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If Hue didn't make those comments would you think he was afraid to throw deep from just watching the games?

Regardless of what Kessler can become I think he can certainly improve from his rookie season AND I think the local impression of Kessler is overly negative compared to his actual play.

Right now Kessler is a developmental QB.

I think that is a pretty fair assessment.

I am not expecting Peyton Manning, but I think that he still has room to improve.

Wow, are we really gonna bash this kid this much after his rookie season? How quickly we give up on players on here is outrageous. Maybe he never will be "the guy" but after a half a season how do we really know.

Patience is a virtue!!!

IMO

We take either Watson or Trubisky at the top of the draft.

you can't win the NFL without a QB, and Jackson knows if he doens't win some games this year his job is probably over, he isn't going to use the 1st overall pick on a DE and win 3 games next year.

I think Garrapolo will be a bidding war, and the Browns may have to give up #1 overall pick, at that point the Browns probably draft a QB....were desperate for a QB.

I think Garret would be a good player in the right system, if we even had an avg QB on the roster we would probably draft him, but i think Hue Jackson is very high on Watson...just a hunch.

I think they take Watson/Trubisky at #1 and then at #12 take the number one center available Pat Elflein center out of Ohio State. I think this would be a very good draft for us....it would address two of our biggest problem areas.

Then we can use FA and the 2nd/3rd rds of the draft to get some quality talent on the DL, and DB along with a Fa or two.

just my take, im not sure we have the luxary of taking Garrett and Jackson is no fool, he knows if he doesn't get a QB and soon he won't have a job her much longer.

If we trade for Garrapolo we might take Garret #1 or we trade out and address the OL for our new QB....going to be interesting to see what they do.

If we take Watson in the first, then we deserve 7 more years of bad luck.

not saying I agree with it mind you. Just saying don't be surprised.

I do think Pat Elflein center out of Ohio State is def worth the #12 pick overall and i would certainly rate him higher then any other player at that spot...def a very good replacement for Mack and should be on par with him in 2-3 years. A solid starter right out the gate.

Please...NO!

Agreed. There may be worse scenarios, but that one is horrible.

The first-pick draft has me wondering a lot of things, but wanted to pick you alls brain about one thing in particular.

When it comes to drafting oline, are we drafting for a potential starter, for depth, or both? I ask this bc I've had several mocks where Im drafting Elflein in the 3rd, but then a guy like Toth is available in the 6th, and most of the time my BPA. Would you consider a Toth pick be a waste if we already drafted a center.

I would rather draft Freeney (33) and move him to center.

Your score is: 12327 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 7 (LAC): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (A)
Round 3 Pick 39: Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 36: Noah Brown, WR, Ohio State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: DOnta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34: Corn Elder, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Carlos Henderson, WR, Louisiana Tech (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (LAC)
2019 Round 1 Pick

Just draft whichever QB is going to come in and lead us to the playoffs next year.

Everybody else does it.

Your score is: 11029 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 6 (NYJ): Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): TreDavious White, CB, LSU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU (B+)
Round 3 Pick 39: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

No. I think Toth is a good player.

I do agree with some that you can get good players in the later rounds at various position. I think center is one of them.

You may not get the all-pro player, but one who is very capable of helping you win.

Toth had a pretty nice Senior-bowl, he probaly helped himself in the Draft, whereas he was projected 5-6 round, I could see a team select him in the 4th.

An entire new team, plus another 1st for 2018:

Your score is: 10462 (GRADE: B)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 21 (DET): Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 1 Pick 23 (NYG): Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (B)
Round 1 Pick 25 (HOU): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Tim Williams, OLB/DE, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 10 (N.O.): Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford (A)
Round 2 Pick 15 (BALT): Charles Harris, DE, Missouri (A)
Round 2 Pick 17 (WASH): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 21 (DET): Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (B+)
Round 2 Pick 23 (NYG): Desmond King, CB/FS, Iowa (A)
Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy (B+)
Round 3 Pick 12 (N.O.): Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 23 (NYG): Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 3 Pick 25 (HOU): Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU (B+)
Round 3 Pick 39: Elijah Lee, OLB, Kansas State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Gerald Everett, TE, South Alabama (A+)
Round 4 Pick 36: Artavis Scott, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 5 Pick 31: DeAngelo Brown, DT, Louisville (A)
Round 5 Pick 34: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Jayon Brown, ILB, UCLA (C+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (TENN)
2019 Round 1 Pick

Drafting 3 centers in the 2nd round is definitely trying to address the position.

lol. Pocic & Elflein at guard. Especially Pocic. But yeah, there should be at least one good one there.

Having a hard time with this. I think we could get Elflein
in the 3rd round. Didn't he also only start 1 year at C? I know he was a 1st Team all-american at G. We just drafted a part time C in Erving in the first round, I don't like how that turned out.

Your score is: 10886 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin (B+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Dan Feeney, OC, Indiana (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (A-)
Round 3 Pick 39: Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (A-)
Round 4 Pick 36: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo (A+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado (A)
Round 5 Pick 34: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A-)

Your score is: 10415 (GRADE: B)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 17 (WASH): Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Haason Reddick, OLB, Temple (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (A-)
Round 3 Pick 17 (WASH): Fabian Moreau, CB/FS, UCLA (B+)
Round 3 Pick 39: Larry Ogunjobi, DT, Charlotte (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (A-)
Round 4 Pick 36: Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Jon Toth, C, Kentucky (B-)
Round 5 Pick 31: Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado (A)
Round 5 Pick 34: Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A-)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick

It's a good thing free agency occurs after the draft, that way none of these mock drafts will be irrelevant till then.

They are always irrelevant.

To the thread title: Myles Garrett. That's who.

It starts before the draft.

Either way these drafts are irrelevant....but fun none the less.

Kinda like that one !

I've been watching some Garrett Boles as of late and he is very athletic. He has horrible technique and hits the ground a lot, but I really do like his game.

1a. Myles Garrett
1b. could easily see us trading out of this spot. Don't really see a fit for us here, I'd say Marshon Lattimore if he's there. With a trade down could see OJ Howard, A QB, different corner, picks in the second or next year, Hooker if he falls.
2a. Obi Melinfonwu- athletic freak, the next Sean Taylor???
2b. Carlos Watkins- 3 technique
3. Will Holden- Right tackle
4a. Rasul Douglas- size and production
4b. Davis Webb- Developemental QB
5a. Josh Carraway-backup to Collins
5b. Donnel Pumphrey- returner/Darren Sproles type, underrated
5c. Alex Azalone- back up and evential replacement for Davis
6. Josh Harvey Clemons- box safety could be used like Williams used Barron

Free agents:

QB- Glennen- better then what we have right now
RB- Resign Crowell
Rex Burkhead- played for Hue
WR- Resign Pryor
TE- Luke Wilson- unproven but athletic
C- JC Tretter- good center till he got hurt and lost his job
DE- David Irving-can play end and tackle
DT- Dominique Easley- Played for Williams
DT/DE- Datone Jones- can play end and tackle
CB- Trumaine Johnson- Played for Williams
S- T.J. McDonald- Played for Williams

I like the look of a whole lot of that but I can't see Anazalone falling out of Day 2. He played well at the Senior Bowl and practiced well too. I can see him going 3rd round.
I'm also not certain on McDonald - I would prefer, if we are going safety in FA, to look at Hyde (GB). I also like Tretter as someone who can come in and compete for the starting gig.

Sproles and Pumphrey are very different body types. Sproles was a rocked up 5'6" 187# at the combine in 2005. He's always been very sturdy, just short. Pumphrey is simply slight at 5'9" 170#. That's a huge difference.

Thanx. I finally made a draft where I could select 'my guys' in a combination I wanted reguardless of the score.

Anzalone has had a lot of injuries that's why I think he falls. And McDonald is familiar with Williams.

I just meant how they would be used.

The more I think about it, the more I'd like to take BPA with our first three picks, take Mahomes with our 2nd 2nd, and BPA after that. The only way I'd want to trade out of the number one spot is to stay within the first 7 picks, and get a 1st round pick next year. A draft like this can make the team immediately better. The more I see of Mahomes, the more I like his upside potential. He has a lot to learn, particularly with technique, but he sees the field, but he's got size, touch, a good arm, moves in the pocket well, and he's a gamer. In this scenario, there's no Garopolo. I don't consider him far and away superior to Trubisky, Kizer, or Mahomes. To me, they're all projects worthy of a second round pick. Not interested in Watson really at all, unless everyone else is gone by the time we pick again in the 2nd round. I know it may sound crazy, but that's JMHO.

Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 39: Kevin King, CB, Washington (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (A-)
Round 4 Pick 36: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Nazair Jones, DT, North Carolina (B+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Carlos Henderson, WR, Louisiana Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 34: Corn Elder, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Sam Rogers, FB, Virginia Tech (A+)

Your score is: 10221 (GRADE: B-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3 (CHI): Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 4 (CHI): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A)
Round 3 Pick 3 (CHI): Adoree' Jackson, CB, Southern California (A)
Round 3 Pick 39: David Sharpe, OG, Florida (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (A)
Round 4 Pick 36: Davis Webb, QB, California (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: DOnta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee (A+)
Round 5 Pick 34: Michael Roberts, TE, Toledo (A)
Round 6 Pick 12 (N.O.): KD Cannon, WR, Baylor (B+)

I will give a crack it...

Re-sign TP, Crow, Patzor (I'd really like RT Ricky Wagner from Baltimore...but hes going to command more)

FA sign...CB Trumaine Johnson, SS/FS Tony Jefferson, DT Nick Fairley (wont command a whole lot, and played for Gregg Williams...1 or 2 year deal to stay motivated) WR Robert Woods (he isn't great by any means...but still better than Higgins, Louis, Payton combined...I dont see us drafting WR since our FO drafted 4 last year...and dont want to admit to error)

Draft:

1. Myles Garrett DE: Front four will read as follows...Garrett, Fairley, Shelton, Ogbah...that front 4 got a lot better...Nassib, Cooper, Bryant, Holmes at depth...Can still get better however.

1. Rueben Foster LB: (My hope is we trade down 2 slots to the Colts...and pick up their 3rd round pick and still nab Foster) Can play inside for us..if Kirksey moves to weakside...big upgrade in our LB department with Jamie Collins, Foster, Kirksey.

2. Jabrill Peppers S-Every year someone falls out of round 1...with all the rush with all the great safetys this year, one will fall in our lap.
Will pair nicely with Tony Jefferson...as our safeties were horrid last year.

2. Jourdan Lewis CB- I know...I know two Michigan DBs...But I like Lewis alot he stays with WRs and has some edge to him...Will probably be our nickel this year, and our starter the following year.

3. Pat Elfein C- Our biggest O-line need, as our C play has been ugly as of late. Elfein can play from day 1, and still be an upgrade to Erving.

3. Taylor Mouton OT- Patzor isnt great, and Joe Thomas is getting old. Patzor is more of a patch, and Mouton will probably need some time. But depth is key if either or any go down.

4. Jordan Leggett TE- Some great talent always slips to the very start of round 4...We need weapons and mismatches and to improve team speed. Barnidge is solid, and DeValve showed some signs later in the season...Leggett gives us a trio and utilization of ways to put bigger plays on the field.

4. Wayne Gallman RB- Alot of good RB talent normally rests in round 4 (Lamar Miller) heck even round 5 (Jordan Howard) Both are players I loved...I like Gallman and he'll provide us with a talented trio

5. Corn Elder CB- small and fiesty think Buster Skrine...alot of great secondary help this year...We have a ton of corners I know, and we always draft a ton of corners...so this will probably happen lol

5. Charles Walker DT- A well built specimen for our rotation

5. Chad Kelly QB- Browns will build this team up, or at least should. QB class next year will be much better...Most of this years QB class scares me, however next year will be better, so should we. Smart teams dont reach...Kelly will be a back-up...but hey with McCown gone, we need another back-up

6. Hardy Nickerson Jr LB- depth with great bloodlines

Why is Foreman from Texas ranked so low? I think hes one of the top backs in this years draft, well I mean he obviously runs too high...but I always thought he was a lock for the first 3 rounds.

That is one hell of a draft...Garrett and Adams at #1 will and 12 would be amazing...I'd have a draft party at those picks alone lol We need O-line help, and I do believe Cam Robinson will slide...Budda Baker definately fills a need at FS, Cant go wrong with a Center...And Quincy Wilson and Adoree Jackson are both steals in round 3...ditto for Foreman in round 5!

That website is wack. I played around with it a couple times. In one draft I got JuJu Smith-Schuster wr USC in the 5th round. In another, the Jets traded up to #2 to draft Zach Cunningham Lb Vanderbilt.

We play around and get these awesome drafts then wonder why the Browns FO can't do the same. Sets up unrealistic expectations.

For one, these mock drafts sites are really dumb. Also, this is one of the deepest running back drafts in awhile.