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Chaos is unacceptable and the Feds may have to move in.
The focus in Chicago and everywhere for that matter should be
on the good people who are going to work and school and those raising their families. Their rights are being infringed upon.
Criminals, Gangs, and Drug Lords be damned! The Courts will be taking away their rights and locking them behind bars.

So what do you do about a place like Chicago? Some neighborhoods are like a war zone. That is meant literally by the way-- Chicago had more murders than the Iraq war had U.S. combat deaths during the same period, hard to believe but it is true.

To tell you the truth, I don't like either option. I hate the idea of what is happening in a place like that (and similar places) and I also hate the authoritarian idea of 'sending in the feds'. What do you do about groups of people who go around terrorizing our own citizens, when local politicians are unable or unwilling to do much about it?

Liberals like to throw around the word 'privilege' in the most ridiculous of contexts. One way I actually did have a great privilege is that I never felt unsafe in my neighborhood or at school. Any loud bangs figured to be fireworks, not gunshots. I probably witnessed about 1 fight per year in high school and none of them went beyond fist fighting.

It is possible to create communities like that, you know. Endless back and forth violence is not a foregone conclusion.

Alright 40, just remember the power you want the president to have. Especially when the next democrat is in charge.

And you remember the President already has that power and Kennedy sent Federal troops into Alabama to restore order. He was a Democrat!

Another fun law to discuss- Net Neutrality.

Reps will be thrilled at the thought of being able to limit the Internet of liberal sites. Until a democratic president comes in to power and shuts down every conservative website on the internet.

I can only go by what I witness.

So far you guys have called Trump every kind of liar but he just keeps hammering his ink pen, signing into action everything he said he would. Taking America back, step by step by step.

Today we begin "The Wall" and stop the importing of Terrorists!

Oh, almost forgot, And "Making America Great Again!"

First we have to separate the real issue of net neutrality with the (false) idea of limiting the internet of liberal sites.

I am a staunch supporter of free speech. This includes a wide range of speech, including the most unpleasant ideas. It also includes peaceful protesting (but not destructive rioting.)

Donald Trump could not have won this election without the relatively free flow of information afforded by the internet. People can explore and learn things that they would not see in academia or mainstream media.

Keep in mind, Trump dominated online polls and internet engagement stats. Don't screw this up!

So are conservatives still gonna ignore the media blackout trump just ordered?

And there will absolutely be another democrat in the Oval. Can you imagine the broad powers that person will have thanks to Donald trump.. and what will republicans say about that?

Why did you post a blank page?

The next federal elections are 2 years away. An investigation into voting in this country can only come up with 3 different result:

1) No fraud exists.
2) Fraud does exist.
3) Inconclusive results.

I see nothing that would unduly create a lack of trust in the system. Appoint a few very respected investigators, from both parties, and investigate the claims of voter fraud, voter intimidation, any restriction of voting rights, and so forth.

If the results come back with no problems, then we can further trust the system. If there are problems, then we fix them. If the results are inconclusive, then we look at further actions to take.

None of these should cause distrust.

he's doing the investigation out of an ego trip because people are questioning the popular vote.

So?

If there are problems, then isn't it better to check, especially when there is no election coming up right away?

I think that there are a lot of people who worry about things such as voter ID laws being shot down, and so forth .... so an investigation doesn't cause any problems ...... unless there are problems that some people don't want to be found.

Frankly, I want my vote to count, as it should. Id there is any voter fraud, that causes my vote to be worth less.

I am curious as to what people will say if an investigation does find voter fraud.

You just don't understand your new President yet.
He is giving something to the Media where they really think they have him cornered. They will run story after story, yelling and pointing fingers, and while they are busy with that, he continues to wield his mighty pen, getting things done, out of the limelight.

Art of the Deal, read it.

So?

You got a president and his staff throwing hissy fits over crowd sizes and now votes, even though there's zero evidence of widespread voting fraud, which he's claiming.

if you're cool with that, then whatever, I suppose. I'm not.

Yes. I see it. And I find it terrifying. Selling us out to oil companies so that our land becomes the polluting ground for Canadian oil to be shipped over seas. Defunding the arts, which even Churchill kept funded during WW2, putting gag orders on scientific facts being disseminated by the EPA, and wasting American tax payer money on a wall that will continue to be tunneled under....and this is just the tip of the iceberg that'll sink this country.
But hey, maybe your alternative facts are different.

Well I know you don't want to hear it but I will tell you the truth anyway.

Leaking reports from the EPA or any other government agency was against the rules under Obama. You could be fired or sued. Trump
has strengthened those rules in order to provide one, factual report from each of those agencies and to prevent Scientists and employees with an agenda from upsetting the apple cart.

Some call it organization and leadership. Not you though.

Actually it's a well thought out distracting technic used to keep us all separated.

Now does anyone here remember when Jimmy Carter was elected, and he was investigated for 6 mo's by the republican's about his completely legitimate peanut farm business that he was basically forced to give up and sell off the entire lot. All of it. Probably not.

Swish, weren't you one of the one's jumping up and down mad about how the Russkies were interfering with our voting? And now Trump wants to expose the fraud and all of the sudden your against it? You can't have one without the other, I like how all the news media is against this all of the sudden. How was this disproved? What happened to the state that had 8.3 million votes but only had 8 million voters? People wanted to fry Trump about Russia but now that he wants to expose the fraud in voting, nobody wants that to happen? What happened to burn the house down Russia?

???

Quote me on saying that Russian interfered with the actual election votes.

This is why reading is fundamental, folks. Clearly, Arch can't read either since he liked this post.

I never said anything about Russians hacking our votes. Not once.

Y'all are funny. Sup with y'all conservatives and making crap up all the time?

Is this to be expected for the next 4 years?

Where were you when this was all about the Russians? Oh I see it was because it looked like they were trying to help Trump, Now that has been debunked, were going to weed out the fraud in votes but you think it's silly now? Oh I see it's because it may really help Trump, showing the people about how voter fraud works. Just admit it dude, there is no pleasing you.

I can read. I've been doing it for a long time.

How many times did you and 40 go around and around about Russia, even calling him a Putin Lover? How many posts did you have about Russia trying to influence the election?

I specifically said the Russians tried to interfere with our election season, as in propaganda, the leaked files, the pro Russian trolls in comment sections throughout our media, etc.

I never said anything about the actual voting booth, which is what trump is going after, actual voting fraud.

Try again, sweet heart. I see you're already using #alternativefacts.

Man bro, I thought you was better than that. Guess not.

I still have not seen any good evidence that the Russians were behind the Podesta emails and other leaks, but some people seem to be taking it as fact. So be it.

Let's say that they were behind those Podesta leaks. Now the argument goes something like, "Darn those Russians for rigging our election by exposing emails from the DNC about rigging our election!"

You may want to rethink this argument.

Rethink what?

How many different ways must this be explained to you?

It doesn't matter WHO they hacked. It doesn't matter if the Russians hacked the secret recipe for KFC in order for Popeyes to get a leg up. It doesn't matter if the Russians hacked my MySpace account.

It's the fact that they hacked us, period. And that's a huge freaking problem.

Do I need to say that in Turkish? German? What language do I need to say this to you to get it through your head that the issue isn't Russia hacking the dnc, or the rnc, or McDonald's.

it's them hacking us, period.

To me that is the samething. It's all about the Vote.

Sorry you feel that way, I'm just speaking my mind and I know we don't jibe on somethings but I still respect you as a serviceman and a True American.

Peace Out

We're good, don't worry about it.

But to me it isn't the same thing. If the Russians rigged actual votes then we have a waaaaayyy bigger problem.

The russians, along with a whole host of other countries, hack the u.s. daily. Just as we do to them.

Heck, our own.........what department is it called? I can't think of it right now.........but they hack each and every one of us, daily. Phone calls as well.

Google does it. Yahoo does it.

So, why are you upset about the russians doing exactly the same thing we do, google does, etc.

Is it because of who/what has supposedly hacked?

So let me get this straight.

Your argument is that because we do it to other nations, we should tolerate it from other countries, especially during our election season?

That's some of the dumbest, weakest, spineless crap I've ever heard. Definitely up there in the top 5 of spineless, unpatriotic nonsense ever posted on this board.

We invaded Germany, so we shouldn't get pissed off of they invade us.

Unnamed Sources say Arch is right.

Nah, that's not what I'm saying. At all.

I have no desire to argue with you, really. It is what it is.

And, as you said in a different post, if they (russia, or any country for that matter) hacked the election, whoa - big problem.

If people are voting illegally, I happen to think that's a big problem as well.

If illegals are voting, I happen to think that's a big problem.

If dead people are voting, I happen to think that's a big problem.

That's exactly what you're saying. Because we do it to other nations, what's the big deal.

Of course you don't have the desire to argue with me now. I called you out on your crap and you have no defense.

God, we're about to be so freaking weak these upcoming 4 years. Not looking forward to it.

CIA black sites will be up and running again. To be fair, there's no way those things were ever actually "banned."

Man bro, a lot of people do not understand that if you torture someone, all they are gonna do is tell you whatever it is you want to hear just so it can stop.

I always found it funny how they drone strike/bomb people with actual knowledge, and torture the dogs who have no real information.

I'm confident that we have the best Hackers in the world.

I'm sure the U.S. has plenty of State Sponsored Hackers. In other words the hackers have virtually unlimited funds.



There's no doubt in my mind that the US is prepared to deal with this issue.

More so than any other country or "association".

I've never understood why people thought torture would work either. If any of us were tortured long enough we'd confess to being the masterminds behind the JFK assasination.

Dude, I don't want to, and won't, get into it with you.

I do have a lot to say. Doesn't matter, as you wouldn't listen to it anyway.

But, heck.

We get hacked every day. As a country, as individuals. Our country does it to other countries, our gov't. does it to other countries and even u.s. citizens. Your isp does it. They know what you, or I do.

Google does it, heck, any website does it, for the most part.

I checked out "Joe Louis Arena address" last week. I'm still getting e-mails, and my yahoo feed constantly has a JLA ad on it.

So, no, you didn't "call me out and make me not want to argue". I just don't want to. High road.

Yep, it's why it got banned.

I feel why McCain is definitely against it. Who knows better than him? Let's hope Trump wises up and just leaves that alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX1oi0igZ68