed WILY MO PENA!

I [bleep] you not.

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I missed much of game 7 because ..........I had to get up for work the next day. Pretty simple.

I also only got to see 1 hour of the Sunday night game (was it game 6?). Why? I was at my son's house, in Columbus. Get this, he was up here. (I had to be at a place in Columbus at 8 a.m., so I drove down after the Browns game Sunday so I wouldn't have to leave Monday morning at 4:30 or so).

Just me, and my son's 2 dogs, as his roommate wouldn't be home til 1 or 2 in the morning. Oh, and a 6 pack.

Game came on at 8 ish. 9 pm sharp, sons dvr thing made the screen blank. "Your dvr is set to record 2 shows. If you wish to continue watching this show you must cancel one of the recordings."

I was so, so tempted to delete/cancel one. But, I didn't. Him letting me stay there saved me getting a hotel room. So, 2 beers into the world series, I took his dogs out, and was in bed by 9:15.

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I just do not understand walking away from watching my team playing in game seven of the championship series. That is very odd.


Each game or series is a different set of rules for me. I didn't watch the Cavs final three games live because I was being superstitious. I watched the first four and then announced I wasn't going to watch another minute, no matter what happened. So I couldn't turn it on. Heck, you guys were telling me to throw my TVs out the window so I couldn't ruin it (though, you all were joking and wanted me to turn it on anyway). We ended up winning.

For the Indians, I was watching every pitch until we lost game 5. I got super nervous and watched game 6 on a 5-10 minute delay, but that was the blowout game. And for game 7, I tried, I really did. We got down and I started getting super tense. My heart was racing, my stomach was churning and I had to take a break. I have a bowel condition where I need to take a step away from stress. I heard the homer reaction because the people above and below me starting swearing and banging on things. From there, I put my headphones on and tried to relax...until I saw fireworks going off a few blocks from me and I knew it was over.

For the Browns, I can usually watch and be calm. Heck, we haven't had too many tense and meaningful games for a while. Hopefully that changes.


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quote by cfrs:

"I just do not understand walking away from watching my team playing in game seven of the championship series. That is very odd."

This coming from someone watching the 2016 World Series game seven that started at what?

5 PM local time.

Yeah, you're a real martyr.

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It is nice. I still don't see a way I would not watch my team play in game seven.

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Indians signed LH reliever Boone Logan, per Ken Rosenthal. Good pickup, a matchup lefty makes this bullpen complete, IMO.

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/827243442623373313

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That's a nice get for the pen. He can be the situational lefty who comes in to get a single hitter, who allows us to be able to save Miller, who has the potential of going an inning+, for that wider use. I like this signing a lot.

They are really attacking the weaknesses in the roster makeup.


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That's a nice get for the pen. He can be the situational lefty who comes in to get a single hitter, who allows us to be able to save Miller, who has the potential of going an inning+, for that wider use. I like this signing a lot.

They are really attacking the weaknesses in the roster makeup.


Over on the Indians board they call him a LOOGY (Lefthanded-One-Out-Guy). Might be our best lefty matchup reliever since Paul Assenmacher. This bullpen is really stacked. Now we don't have to burn Andrew Miller in the 6th inning of a close game, when an Eric Hosmer is coming up with 2 outs and men on base.

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Now we don't have to burn Andrew Miller in the 6th inning of a close game, when an Eric Hosmer is coming up with 2 outs and men on base.


That is exactly when you should use Miller.

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Now we don't have to burn Andrew Miller in the 6th inning of a close game, when an Eric Hosmer is coming up with 2 outs and men on base.


That is exactly when you should use Miller.


But when you have 5-6 inning starters like Salazar and Tomlin, it gets late early. You could seriously burn out your bullpen by the all-star break. It great that Miller can give you multiple innings a couple times a week, but you don't really want to use him that much. He's too valuable later in the game. Logan gives you much greater flexibility to maximize Miller's value. Miller is too good to be used as just a matchup lefty.

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Now we don't have to burn Andrew Miller in the 6th inning of a close game, when an Eric Hosmer is coming up with 2 outs and men on base.


That is exactly when you should use Miller.


But when you have 5-6 inning starters like Salazar and Tomlin, it gets late early. You could seriously burn out your bullpen by the all-star break. It great that Miller can give you multiple innings a couple times a week, but you don't really want to use him that much. He's too valuable later in the game. Logan gives you much greater flexibility to maximize Miller's value. Miller is too good to be used as just a matchup lefty.


His value is the same in the sixth inning as it is in the ninth inning. He gets outs at crucial points in the game. Would you rather have Miller pitch with two men on in the sixth against the middle of the order or to start the ninth against the bottom of the order?

Miller's usage in the playoffs is how every team should use their best relief pitchers (just not the same workload). Deploy them when you need outs the most, not when tradition tells you to use them.

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Now we don't have to burn Andrew Miller in the 6th inning of a close game, when an Eric Hosmer is coming up with 2 outs and men on base.


That is exactly when you should use Miller.

Not if you have a 3 or 4 run lead and you only want 1 out.. or if you are down by 3 or 4 and you just want to keep it close enough... You bring in Miller if you want to get that out and then let him go for an inning.


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Now we don't have to burn Andrew Miller in the 6th inning of a close game, when an Eric Hosmer is coming up with 2 outs and men on base.


That is exactly when you should use Miller.

Not if you have a 3 or 4 run lead and you only want 1 out.. or if you are down by 3 or 4 and you just want to keep it close enough... You bring in Miller if you want to get that out and then let him go for an inning.


Obviously.

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If I trust anybody to figure out how to use a wealth of bullpen talent, it's Francona.... I questioned a lot of his moves in the playoffs and series last year but he proved me wrong time and time again... the bullpen just ran out of gas because of our lack of starters... but he got every inch out of them that he could.


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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
These are indisputable facts:


Hank Aaron's rookie season: .280 average, 13 homers, .447 slugging
Tyler Naquin's rookie season: .296 average, 14 homers, .514 slugging

These are facts. Given these facts, Naquin had a better rookie season than Hank Aaron.


True. Let's see how the next 21 go.


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Well, yeah there's that.

Only 741 homers to go. 26 this year to keep pace.

(There is one sign of trouble though. Naquin struck out much too much last season. In reality, unless Francona has some magical regime for Naquin to follow, unless Naquin develops, he'll be lucky to get 300 ABs this year.)

He did bat .296 so he's not a complete hoser.

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Guess what?

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Ugh, not ready.

I'm still inundated with Cubs World Series Championship gear every day I step out the door here. I want to puke.


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