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We need to get our QB...with RG3 planned to start and Kessler a decent back up QB. The drafted QB would be able to sit at least for a while in the 2017 season.

Trub at #1 or Watson at #12, or pre draft trade for JG...I think those are our only options that will help us at QB.
jmho

Just spit balling here, but what about another backup QB on someones roster? I.E. Brett Hundley, could see him being good fit for what Hue wants to do with his QB. I know he hasn't played in a regular season game like Garrapolo, but could be considerable cheaper. He's looked very good at times in the preseason. There is potential there. If you can think of anyone else bring them up.

Yeah there is plenty we don't agree on and it's no big deal.

Jimmy G. has had great ball placement all through college and when he has played in NFL games he has shown he still has it.

See the thing about ball placement is level of competition has zero to do with it. You can either throw it to the right spot or you can't. Not only can Jimmy do it but he does it consistently and has been for a long time. I think it's very easy to trust that this part of his game won't suddenly go away if he puts on a Browns uniform. IF they can keep him on his feet for 2.5 seconds then that ball is going where he wants it to go and going there the way he wants it to go most of the time. Sometimes he gets too excited and overthrows a deep ball from time to time but all QBs do that sometimes

I wasn't being hyperbolic. I genuinely feel that way about his ball placement skills. Even before he was drafted I wanted him because of his elite ball placement. I mean he is just freaking good at putting the ball in the perfect spot. There have been plenty of pro scouts that said the same thing so its not like I am saying anything new here. I didn't avoid your question/comment at all.

.... The main reason is that he has superb ball placement. It's easily one of the best in the NFL IMHO.

There have been plenty of pro scouts that said the same thing

I'll have to go back to the Watson thread this week. I appologize because I just forgot about it. I didn't mean any disrespect.

Some thoughts from Josh

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/02/josh_mccown_says_jimmy_garoppo.html#incart_m-rpt-2

McCown has also been impressed with another quarterback -- Tyrod Taylor of the Bills. Hue Jackson just hired Taylor's former quarterbacks coach David Lee. The Browns will be interested if Taylor is released before his 2017 salary of $15.5 million is guaranteed March 11.

Accuracy:

Houston Texans Head Coach Bill O' Brien when asked what he looks for in a Quarterback stated: " Number one, and don't laugh, they've got to be able to throw the ball accurately. If you tell them to put it somewhere, they've got to be able to put it there, and they've got to be able to work at it to improve their accuracy." In 2013, Garoppolo had a 66% completion percentage. To put that in perspective, Peyton Manning last year had a 68% completion percentage in his record breaking season. As O' Brien mentioned, accuracy is a necessity for Quarterbacks and Garoppolo displays it tremendously.

Arm Strength:

The biggest knock on Garoppolo that has refrained him from being a top 20 pick is his arm strength. Garoppolo lacks the cannon arm that NFL scouts love. His lack of velocity will give defensive backs more time to break on the football. As a result, unless Garoppolo makes intelligent decisions, he will be frequently intercepted. Luckily, next to Teddy Bridgewater, Garoppolo is the most intelligent Quarterback in the draft.

Intelligence:

The biggest aspect that Bill O' Brien assesses in Quarterbacks is intelligence: "You're seeing man-free, blitz zero. You're seeing blitz zone, from the field, from the boundary. With all that, in my opinion, your quarterback has to be intelligent. He has to have a great football IQ. They've got to be able to make good decisions. They have to be able to be good decision makers." Garoppolo always seems to find the open man as he is adept at reading defenses. Watch Garoppolo's eyes in the Northern Illinois game. His head is constantly scanning through his wide receivers until he finds one open. Rarely does he stare down a receiver making it much harder for defensive backs to read him. Garoppolo is not afraid to check down to the underneath receiver. Instead of forcing a throw, he is fine with checking it down for a five yard gain. Another aspect where Garoppolo excels is keeping his eyes down field when the blitz arrives. Instead of panicking and take a sack, he often finds an open receiver or simply throws it away.

Size:

Listed at 6-2, 226 lbs, Garoppolo has average height and weight for an NFL Quarterback. He has 9 inch hands and 30 inch arms which are typical for a Quarterback. Quarterbacks like Drew Brees and Russell Wilsonhave had tremendous success in the NFL and both are smaller than Garoppolo so his size should not negatively affect his draft stock.

Release:

Another area where Jimmy Garoppolo shines is his release. He might have the fastest release of any Quarterback in the draft. At his pro day, Garoppolo had a private workout with 49ers Head Coach Jim Harbaugh. Afterwards, Harbaugh was asked what he thought of Garoppolo's release: "Quick release, yes." This is a great trait to possess because by getting the ball out his hands quickly, Garoppolo will limit the amount of times he is sacked. In 2013, Garoppolo was only sacked 19 times. To compare, Johnny Manziel who is known for his evasiveness was also sacked 19 times.

Athleticism:

At the NFL Scouting Combine, Garoppolo ran a 4.97 40-yard dash which was one of the slowest times among Quarterbacks. While having an athletic Quarterback is a benefit because it allows Offensive Coordinators to call bootlegs and Quarterback keeps, it is not necessary. Garoppolo makes the majority of his throws from the pocket where elite athleticism is not needed.

Pocket Presence:

Quarterbacks that spend most of their time in the pocket must develop good pocket presence. As mentioned before, Garoppolo was sacked only 19 times last year. He navigates the pocket well and steps up when pressured from the outside. But what is important is that while Garoppolo avoids defenders, he keeps his eyes down field looking for open Wide Receivers. His shuffles his feet quickly like Peyton Manning does which allows him to scan the field faster.

Leadership:

Quarterbacks are often asked to provide leadership not just for the offense, but for the entire team. The Quarterbacks in the NFL that do not succeed often never step into that role. But for Jimmy Garoppolo, he has been Eastern Illinois's leader for 4 years. He is very composed on and off the field. When he does throw an occasional interception, he comes right back with a brilliant throw.

Pro Comparison:

Philip Rivers: While Garoppolo is often compared to Tony Romo, I see a lot of Philip Rivers in him. Both are extremely accurate, smart and are leaders. Both often lack velocity on their throws. Rivers is one of the best Quarterbacks in the NFL so if Garoppolo shares his traits, it means he has serious potential.



http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/5/2/5671322/jimmy-garoppolo-scouting-report

Good read, Dawg.

Makes one wonder how he lasted so long on draft day cause those comments reek of Top 5 pick.

Go get this dude, Sashi.

Roses are red,
Bring RG3 back,
I'm telling you right now,
Jimmy G will be whack.

System quarterback, not sold on him at all.

System quarterback, not sold on him at all.

The point is we already have Garoppolo on the team. Kessler.

I'm wondering if swapping our 12th overall pick w/the New England's 32nd overall pick and also giving NE a mid-round pick, perhaps a fourth rounder, would be enough to get Jimmy G...

I'm wondering if swapping our 12th overall pick w/the New England's 32nd overall pick and also giving NE a mid-round pick, perhaps a fourth rounder, would be enough to get Jimmy G...

I'm hearing a lot of 2nd round being the magic number for JG.