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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
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I don't like the ban at all. I don't want it to happen at all.

I simply pointed out the facts. I know facts is something you rather have alternative ones for, but your boy is a scumbag. Period.

This is an absolute embarrassment.


So you don't like the ban. Do you like suicide bombers? You must have really liked 9/11? Maybe Boston Marathon? I could go on and on. It had to stop somewhere. America First!


Alternatively, do you like Jews dying in the Holocaust? What about Rwanda? This is what happens to 'refugees' when they have no 'refuge'.


Why does the United States need to be a refuge? Have you never heard that one bad apple spoils all the apples. The religion of peace has messed up all of the countries in the middle East. They caused the problem and we want to bring the problem here! Bringing them and their messed up religion here will not lift them up it will drag all of us down.


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Funny how you mentioned 9/11.

Saudi Arabia isn't on that list. Ya know, the nationality of the terrorist the hijacked the planes.

Could it be that Trunp does business there?

No, I hate the ban. Maybe I'm biased cause I have some middle eastern heritage, but I'm more at risk of dying by the hands of fellow Americans than I am of any terrorist.

And that's a fact.

Also, most muskims are peaceful. And no, nobody "spoils" the bunch.

Only your bigoted ass hatred does.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Funny how you mentioned 9/11.

Saudi Arabia isn't on that list. Ya know, the nationality of the terrorist the hijacked the planes.

Could it be that Trunp does business there?

No, I hate the ban. Maybe I'm biased cause I have some middle eastern heritage, but I'm more at risk of dying by the hands of fellow Americans than I am of any terrorist.

And that's a fact.


When you bring more here the odds will go up quickly.


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Not really. Muslims have been here for decades. You're just trying to justify your bigotry at this point.


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Did you see Kim Kardashian ether this right wing paranoia? It's funny, as an OSU student I have a much higher chance of dying by a school bus than an Islamic terrorist. Which is really weird since Ohio State has had one of the rare occurrences of a terrorist attack.

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Not really. Muslims have been here for decades. You're just trying to justify your bigotry at this point.


I am no bigot. If the immigrants go thru a proper vetted program and are found to have no terrorist ties and then apply to become an American citizen then fine let them in. We will welcome them with open arms. The problem is the process of immigration today is broken and it places my families safety at risk. It needs fixed. Criminals and terrorists should not be welcomed under any circumstances.


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Because you can't be the greatest nation in the world while watching innocent people get slaughtered.

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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg


Why does the United States need to be a refuge?


America has always been a country that promoted itself as a haven for people who were escaping religious or political persecution. It is a shame that so many are willing to turn a blind eye to the morals and values that this country has always stood for.


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Because you can't be the greatest nation in the world while watching innocent people get slaughtered.


We can not help everyone. There is many problems inside our own shores that needs worked out.


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They have been properly vetted.

And what is it with people saying the process is broken. The process already takes forever and a day. If anything it's too slow.

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Why does the United States need to be a refuge?


America has always been a country that promoted itself as a haven for people who were escaping religious or political persecution. It is a shame that so many are willing to turn a blind eye to the morals and values that this country has always stood for.



He might have a point. The religion of peace annihilated the original people of this nation while robbing them of every possession. Compared to the Holocaust, the religion of peace committed the worst genocide in the history of the world.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
They have been properly vetted.

And what is it with people saying the process is broken. The process already takes forever and a day. If anything it's too slow.


It is broken when islamic terrorists are committing terrorist attacks inside our borders.


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Having your application setting on a desk for two years is not vetting.

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You're just trying to justify your bigotry at this point.


Remember swish, this is one of the reasons why your girl lost.


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Well then it's been broken for centuries, as we've had white Europeans committing terrorist acts as well.

Gotta start getting them more, before we have another home grown terrorist act like the cinema shooter, abortion clinic shooter, Oklahoma City bomber, etc etc etc.


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You're just trying to justify your bigotry at this point.


Remember swish, this is one of the reasons why your girl lost.


She lost for telling the truth? Sucks.


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If the immigrants go thru a proper vetted program and are found to have no terrorist ties and then apply to become an American citizen then fine let them in.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Did you see Kim Kardashian ether this right wing paranoia? It's funny, as an OSU student I have a much higher chance of dying by a school bus than an Islamic terrorist. Which is really weird since Ohio State has had one of the rare occurrences of a terrorist attack.


We all have a higher chance of being killed in our own cars, on a ladder fixing our roof or painting our house or being shot by another American. This is what is insane about the paranoia people have.

That said....I firmly believe that as Trump's ban begins to target people who helped the USA and are now trying to enter based on a promise that was given (such as Swish pointed out) these people will become very angry and the hatred towards America will only grow deeper. The Muslim communities already here will begin to feel like the disaffected and forgotten communities in France and we could begin to have more desperate acts of terror simply because of how they are being treated and perceived. It is a DANGEROUS and slippery slope we are headed down.

Even our European allies (and our Canadian neighbors) are worried about the direction Trump and his cronies will take us.

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Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
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Did you see Kim Kardashian ether this right wing paranoia? It's funny, as an OSU student I have a much higher chance of dying by a school bus than an Islamic terrorist. Which is really weird since Ohio State has had one of the rare occurrences of a terrorist attack.


We all have a higher chance of being killed in our own cars, on a ladder fixing our roof or painting our house or being shot by another American. This is what is insane about the paranoia people have.

That said....I firmly believe that as Trump's ban begins to target people who helped the USA and are now trying to enter based on a promise that was given (such as Swish pointed out) these people will become very angry and the hatred towards America will only grow deeper. The Muslim communities already here will begin to feel like the disaffected and forgotten communities in France and we could begin to have more desperate acts of terror simply because of how they are being treated and perceived. It is a DANGEROUS and slippery slope we are headed down.

Even our European allies (and our Canadian neighbors) are worried about the direction Trump and his cronies will take us.


Are all liberals sissies!!!


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Let's be honest fellas, other than the 9/11 attacks, every attack since, while perpetrated by an Islamic extremist was done by a person that was either born here, or had been here long enough to become a citizen, other than the San Bernardino attack. She was here on a fiance visa.


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They just don't care.

They're minds have been made up.

At this point I have zero faith in conservatives. They will always find a way to blame black and brown people before they look in the mirrors as the reasons to their problems.


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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg


It is broken when islamic terrorists are committing terrorist attacks inside our borders.


To be fair, with exception to 9-11 all the acts committed in the USA since have been by American citizens. All were either born here or properly vetted and became citizens.

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They don't need to take this crap, they can go to Canada where they are wanted. Just like our illegals should move to sanctuary cities!

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Then you can explain why countries where trump has his businesses aren't affected by the ban?

Even though those countries have the biggest network of terrorism, while the countries on the list has very little to zero terrorism directly related to inside our borders?

I'll wait. Still waiting on someone to explain why Saudi isn't on the list.


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Let's be honest fellas, other than the 9/11 attacks, every attack since, while perpetrated by an Islamic extremist was done by a person that was either born here, or had been here long enough to become a citizen, other than the San Bernardino attack. She was here on a fiance visa.



You beat me to it. But, we were thinking the same thing with our posts.

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Let's be honest fellas, other than the 9/11 attacks, every attack since, while perpetrated by an Islamic extremist was done by a person that was either born here, or had been here long enough to become a citizen, other than the San Bernardino attack. She was here on a fiance visa.



If we are being honest we will say the entire religion is built on hate. Every country that has been effected with that religion is consumed with hate for Israel. The sunnies fight the shittites who fight the kurds, etc... ETC... ETC...


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Then you can explain why countries where trump has his businesses aren't affected by the ban?

Even though those countries have the biggest network of terrorism, while the countries on the list has very little to zero terrorism directly related to inside our borders?

I'll wait. Still waiting on someone to explain why Saudi isn't on the list.


If I had an explanation, I'd have given it. Don't we get a lot of oil from them also?


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Let's be honest fellas, other than the 9/11 attacks, every attack since, while perpetrated by an Islamic extremist was done by a person that was either born here, or had been here long enough to become a citizen, other than the San Bernardino attack. She was here on a fiance visa.



If we are being honest we will say the entire religion is built on hate. Every country that has been effected with that religion is consumed with hate for Israel. The sunnies fight the shittites who fight the kurds, etc... ETC... ETC...


Built on hate?

Where in the hell do you get your information from?

You guys are absolutely ridiculous right now. No wonder why people around the world think Americans are a bunch of idiots.


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I'll wait. Still waiting on someone to explain why Saudi isn't on the list.


I already did explain it to you on the previous page but as usual, you only talk.

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I know you don't have an explanation.

Cause if trump really cared about this, he'd ban those countries regardless on if his businesses were there or not.

Not only is this some bigoted ass crap, it's a massive conflict of interest on top of it.

Absolutely pathetic.


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Let's be honest fellas, other than the 9/11 attacks, every attack since, while perpetrated by an Islamic extremist was done by a person that was either born here, or had been here long enough to become a citizen, other than the San Bernardino attack. She was here on a fiance visa.



If we are being honest we will say the entire religion is built on hate. Every country that has been effected with that religion is consumed with hate for Israel. The sunnies fight the shittites who fight the kurds, etc... ETC... ETC...


Built on hate?

Where in the hell do you get your information from?

You guys are absolutely ridiculous right now. No wonder why people around the world think Americans are a bunch of idiots.


If they think that then why do they all want to come here?


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I'll wait. Still waiting on someone to explain why Saudi isn't on the list.


I already did explain it to you on the previous page but as usual, you only talk.


You didn't explain anything. As usual.


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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
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Let's be honest fellas, other than the 9/11 attacks, every attack since, while perpetrated by an Islamic extremist was done by a person that was either born here, or had been here long enough to become a citizen, other than the San Bernardino attack. She was here on a fiance visa.



If we are being honest we will say the entire religion is built on hate. Every country that has been effected with that religion is consumed with hate for Israel. The sunnies fight the shittites who fight the kurds, etc... ETC... ETC...


Built on hate?

Where in the hell do you get your information from?

You guys are absolutely ridiculous right now. No wonder why people around the world think Americans are a bunch of idiots.


If they think that then why do they all want to come here?


Cause it's easy to play people like you. And most people don't want to come here.

After recent events, that number continues to shrink. We aren't the beacon of hope anymore. Not by a long shot.


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Let's be honest fellas, other than the 9/11 attacks, every attack since, while perpetrated by an Islamic extremist was done by a person that was either born here, or had been here long enough to become a citizen, other than the San Bernardino attack. She was here on a fiance visa.



If we are being honest we will say the entire religion is built on hate. Every country that has been effected with that religion is consumed with hate for Israel. The sunnies fight the shittites who fight the kurds, etc... ETC... ETC...


Built on hate?

Where in the hell do you get your information from?

You guys are absolutely ridiculous right now. No wonder why people around the world think Americans are a bunch of idiots.


If they think that then why do they all want to come here?


Cause it's easy to play people like you. And most people don't want to come here.

After recent events, that number continues to shrink. We aren't the beacon of hope anymore. Not by a long shot.


Good. Then our immigration problem should go away soon.


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This country was built on immigration.


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You're literally the one whining about the handful of Islamic jihadists we've had this decade.

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This country was built on immigration.



Americans have no problem with immigrants if they go the proper steps to become citizens.

The problem is we bring in people from all over the world without extreme vetting. People are spilling over our southern border and off boats in the gulf. Then committing unspeakable crimes. There is a proper way to apply for citizenship. That step must be followed.


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