Report: Rule change in minors will put runner on 2B in extra innings 7:10 PM MT
With commissioner Rob Manfred focused on increasing the pace of play in Major League Baseball, the minor leagues have become a proving grounds of sort when it comes to the pitch clock and other ideas.
One of the focuses this season will be on possible solutions for speeding up extra-inning games.
Joe Torre, MLB's Chief Baseball Officer, is willing to try rules in the minor leagues that, one day, could be implemented in the majors. Yahoo! Sports, citing sources, reported Wednesday that MLB will test a rule change in the rookie-level Gulf Coast League and the Arizona League this summer that will automatically place a runner on second base at the start of extra innings.
A similar rule has been used internationally and will be in place for next month's World Baseball Classic.
"Let's see what it looks like," Torre told Yahoo! Sports. "It's not fun to watch when you go through your whole pitching staff and wind up bringing a utility infielder in to pitch. As much as it's nice to talk about being at an 18-inning game, it takes time.
"It's baseball. I'm just trying to get back to that, where this is the game that people come to watch. It doesn't mean you're going to score. You're just trying to play baseball."
Man, extra innings, runner on 2nd with no outs, 1st pitch, bunt, runner on 3rd.
I don't like gimmicks. Some it is sometimes fun to watch position players pitch. lol Either they come in and blow away the other side, or they get hammered .... but it's usually interesting. If they want to do anything, then make it so that a pitcher who faced only 1 hitter in the initial 9 innings can come back in for 1 inning, max, in extras.
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Each team gets a chance to score the go ahead run by starting each inning beyond the ninth inning with a runner on second base and an initial 1-0 count on each subsequent batter. Sacrifice bunts are illegal for the first two strikes on each batter. After the count on a batter runs to two strikes sacrifice bunts are allowed. The “foul bunt third strike rule” should be suspended for the first two batters in each half of each extra inning. Intentional walks should only be allowed if the batter elects to accept the intentional walk. The batter will need to make a signed declaration at the time of the fourth ball. Unintentional walks will result in the batter advancing to first base unless the bases are full. If the bases are full when an unintentional walk occurs, the runner on third base shall be called out on a “fielder’s choice”. In the event of an infield fly, the infield fly rule shall be invoked and runners will not be allowed to advance except upon a subsequent stolen base. The teams should alternate which team bats first in the extra innings. If the team that bats first in an extra inning scores a run, the team batting second should have a chance to tie the score in the bottom half of the inning. If the home team bats first in an extra inning, they should automatically be declared the winner if they score five or more earned runs in the top of an extra inning. Unearned runs do not count against the team batting second. Pitchers who previously pitched in the game and were substituted for, may reenter the game as a pinch hitter provided they take the field at a defensive nonpitching position for at least one inning. After one inning in the field as a nonpitcher the pitcher may then again pitch subsequent innings in the game. Either team reaching twenty or more runs is automatically declared the winner.
I get WTAM here in Tennessee before sunrise. I am sure that Bill Wills is probably ready for his usual week long, maybe two week, spring training broadcast from Arizona. Pretty good weather there this time of year, even if he has to start broadcat at 2AM local time.
LOL.....I know about the Cleveland weather and the drive in from Crocker/Bassett before I know what is happening in here.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
If you think games take too long, don't go to games. Or else just go for as long as you want to be there. But don't install some cockamamie college overtime rules that bastardize the whole thing. Just a ridiculous proposal all the way around.
Edit: replying to Squire's post about proposal to artificially shorten games, not you Rocky.
But I spent three hours carefully developing my proposal to "artificially" shorten games.
I swear you guys treat me like I’m nuts.
Just like my psychiatrist.
And my brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, my children, cousins, parents, the neighbors, my doctors, my teachers, bosses, friends, co workers, church pastor, acquaintances, landlord, mailman, store clerks, barber, dentist, guys at the bus stop and pretty much everybody else I come in contact on a daily basis.
Everybody should come to the plate with a 3-2 count. One strike your out, one ball you walk. They use a 45 second clock. After the third out the team has 45 seconds to sprint off the field and get the next batter into the batters box. The team going into play also only has 45 seconds to get their butts out on the field and be ready to make the first pitch.
Problem solved games will then be played in 60 to 90 min.
While we are at it lets make the LPGA play speed golf so we can save even more time while watching golf
Man, extra innings, runner on 2nd with no outs, 1st pitch, bunt, runner on 3rd. crazy
I don't like gimmicks. Some it is sometimes fun to watch position players pitch. lol Either they come in and blow away the other side, or they get hammered .... but it's usually interesting. If they want to do anything, then make it so that a pitcher who faced only 1 hitter in the initial 9 innings can come back in for 1 inning, max, in extras.
That is the risk you take when you burn an arm out of the bullpen to get one out. If the game goes deep into extra innings you will run out of pitchers before the other team does.. sorry.
It would be very detrimental in the long term to have a reliever go through his entire warm up cycle, pitch to one guy, then sit for an hour and have to do it all again.
Extra innings is not the problem in baseball, it's attracting viewers to the first 9 innings that is the problem. Hell I would rather they just adopt a hockey rule and if it's a tie after 13 innings (or pick another number), it's a tie.. Not advocating for that but it would be better than the other ideas I've seen.
I heard yesterday that 63% of all extra inning games end by the 11th. So maybe, it's not that big of deal. And an additional maybe, add the runner on 2nd in the 12th or 13th inning, to force a quick finish then. That might work for the regular season.
To me, I'd rather worry about the time wasted by the pitching coaches, managers & infielders when they visit the mound. I'd outlaw all of that BS, unless you're coming out to change a pitcher. You want to communicate, use signs. I'd also like to get the pitcher and batter ready faster. They both drag their feet between pitches.
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
That is the beauty of baseball. There is no clock. Each team gets 9 at bats if needed. Extra inning, each team get to send at least 3 batters to the plate. Tennis and golf are the only other sports I can think of, though in golf you can be warned to keep pace with the group in front of you or risk a stroke penality..not sure when the last time a golfer or group has had a penality stroke added for slow play.
Baseball is pretty much a perfect game. Look at the rules. They have pretty much remained the same for over 100 years. They shaved the mound down 6 inches after the 68 season. The AL adopted the DH. Fences move in and out a bit, but nothing gross. It's not like the mound has moved up or back or the basepaths have been shortened. It's still 3 strikes you're out and ball 4 sends you to first.
Football changes rules every year. Go look at old film clips. QB's could get near butt raped and a flag wouldn't be thrown.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I can’t wait to see who’s been invited to Indians Spring Training Camp.
I hope I can find this info online. I imagine The Plain Dealer will have this but online it might only be available to subscribers. If you come across this please post it.
A few players I can’t wait to hopefully see in camp.
A hopefully healthy Danny Salazar and Carlos Carrasco.
Recently signed 1B/OF Chris Collabello and RP Nick Goody.
Rookie Left Handed Pitcher Ryan Merritt. (You may recall Francona included Merritt on the Tribe’s world series roster. He still remains a rookie this year)
In 2016, Mejia's 50 consecutive game hitting streak was the fourth-longest in Minor League history and the longest in 62 years.
Umm..that’s pretty good and it’s certainly a “high pressure” type of record.
So Mejia’s in camp now.
Odds he’ll make the Indians opening day roster?
Not very good. He’d have to absolutely blow the socks off Francona. Both with his spring training production and his mental maturity.
He’s young; probably needs more seasoning in the minors. Francona will try to carefully develop this talent.
Odds he’ll make the opening day roster? 20-to-1. (5% chance)
If Gomes or Perez get injured. Still very low. 15-1. (7%). Francona would much more likely sign a free agent catcher or call up a triple A catcher.
Odds he’ll be called up during the year? 3-to-1 (33% chance)
He wouldn’t be in camp now if he wasn’t a good candidate to see action this year - Francona is certainly planning to really “get to know him” this spring.
Odds he’s the Indians “catcher of the future”? 5-to-1 (20%)
If you find better odds, bet the house. bet the kids. bet the mother-in-law.
There are so many positive possibilities going into this spring training for the Indians.
1) They’re talking like Brantley is either at or near 100%. 2) They’re talking like Salazar is either at or near 100% 3) They’re talking like Yan Gomes is either at or near 100%.
(I intentionally say “talking like” rather than “saying”. They are cautiously not saying “Oh, They’re 100%”)
and did they hide the controller to Bauer's drones
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I don't know who "they" are, but from what I've read, Brantley is not at or near 100%. He just graduated from hitting off a tee to hitting soft tosses. His big test will be when he faces live pitching and has to adjust that shoulder's position, mid-pitch, to the location its been thrown. No reason to be pessimistic (besides 50+ years of ridiculous happenstance), but the truth is he's probably weeks from being able to contribute, and even then we don't know if he'll ever be runner-up-in-the-MVP-Michael-Brantley again.
Michael Brantley takes full swings in latest comeback
Associated Press Feb. 24, 2017
GOODYEAR, Ariz. -- CleveIand Indians outfielder Michael Brantley took regular batting practice for the first time in training camp this year, a significant step in his latest comeback from a shoulder injury.
Brantley took 120 swings in an outdoor batting cage Friday as several Cleveland coaches and medical director Lonnie Soloff watched intently. Brantley had been limited to soft-toss workouts, but he was able to take full cuts against normal pitches.
The 29-year-old played in just 11 games last season as he was unable to make a full recovery following offseason surgery on his right shoulder. He had another operation in August to relieve tendinitis in his biceps.
Brantley has been pleased with his progress. The Indians are hoping he can make a full recovery as they attempt to defend their AL title.
An All-Star in 2014, Brantley initially injured his shoulder diving for a ball on Sept. 22, 2015.
This team stands a great chance of winning it all this year without Brantley. If he can come all the way back .... man, just that much more firepower.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Let's just say he's 100% come opening day.....where does he best fit in the lineup?
5th? Protecting Encarnacion?
3rd? Having EE protect him, possibly having Lindor/Kipnis moving up a notch and placing Santana 5th?
I don't think you want Brantley any lower than fifth in the order...thoughts?
I'm torn because I actually like Santana at lead-off, but ideally you'd like Kip/Lindor to lead-off; Lindor/Kip at 2; Brantley at 3; EE at cleanup; Santana at 5; Ramirez at 6; Naquin/Almonte at 7; Chisenhall/Guyer at 8; and Gomes/Perez at 9. I'm kind of expecting a regression from Ramirez this year, in which case you can flip him to the bottom third and slide Naquin/Almonte to 6. Ramirez is actually a nice #9 because then he's like another lead-off guy.
In 2015 Brantley hit .310 with 15 HR. In 2014 .327 with 20 HR. My guess is he will bat down in the line up until he gets his confidence built back up.
I will say 6th or 7th. Once he proves he is back both physically and mentally he will be back to batting 3rd in the line up. I would like to see a line up like this.
1. Francisco Lindor SS 2. Jsson Kipnis 2B 3. Michael Brantley LF 4. Edwin Encanarcion 1B 5. Carlos Santana DH 6. Jose Ramirez 3B 7. Tyler Naquin CF / Brandon Guyer 8. Lonnie Chiseenhall RF / Austin Jackson 9. Yan Gomes C / Roberto Perez
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That's a nice lineup. I would bat Brantley 9th until he shows that he is ready The change I would make after he shows he is healthy is batting whichever catcher 8th and Austin Jackson 9th in games Jackson plays in.
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