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I'm high on Barnett as well.
Your score is: 11084 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 2 (S.F.): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (A+)
Round 3 Pick 2 (S.F.): Chris Wormley, DT, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick

An A+ flush and score an A-

You lose points by taking Garrett because he is not a "need" plus you used up a future first so they ding you on that as well.

To get more points you need to not use future first round picks that you started with. It's ok to use the ones you trade for. You also have to get lucky enough to be able to draft a+ players that fill a need highlighted in green. It's very hard to consistently do that.

going fs after trading back, then using the new first rounder to gain Derek DE, then trub if he is there or trading back a little to get marlon CB always seems to net lots of points.

I often try to trade away late round pick to move up because getting an A+ on late round picks is a crap shoot at best.

Your score is: 11186 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8 (CAR): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson (A+)
Round 1 Pick 15 (PHI): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 2 Pick 13 (ARI): Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A)
Round 2 Pick 14 (MINN): Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (A)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

I wouldn't mind a draft like this especially if I could swap watson for trub ^^

IF we don't want Myles Garrett, we should look at Taco Charlton. He's the best run defender as a defensive end in this draft. He's a guy we could land at 33. Takk McKinley is another.

This scares me because it's the same garbage we've done for years. Pass on elite talent for somebody we think might be good. That's what bad teams do.

My guy Kpassagnon has been a beast at the senior bowl.

Yep, I'm thinking the same thing.

I'd rather draft Garrett then waste #1 over all on a second round or wrose quality QB.

Honestly they can't be that dumb. It's probably being said to lure a team to make a trade to move up and grab a QB. We could easily land another first round pick AND end up with Garrett at #2 or #3

Any scenario at #1 not involving Garrett, or a trade down that includes a 1st round pick next year, would [censored] me off extremely.

j/c:

Who knows? We're in smoke screen time where you can't take anything too seriously.

First off, I think everyone should read the entire article. That first line is a bit deceiving. He talks about finding the best player later on.

I did find this paragraph interesting from the article:



Why in the hell would he bring in RGIII [who can't process information quickly] and Kessler [who can't throw a football though a piece of wet paper] if those are the qualities that are non-negotiable?

Wentz?

blake jr?

Haven't had the pleasure.

I was thinking the same thing. Seems like he's almost learning on the job, perhaps learning from his mistakes?

Don't take what I'm saying as gospel, but I think Hue wants a guy like Deshone Kizer.

There's no "seems like" about it. He's definitely learning on the job. The questions is, with statements like that, is he really learning, or is he just lip flapping? Because his actions with QBs last year certainly don't back up this statement, and it makes you wonder, how in the hell could he not know that to begin with? So if he is indeed just figuring this out, then he needs to get it right. If his love for smallish Watson, the turnover machine is true as advertised, and he intends on drafting him and trotting him out in this division, we're screwed.

Your score is: 12268 (GRADE: A+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4 (JAX): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 6 (NYJ): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Adam Bisnowaty, OT/OG, Pittsburgh (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14 (BALT): Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 7 (LAC): Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

I think Hue really wants Fournette. He'd be his Jeremy Hill on roids.

He has the build of Jim Brown

Yup.



Kid is nasty.

I'd feel bad if I didn't post this. I am close to the Lebeau family, but this is not coming from him, his teams scouts or the family. Do not take what I'm saying as gospel please. None of it's really Earth shattering though. This is just coming from a personal source I trust:

That is all around disappointing. If we pass on Garrett or Allen and draft Kizer and Fournette I will have some teeth pulled and move to Pittsburg.

I am not sure if I can imagine a worse scenario of drafting Kizer and Fournette.

OMG........that means the Browns might do it.

Fournette can play, it's his attitude that gives me pause. If he had the same mentality as Watson and Garrett, it wouldn't be a bad pick.

He is not a three-tool back like Zeke. His drive is questionable.

I have said this before and I'll say it again..........I would not draft him w/in the first three rounds. I understand he'll get drafted way higher than that, but I just would not want him on my team.

Your score is: 8324 (GRADE: D+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (B-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (D-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (B)
Round 5 Pick 32: Davis Webb, QB, California (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A-)

My first thoughts were:

1) Garrett is a slam dunk, why spend a lot of time with him? Especially considering we have 3 months.
2) We're looking at Kizer if he falls into the late 1st. I would guess we'd trade up from 33 into the first to allow for an extra year on the contract.

This being said, I agree with you, that would be so disappointing if that was how #1/#12 played out.

With the talk of Kizer & Fournette, here's a draft that gives us both and still lets us take Garrett with the #1. There are no trades, and I tried to go BPA/need after Kizer.

Your score is: 10450 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Curtis Samuel, WR/RB, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (A-)
Round 5 Pick 32: Dan Skipper, OT, Arkansas (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Gerald Everett, TE, South Alabama (A)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

That's how we end up drafting a GIlbert in the top 10

Except Garrett's been in the spotlight for 3 years, and it is hard to find a bad word about him.

I'd at least interview him, but I don't think there appear to be too many potential issues (any really) that will require extensive digging.

If we're intending drafting anyone #1 I sincerely hope we do more than enough due diligence including but not limited to interview, personal visit, workout,dinner.. ..I'd ask Garrett to also clarify his comment about playing in the cold.

This regime will succeed or fail by this offseason and draft IMO. It'd be insane not to do everything possible to mitigate any risk or question.

Joe Thomas agrees. We can not pass on a better defensive talent for a gamble on a QB at #1. At least the with a defender, you will get something in return.

Your score is: 6859 (GRADE: F)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 17 (WASH): Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (C-)
Round 2 Pick 17 (WASH): Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (D-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (C-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (B-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (B)
Round 5 Pick 32: Erik Magnuson, OT, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (F)

In my world this would be an A+

I like this scenario even better;

Your score is: 6922 (GRADE: F)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 14 (IND): Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (B-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (C-)
Round 2 Pick 16 (IND): Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (D-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (C+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (B)
Round 5 Pick 32: Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (F)