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Your score is: 10086 (GRADE: B)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 18 (TENN): Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (B+)
Round 2 Pick 4 (CHI): Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A-)
Round 2 Pick 24 (OAK): Alex Anzalone, OLB, Florida (B)
Round 2 Pick 27 (K.C.): Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy (B+)
Round 3 Pick 24 (OAK): Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (B+)
Round 4 Pick 23 (OAK): Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A)
Round 5 Pick 32: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)
Round 6 Pick 10 (PHI): Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A-)
Round 7 Pick 21 (N.E.): Jake Elliott, K, Memphis (A)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

Your score is: 10234 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8 (CAR): Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10 (BUF): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 14 (IND): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 19 (T.B.): Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3 (JAX): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 16 (IND): Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 20 (T.B.): Noah Brown, WR, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 11 (N.O.): Marquez White, CB, Florida State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 8 (CAR): Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21 (DET): Dan Skipper, OT, Arkansas (A-)
Round 7 Pick 17 (WASH): Jake Elliott, K, Memphis (A)
Round 7 Pick 29 (G.B.): Kenny Allen, P, Michigan (A-)

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This low score boggles my mind. They must HATE that I didn't draft a QB bust seriously!!!

Malik Hooker as FS and Jamal Adams as SS by itself is enough to make it a draft for the ages.

But wait we have Derek Barnett for DE and Malik McDowell for DT to finish up the D-line so we are talking MAJOR Defense upgrade.

Gareon Conley and Marquez White could both end up starters at CB which helps our secondary a TON.

With COllins resigned that could be one godly defense!!!

Ethan at center or guard is a major upgrade for the o-line too. Man I love this draft =) I mean RG3 could always have a second coming =)

how did you get all those firsts?

I traded back and picked up a first, then i traded back again for a future first. I then traded that future first to move a second pick back into the first for this draft.

More than happy to have garrett. yet if I can turn one starter into 3 first round picks ... its hard to say no ^^

Damontae Kazee is the hardest hitting CB I've watched. He's just an "okay" corner, but I'd love to get him in the 4th or 5th round.

Really like Eddie Jackson. Reminds me of Landon Collins.

I looked at the Info: NFL Draft Game link and it says "Scoring is based on team needs, player values, and draft positions. It favors the user/computer selecting a player of need and rewards the teams that select players that may have fallen (become "steals") in the draft." So, despite the A+ grades for Adams and McDowell, if they weren't one of the three needs at the time, they didn't score as high as points as Barnett when DE was on the needs list. I agree, it doesn't make sense in reality, but I guess it makes sense from a game perspective.

My first draft after reading this was below, set a new high for myself by 600 pr 700 pts. I wouldn't be upset with this draft, but it isn't likely what any of us would imagine.

Your score is: 12099 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8 (CAR): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 7 (NYJ): Takkarist McKinley, OLB/DE, UCLA (A-)
Round 2 Pick 8 (CAR): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 15 (BALT): Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Desmond King, FS/CB, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Carroll Phillips, OLB, Illinois (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Erik Magnuson, OT, Michigan (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (NYJ)
2019 Round 1 Pick

Talk about A low ball score. 4 1st round picks and all but 1 A+ (A)


Your score is: 11805 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 7 (LAC): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Mike Williams, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 1 Pick 18 (TENN): Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee (A+)
Round 6 Pick 9 (CINN): Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee (A)
Round 7 Pick 15 (MINN): Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 32 (N.E.): Austin Rehkow, P, Idaho (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick (TENN)

lol my best is not even cracking 10,000

but I did get

Garrett, J. Allen, and Hooker in one draft..

You have to think not in terms of your paradigm, but theirs.

I would never draft like in the game.
Anyway they try to low ball you with some of their trade options. In that respect alone it's fiction.

IF that is all we got from a draft I would be dancing in the streets!

It also penalizes you I think when you don't accept trades but if you accept trades and end up taking weird player in the later rounds because like you don't know who ANY of them are at the point then it nails you even more for the one bad choice.

Well SS and FS are in pretty bad shape on our defense so I would say they are needs =P

Also in their paradigm, position trumps BPA.

ok this is what I did


Your score is: 8557 (GRADE: C-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 2 (S.F.): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M (A)
Round 5 Pick 32: Aarion Penton, CB, Missouri (B-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Carlos Henderson, WR, Louisiana Tech (A)

The accumulation of picks doesn't have an advantage either.

Example...

Your score is: 10699 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4 (JAX): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 21 (DET): Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 3 (JAX): Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Ryan Anderson, OLB/DE, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 24 (OAK): JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A)
Round 3 Pick 4 (JAX): Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 9 (CINN): Forrest Lamp, OG, Western Kentucky (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10 (PHI): Elijah Qualls, DT, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (ARI): Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan (A+)
Round 3 Pick 24 (OAK): Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson (A+)
Round 3 Pick 27 (K.C.): Chad Wheeler, OT, Southern California (B-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 12 (PHI): Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (A-)
Round 4 Pick 13 (ARI): Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (A-)
Round 4 Pick 19 (T.B.): Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 26 (K.C.): Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9 (CINN): Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 5 Pick 32: Dan Skipper, OT, Arkansas (A)
Round 6 Pick 27 (DAL): Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee (A+)
Round 7 Pick 7 (LAC): Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 9 (CINN): Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 7 Pick 10 (DAL): Matt Milano, OLB, Boston College (C+)
Round 7 Pick 28 (DAL): Austin Rehkow, P, Idaho (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

Or

Your score is: 11079 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 26 (SEA): Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 2 Pick 7 (NYJ): Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan (A+)
Round 2 Pick 26 (SEA): Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A)
Round 3 Pick 11 (BUF): Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan (A+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (ARI): Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (A)
Round 4 Pick 13 (ARI): Conor McDermott, OT, UCLA (A)
Round 4 Pick 15 (MINN): Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22 (MINN): Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (A-)
Round 6 Pick 11 (BUF): Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A-)
Round 6 Pick 22 (MIA): Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 7 Pick 1 (S.F.): Bryan Cox, DE, Florida (B)
Round 7 Pick 6 (NYJ): Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 15 (MINN): Austin Rehkow, P, Idaho (A+)
Round 7 Pick 22 (MIA): Cole Hikutini, TE, Louisville (B-)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (TENN)
2019 Round 1 Pick

lol that's awesome and yea i understand.

in this particular draft i was all in on defense.

my thinking was get those three guys and go all in on Glimore the CB from the Bills and whammo lol we have a top ten defense in my mind

I would use probably 4 out of our top 5 picks on defense. 3 minimum.

other than first round picks you don't want more than 2 of each and if you land a future first rounder trade it in for one in this draft. i often use round 5 through 7 as ammo to trade in that future first. I always reroll a new game until i get that first good trade for any extra one to move down.

whats interesting is that trading in a future first has the value of a top 15 pick it seems so long as you add some extra. lol but so many times i get the perfect trade and they nail me by taking the best players i need first lol

My top 5 players (in no particular order) are:

Myles Garret
Jonathon Allen
Jamal Adams
Malik Hooker
Solomon Thomas

I am not hopeful that any of them will make it to the #12 spot.
Looking at the scenario where all 5 of them are gone, the player that I am starting to lean towards is Ryna Ramczyk OT Wisconson.

ASSuming that he is healthy. I think that he is going to need hip surgery.
I was watching the UM-Wisconson game to scout Taco Charlton. Ended up, Ramczyk stood out. He owned the left side of the line of scrimmage. He would immediately upgrade RT then seamlessly move over to LT when JT retires.

If you want a pro style drop back passer, Brad Kaaya is a guy to watch.



He's slow as hell though.

He plays too intimidated for me. He really needs to loosen up.

Your score is: 11388 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10 (BUF): Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 1 Pick 19 (T.B.): Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

Kind of an interesting draft ^^

no CBs, eh?

I'll rephrase - the needs that they have set up for us. I agree with you, but they have 3 needs highlighted each time you pick...those are the ones that give you extra points.

atm they don't rank an a+ till pick 20 for some reason.

Your score is: 9537 (GRADE: B-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (D)

http://first-pick.com/NFL/Share.aspx?id=67e4534e-79c8-4d4f-92a9-d64b0d0c5649

Your score is: 9253 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (B)
Round 5 Pick 32: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: John Johnson, FS, Boston College (D)


http://first-pick.com/NFL/Share.aspx?id=40680a83-fcd3-4245-8771-842e62e5e0bd

ed: your two drafts immediately above are the two best (IMO) that I have seen here. I would be very pleased with either (still torn between Allen and MG) but tending slightly to the latter of the two. Nice work...

you wanted the most dominant D-line in all off football right?

Your score is: 10244 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 2 (S.F.): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 9 (CINN): Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (B+)
Round 2 Pick 9 (CINN): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A-)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

J/c

There is a lot I like about Barnett, but I want to see his jumps before I get too high on him. He has motor, bend, and hands, but I'm not sure about his explosion yet.

He has great anticipation, rather then a quick twitch, imo.

Your score is: 11271 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4 (JAX): Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 10 (N.O.): Takkarist McKinley, OLB/DE, UCLA (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 12 (N.O.): Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Erik Magnuson, OT, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 17 (WASH): Jerod Evans, QB, Virginia Tech (B-)
Round 7 Pick 17 (WASH): Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

Browns' 4 round Mock Draft:
Acquiesce to New England's desire to get 1st round “value” for Garapplo

1a- Myles Garrett- DE Texas A&M
Best player in the draft at a premium position. Just do it.

1b-12- Marshon Lattimore- CB- Ohio State
With two QB's likely in the top 10 as well as two other DB's (at safety) he slips

2a-33- Trade to New England For Garappolo

2b-52- Marcus Williams- S- Utah
Ball-hawking safeties always pull a premium

3a- 65- Pat Elflein- C- Ohio State
Erving does not appear to be the answer. Competition is needed badly.

4a- 106 (ish)- Trade to New England for Garappolo

4b- 140(ish)- Devonte Fields- OLB- Louisville
The inevitable fall finally stops here. We fill a need for Greg William's Hyper WOLB.

---Too far out of the loop to go past 4 rounds this year.

Taywan Taylor came in 2" shorter than listed, but his arm length and wingspan are longer than Josh Reynolds and his arm length is the same as Evan Engram.

He seems like the kinda of kid Green Bay drafts in the mid rounds and turns into a stud.

I think if they draft for Jimmy G. it would be after the draft and them seeing which QB's fall. I mean trub, watson, and kiz could all be gone by pick 12. Its way to hard to predecit what teams with severe qb needs will do to get one.

The Patriots will not want to trade Garoppolo after the draft. If they wait till after the draft teams will have filled their holes and his value will go way down.

Also, the team trading for him will probably want him early so they can have him in for OTAs and minicamp.

And after the trade deadline (mid/late Oct), his value will be minimal...

I don't think he lacks quickness it's just everyone looks slow out the blocks compared to myles.