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J/C Maybe the potus should just make all his hires take the fifth from now on cause that seemed to work for the last administration lol

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING


Don't forget how horrible it will be when the mole leaks our secret attack plans on North Korea and ten thousand Americans die in what they thought was a secret plan. Laugh now.


Mole leaks = Wiki leaks and Eric Snowden.


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Just asking with no malice intended. Which Obama hires pleaded the fifth in a court of law?


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Probably none, in a court of law. But 5-7 did, in the senate, to avoid getting in trouble and/or going to court.

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260307-8-...ofile-scandals/

http://thepoliticalinsider.com/pleading-...ring-a-scandal/

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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Just asking with no malice intended. Which Obama hires pleaded the fifth in a court of law?


Nevermind I found them.

1. Jeff Neely, the former Pacific Rim regional commissioner for the General Services Administration, pled the fifth on April 16, 2012 when Congress asked him to testify about overly-lavish spending on GSA conferences. He was eventually sentenced to prison for fraud anyway.

2. John Beale, a former official at the EPA, pled the fifth on October 1, 2013 when Congress probed into Beale's theft of nearly $900,000 worth of salaries and bonuses from his own agency.

3. John Sepulveda, a former VA official, pled the fifth on October 30, 2013 after Congress subpoenaed him to testify as to why the department spent $6 million on conferences in Florida.

4. Diana Rubens and Kimberly Graves, two senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs, each pled the fifth before Congress on November 2, 2015 when asked to testify about $400,000 they had allegedly milked out of a VA relocation expense program. They were eventually given back their jobs.

5. Greg Roseman, a deputy director of the IRS, pled the fifth on June 26, 2013, after Congress asked him to testify about why the largest contract in IRS history was awarded to a close friend of his.

6. Patrick Cunningham, chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona, pled the fifth when Congress asked him to testify about Operation Fast and Furious, which trafficked more than 2,000 guns along the U.S.-Mexico border.

7. Lois Lerner, an IRS director in charge of tax-exemptions, pled the fifth numerous times during Congress' investigation into the IRS' targeting of conservative groups.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Probably none, in a court of law. But 5-7 did, in the senate, to avoid getting in trouble and/or going to court.

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260307-8-...ofile-scandals/

http://thepoliticalinsider.com/pleading-...ring-a-scandal/


7 out of ?

also fast and furious started during Bush right?


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whew... thks Perfect you saved me the trouble , but point being, that move, ended the irs problem wouldn't you agree

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whew... thks Perfect you saved me the trouble , but point being, that move, ended the irs problem wouldn't you agree


The only way to end the IRS problem is to have a flat tax on all income for everyone including business and burn the IRS to the ground saving American tax payers billions each year. Then to save more $billions$, we give the USPS to the highest bidder. Or just give it to Amazon.com to liquidate as they see fit.

Then the EPA next. Saving even more billions. Abolish it. Let each state regulate their own pollution problems. If people want to live in a state that can't keep their air or waters clean or from being poisoned and won't vote for leaders that will help the environment and to keep lands free of seeping oil leaks and dangerous chemicals so be it. Enjoy your life there.


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Actually I meant the IRS targeting of conservative groups scandal, but I do like your position on the IRS and EPA

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The problem with states setting their own EPA type standards is the air they pollute and the water they poison effects the surrounding states too.


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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
The problem with states setting their own EPA type standards is the air they pollute and the water they poison effects the surrounding states too.


Hopefully the voters will choose their leaders wisely. Surrounding states can just simply sue the state that pollutes. The money pay out will have to come from their state tax payers and not the companies that pollute. That way the state tax payers will vote often and wisely so their taxes stop going to other states because they picked leaders who allowed pollution to surrounding area's.


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Originally Posted By: Riley01
Actually I meant the IRS targeting of conservative groups scandal, but I do like your position on the IRS and EPA


Yes I know. And thanks.


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