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just for conspiracy theory sake, a small part of me kinda thinks the lebron leaving was a wink wink deal with Gilbert, they both knew there was no way to make the team better without tanking, and no team with lebron on it could tank without it looking obvious. I think they also realized they didn't have the FO or the coaching they needed. Grant, while great and acquiring assets, couldn't really turn them into anything. I think Lebron always intended to come back after we were able to get some pieces to put around him.


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Theres a big whole in that theory written in Comic Sans font.


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Theres a big whole in that theory written in Comic Sans font.
you would think, but at the same time, it had to look legit to prevent collusion issues


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
just for conspiracy theory sake, a small part of me kinda thinks the lebron leaving was a wink wink deal with Gilbert, they both knew there was no way to make the team better without tanking, and no team with lebron on it could tank without it looking obvious. I think they also realized they didn't have the FO or the coaching they needed. Grant, while great and acquiring assets, couldn't really turn them into anything. I think Lebron always intended to come back after we were able to get some pieces to put around him.


I think that was the plan, I just don't know that Gilbert was in on it. laugh

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Cavs must have received my memo in comic sans


http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/...art_river_index

this is a low risk/high reward. He would easily become our best defensive Big, he's young, athletic so he can run the floor..if he can return to form, he would be the rim protector we need...He's a block machine


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Hopefully, he's in a better place mentally now.

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j/c:

Sources say Sanders looks much better physically today than 6-8 weeks ago. He's been on "protein binge" to add some weight/strength
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/834420211768053760


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j/c:

Houston expressed interest in acquiring Cleveland's Iman Shumpert in advance of Thursday's NBA trade deadline, according to league sources.
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/834454983105916928

More on the Houston/Cleveland trade talks: The Cavs want Rockets G Patrick Beverley in an Iman Shumpert deal, according to league sources.
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/834469469770559488


Our own @calvinwatkins reports that the Cavaliers, along with New York and Chicago, are pursuing Beverley, who wants to stay in Houston.
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/834470117215920128


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Beverley is the perfect complement to Harden. I don't see the Rockets giving him up.

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Sources on @TheVertical: Indiana assessing trade market on All-Star forward Paul George.


https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/834466982187716609

I know it is highly unlikely, but what if the Celtics somehow got Butler and George.

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i was hoping NOLA would grab PG13 as well. man would that make the Warriors sweat.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
i was hoping NOLA would grab PG13 as well. man would that make the Warriors sweat.


Boston makes the most sense. Those Brooklyn picks are crazy valuable.

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I like Beverly. He is a gritty player who brings some toughness to the line-up. He can also score when asked to.

He's battled some injuries this year and Gordon has been scoring for Houston........so, you never know.

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Lebron came back here because he saw what we had built


No disrespect intended, but I don't buy that one. Not for a minute.

I think LeBron came back here to rectify a wrong and cement his legacy as one of--if not thee--greatest players in the history of the NBA.
Absolutely he did, but he also saw what we had going and realized he had a chance to accomplish that and be back home


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so the sixers traded Illyasova for guess what..yeah another Center...yeah the process only works as long as you aren't stupid..which they quite obviously are


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It's like Matt Millen stockpiling wide receivers. grin

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What? Seriously? Which center?

Wonder if they are going to trade Okafor for sure now?

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Tiago Splitter. It almost seems like an expiring contract deal since he's injured right now.

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Thanks. And yeah, I just found it.

Seems dumb to me. Gotta be more to the story. Right?

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Draft picks and they weren't going to keep Ilysova in free agency.

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Richard Jefferson has a t shirt that says "Flat World Champions"

I love this team.


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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
Richard Jefferson has a t shirt that says "Flat World Champions"

I love this team.


They are the closest team I've ever seen, I believe that's what's making some of these deals we are trying to do so hard...don't want to mess with chemistry, more and more it looks like we are going to probably just wait for buyouts..which I'm fine with, my top two targets are Evans and Sanders..Everything would be fixed with those two and the bench just got 100x stronger especially when JR comes back


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I am very fearful of messing up the chemistry by getting rid of any of the core players, particularly if they are well liked and fit into the culture here which I think Shump does. For as sketchy as his offense is, he's also man enough to keep hoisting them without losing his confidence and he's our best on the ball defender outside of LeBron. What kind of incremental improvement would Beverly actually be? I just don't see it, but that's why I don't get the big bucks to make these decisions. But I would be disappointed in this trade.

Now the flip side is if Griffin thinks that Beverly can be a better on the ball defender than Shump on the likes of Curry and Thompson, then maybe you do it.

I don't know. This is a tough one.

This core is tight. When going into these playoff battles, those can pay dividends. Although I also think Beverly would be well liked pretty quickly.

Tough one.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I am very fearful of messing up the chemistry by getting rid of any of the core players, particularly if they are well liked and fit into the culture here which I think Shump does. For as sketchy as his offense is, he's also man enough to keep hoisting them without losing his confidence and he's our best on the ball defender outside of LeBron. What kind of incremental improvement would Beverly actually be? I just don't see it, but that's why I don't get the big bucks to make these decisions. But I would be disappointed in this trade.

Now the flip side is if Griffin thinks that Beverly can be a better on the ball defender than Shump on the likes of Curry and Thompson, then maybe you do it.

I don't know. This is a tough one.

This core is tight. When going into these playoff battles, those can pay dividends. Although I also think Beverly would be well liked pretty quickly.

Tough one.


yeah thats why i think we haven't pulled the trigger. Beverly is slightly better than shump all around but he also fills a need, we have a crapload of 2's, but he's (Shump) also BFFs with most of the guys here. Thats why I wouldn't be surprised to see us stand pat and see what is available at buyout...I'm thinking we are hoping Evans gets bought out. But you have guys like Jack and Chalmers/Cole that could be signed without sacrificing much, if we trade shump for anything, it'll be a playmaker


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Yeah, I'd much rather just sign Free Agents at this point. The playoff roster is already set. We just need guys that can take minutes now and save the rest of the team from burning out.

That's what really why a guy like Delly has value was to the team. Yeah, he didn't get a lot of playoff minutes, but he went 110% in the early part of the season when Kyrie was trying to get healthy. By the time the playoffs came, Delly was probably a little burned out from the season, but he's also a big part of the reason why Kyrie was fresh and ready to go.

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Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?

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Originally Posted By: ExclDawg
Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?


They will definitely buy him out.

That first rounder is lottery protected. The Mavericks just stole Noel.

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Originally Posted By: ExclDawg
Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?


I'd much rather have Sanders than Bogut, bogut is a plodder, he's no better than mozgov was and doesn't work for what we do. Plus he's 32 and always hurt


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
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Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?


I'd much rather have Sanders than Bogut, bogut is a plodder, he's no better than mozgov was and doesn't work for what we do. Plus he's 32 and always hurt


Bogut can actually run plays on offense at least. In the end I don't think he would play much. Nobody even knows if Larry Sanders can still play.

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Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?


I'd much rather have Sanders than Bogut, bogut is a plodder, he's no better than mozgov was and doesn't work for what we do. Plus he's 32 and always hurt


Bogut can actually run plays on offense at least. In the end I don't think he would play much. Nobody even knows if Larry Sanders can still play.


all reports of his practice say he looked good physically and his talent is still there..Bogut would slow us down and clog the paint


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
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Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?


I'd much rather have Sanders than Bogut, bogut is a plodder, he's no better than mozgov was and doesn't work for what we do. Plus he's 32 and always hurt


Bogut can actually run plays on offense at least. In the end I don't think he would play much. Nobody even knows if Larry Sanders can still play.


all reports of his practice say he looked good physically and his talent is still there..Bogut would slow us down and clog the paint


That's practice. He hasn't played in an NBA since 2014. If I'm the Cavs I want the known entity over the wildcard.

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there's plenty of tape on Sanders. Lue said the talent is still there...at this point its conditioning, he's just turned 28...Bogut and his whopping 3.0ppg isn't going to do much, plus he's dealing with leg injuries...sure theres no risk in signing him, but he'll end up like Jones, mcrae and felder, just being there and not doing anything. It's not like Sanders couldn't play anymore..plus Sanders was coached by Boylan and Drew..so theres that as well.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?


They will definitely buy him out.

That first rounder is lottery protected. The Mavericks just stole Noel.


Man, they really did just give Noel away. Sounds like they are going to possibly do the same with Okafor as well. Man, that's crazy. The team suffered so much to be in position to draft really good players, and now they are just giving them away instead of actually developing them. The Sixers have also really struggled to find a good, consistent PG. That really hurts a young team, and really hurts young bigs.

I also hope that they buy out Bogut, and that maybe we can add him. That would be a huge pickup. That would give us a full 15 on the roster, and we could always trade one of our youngsters if we found a quality, veteran PG to add.


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From what I've been reading, it sounds like the Cavs are holding off on signing Sanders until they can find out about the availability of Bogut. It seems like he's the preferred center.

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So apparently Dan Gilbert invited Charles Oakley to sit a few rows behind him at tonight's Cavs/Knicks game. rofl

... No word yet on whether alcohol was included in the deal.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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Noel just got traded to Dallas for Justin Anderson, Andrew Bogut and a First rounder.

Maybe Philly buys out Bogut and we can sign him?


They will definitely buy him out.

That first rounder is lottery protected. The Mavericks just stole Noel.


Man, they really did just give Noel away. Sounds like they are going to possibly do the same with Okafor as well. Man, that's crazy. The team suffered so much to be in position to draft really good players, and now they are just giving them away instead of actually developing them. The Sixers have also really struggled to find a good, consistent PG. That really hurts a young team, and really hurts young bigs.


Hinkie weeps. They could have traded Noel and Okafor for much more before the season.

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Originally Posted By: ExclDawg
From what I've been reading, it sounds like the Cavs are holding off on signing Sanders until they can find out about the availability of Bogut. It seems like he's the preferred center.


I read that the Celtics are trying to get Bogut from the Sixers before they buy him out. He would fit them perfectly.

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From what I've been reading, it sounds like the Cavs are holding off on signing Sanders until they can find out about the availability of Bogut. It seems like he's the preferred center.


I read that the Celtics are trying to get Bogut from the Sixers before they buy him out. He would fit them perfectly.


yes he would, and if i'm the sixers, I'm going to try to get something for him as opposed to buyout


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
I read that the Celtics are trying to get Bogut from the Sixers before they buy him out. He would fit them perfectly.


They certainly would be the dirtiest team around.

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I read that the Celtics are trying to get Bogut from the Sixers before they buy him out. He would fit them perfectly.


They certainly would be the dirtiest team around.


i think GS still has that on lock


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