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And? There are Swedish people on Facebook turning up cause of what Trump said. They view it as a slap in the face.

If I post a video of some dude saying the holocaust never happened, is that somehow credible?

Hey Haus, Swedish embassy still looking for a response.

Sweden has a population of about 10 million people. The political views there are surely just as diverse as they are here. Flip the example around-- say somebody from Sweden talked to either you or me about some social problem in the United States.

In most cases, they would come away with very different views depending on who they talked to. For them to turn around and say "This is what the United States thinks..." would be odd.

By the way, there are riots, police attacked, and cars burning in a Swedish city right now. Guess who.

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And? There are Swedish people on Facebook turning up cause of what Trump said. They view it as a slap in the face.

If I post a video of some dude saying the holocaust never happened, is that somehow credible?

Hey Haus, Swedish embassy still looking for a response.

Sweden has a population of about 10 million people. The political views there are surely just as diverse as they are here. Flip the example around-- say somebody from Sweden talked to either you or me about some social problem in the United States.

In most cases, they would come away with very different views depending on who they talked to. For them to turn around and say "This is what the United States thinks..." would be odd.

By the way, there are riots, police attacked, and cars burning in a Swedish city right now. Guess who.


And yet, that doesn't give you or Trump the right to make up a terrorist attack that never happened.

If you want to talk about the problems some of the migrants are causing, fine. But when you make up terrorist acts like whatever happened on Friday or crap like Bowling green, then the MAJORITY reaction of not only Americans, but the people in Sweden themselves, is going to be negative.

When you make up crap, don't expect anybody to listen to you. What's sad is our own president is doing that. That's pathetic, no matter which way you try and defend this crap.

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Your claim was that he created rap.

He didn't. There's no discussion here where you win.


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Your claim was that he created rap.

He didn't. There's no discussion here where you win.


Invented.


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He didn't invent rap.


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I had to clean this up a bit but here it is.

Here are nine of the absolute finest quotes from James “Mad Dog” Mattis:

“The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some a-holes in the world that just need to be shot.”

(Speech to Marines at al Asad)

“I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you f-- with me, I’ll kill you all.”

(To Iraqi military leaders shortly after second Iraq War’s beginning)

“Marines don’t know how to spell the word defeat."

(A favorite slogan of Mattis’)

“Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."

(Advice to soldiers before second Iraq invasion)

“The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.

(A favorite intellectual thought of his)

“Engage your brain before you engage your weapon.

(Advice to all Marines)

“No war is over until the enemy says it’s over. We may think it over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote.

(One of the more controversial thoughts by Mattis)

“I’m going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for 10,000 years.

(A word of advice to enemies)

“You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn’t wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain’t got no manhood left anyway. So it’s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it’s quite fun to fight them, you know. It’s a hell of a hoot. It’s fun to shoot some people. I’ll be right up there with you. I like brawling.”

(In a 2005 panel discussion about fighting the Taliban)

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And? There are Swedish people on Facebook turning up cause of what Trump said. They view it as a slap in the face.

If I post a video of some dude saying the holocaust never happened, is that somehow credible?

Hey Haus, Swedish embassy still looking for a response.

Sweden has a population of about 10 million people. The political views there are surely just as diverse as they are here. Flip the example around-- say somebody from Sweden talked to either you or me about some social problem in the United States.

In most cases, they would come away with very different views depending on who they talked to. For them to turn around and say "This is what the United States thinks..." would be odd.

By the way, there are riots, police attacked, and cars burning in a Swedish city right now. Guess who.


And yet, that doesn't give you or Trump the right to make up a terrorist attack that never happened.

If you want to talk about the problems some of the migrants are causing, fine. But when you make up terrorist acts like whatever happened on Friday or crap like Bowling green, then the MAJORITY reaction of not only Americans, but the people in Sweden themselves, is going to be negative.

When you make up crap, don't expect anybody to listen to you. What's sad is our own president is doing that. That's pathetic, no matter which way you try and defend this crap.

He did not say there was a terrorist attack that happened the other day in Sweden. He said something like "you look at what's happening last night in Sweden.. Sweden... who would believe this, Sweden! They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible."

No mention of a terrorist attack. There's the vague reference about something happening last night, which can be interpreted many ways. It's one of those things, where he is leading on to something big happening, and then it turns out he was referencing the Fox News article (which in turn references a great documentary which I need to post on here sometime.)

So if you want to say that he is the one who led on to there being more, fine. But you know what? It got people talking about these really big issues in Sweden. It worked exceptionally well, like it normally does. How many times did we see this during the election season?

Trump says something that appears to be crazy, but it's vague, and forces people to look into something that Trump wants people to look into. There's more there. Trump clarifies his remark, and he controls the narrative. It's beautiful in its simplicity and effectiveness.

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Nice.

But, you know, the msm, and hillary supporters, go for the throat on every thing. No sense hearing what was said, and trying to understand. Hell no. Attack Attack Attack.

And it will bite them in the ass again, sooner, rather than later.

Cry wolf once? Help comes. Cry wolf 1200 times in 4 weeks? You look pathetic.

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It's not beautiful. Because it's not working.

Right now he has no majority support. even some of his supporters want him to keep his mouth shut.

He loses credibility by the day. Him and his staff keep making claims with no evidence. Mattis and Pence have to constantly mop the floor behind this guys mess.

He's already have two advisors tank. The Russian ties are heating up more and more. Republicans are seeing this guy, and slowly breaking away from him in DC.

Haus, I know you will never admit that you and the rest of the trump supporters just got played. And that's ok. Up man, your boy is single handily ruining our reputation around the world by the week.

Why is it that Fox News and Briebart, no longer directly under Bannon, is now running negative articles and such?

Trump is tanking our reputation faster than George bush, and that dude started a false war. The majority of Americans probably like Bush more than they like Trump.

Ian's let me make this clear again: the majority of media, mainstream or not, and e majority of the American people do not support trump.

He got elected by the system, not by the majority. That's fine, because that's how the system work. But don't sit there thinking hehave the majority of support in this nation.

He doesn't.

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Yeah and Hillary was going to win the election too. Keep talking out your ass.


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The media doesn't have a damn thing to do with who gets elected, other than trying to push people one way.

Here it is, simplified for you: the electoral college votes, based on what they people in their states voted for.

Can't believe some people are still whining about this.

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I'm not whining. I'm stating the truth. Trump does not have the majority support of Americans.

And right now, it ain't looking too good. As president, he has to prove himself to us, not the other way around.

Arch, did you go to the funeral for the bowling green victims? What did you think of the service?

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He didn't invent rap.



Rock Island Line was written in 1957.


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I'm not whining. I'm stating the truth. Trump does not have the majority support of Americans.

And right now, it ain't looking too good. As president, he has to prove himself to us, not the other way around.

Arch, did you go to the funeral for the bowling green victims? What did you think of the service?


Trump never said anything about the Bowling Green massacre. That was a screw up by Conway. You're terribly slanted on this.


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No, on that day I was visiting the 57th state, and trying to not get caught up in hillary's e-mail, and trying to define what "is" is. Or was. But first, I had to pack my daughters lunch for her, since she couldn't stand to eat what your gal Michelle said schools should make for lunch. And after Sooga's friends saw what she got to eat for lunch they wanted me to pack their lunches as well, so they could at least eat during lunch.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
It's not beautiful. Because it's not working.

Right now he has no majority support. even some of his supporters want him to keep his mouth shut.

He loses credibility by the day. Him and his staff keep making claims with no evidence. Mattis and Pence have to constantly mop the floor behind this guys mess.

He's already have two advisors tank. The Russian ties are heating up more and more. Republicans are seeing this guy, and slowly breaking away from him in DC.

Haus, I know you will never admit that you and the rest of the trump supporters just got played. And that's ok. Up man, your boy is single handily ruining our reputation around the world by the week.

Why is it that Fox News and Briebart, no longer directly under Bannon, is now running negative articles and such?

Trump is tanking our reputation faster than George bush, and that dude started a false war. The majority of Americans probably like Bush more than they like Trump.

Ian's let me make this clear again: the majority of media, mainstream or not, and e majority of the American people do not support trump.

He got elected by the system, not by the majority. That's fine, because that's how the system work. But don't sit there thinking hehave the majority of support in this nation.

He doesn't.

I understand your frustration. It's not so much because I agree with you about Trump, but I can put myself in your shoes and imagine an alternate reality. In this alternate nightmare, Hillary Clinton is the President, Democrats control the Senate, Merrick Garland (or someone more liberal) has just been sworn into the Supreme Court, and I have to listen to liberals gloat instead of hearing them whine.

*shudders*

Hopefully conservative types appreciate what we have here, and do not take it for granted. I know that Trump is not perfect, I know some of you do not like him all that much, but the above scenario was really not that far off from happening. We're going to do our best to fix what needs to be fixed while others complain about how we do it.

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He didn't invent rap.



Rock Island Line was written in 1957.


He didn't invent rap.

If you're talking about what is now considered gangster rap, then maybe.

But if that was the angle you're trying to work, thenyou're confusing a sub-genre with the actual Genre.

I'm really trying to be nice and help you out by throwing you hints to support your incorrect argument, but you're making this increasingly hard.


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He's gonna be bored to death in his new job.
He's gotta wear a suit and give orders... while other guys get to have all that "wet fun"....

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Wait............swish is slanted? Who'da thunk it.

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All day long there are lies and misquotes and fake news about Trump but each morning I awake to a new day and Trump is still President. thumbsup

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Even conservatives are still waiting for you to fix things.

Not off to a hot start bro.


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Listen to Trump tell his paying members to come out and watch him interview for cabinet positions... such a carnival barker.

WARNING: This video is from an online liberal news outlet and may contain offensive language. I listened and do not recall any but I don't have sensitive ears. You've been warned.


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That's why I love The Don so much. Just 7 characters. Typing President Trump and President Obama is asking for carpal tunnel.

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My shorthand:
"alt/potus45"

11 keystrokes pretty much says it all for me.


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
My shorthand:
"alt/potus45"

11 keystrokes pretty much says it all for me.


Hmmm ... just curious ...

Did u sum up Bill Clinton's victory this way .....

"rapist/potus43" ....




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No.
I was less clever 20 years ago.
Just as handsome, though...


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
My shorthand:
"alt/potus45"

11 keystrokes pretty much says it all for me.


I agree with you, he's a dope...

President Trump visited the National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington on Tuesday.

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Tuesday said anti-Semitism is “horrible,” and “painful,” speaking out for the first time about a rising tide of incidents and threats targeting Jewish people and institutions since he was inaugurated.

“The anti-Semitic threats targeting our Jewish community and community centers are horrible, and are painful, and a very sad reminder of the work that still must be done to root out hate and prejudice and evil,” he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/us/politics/trump-speaks-out-against-anti-semitism.html?_r=0

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I'm going to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you aren't well versed on the topic.

The first signs of rap music came from Jamaica in the 50's, and then took off officially in the 70's.

Also, blacks are responsibility for the creation of most music here in America, including jazz, blues, and rock n roll, which by the way, country is heavily influenced by.

So again, I hope you're joking. Cause what you're saying isn't the truth.


If you haven't, yet, I strongly encourage you to give the entire thing a quiet and reasoned listening. Listen to understand what is being said, not to retort.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Somebody should tell Chuck that when your moral values and your idea of American values does not match up with what the people want, you end up as the leader of a replaced party with little power but to show up on the view to cry.

Resistance is Futile.

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Chuck Schumer and Whoopi Goldberg, just who I wanted to listen to.

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This is absolutely the right move...Obama was an idiot for even doing it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-expecte...-162556077.html


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
This is absolutely the right move...Obama was an idiot for even doing it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-expecte...-162556077.html


I'm not going to play wack-a-troll on this one because I struggle to understand all the transgender, gender identification stuff too. I mean I used to think that if you were a guy but felt like you were supposed to be a girl, you were just gay. But now you can be a guy and gender identify as a girl but sexually prefer to be with girls (which used to be cross dressing) and not be gay at all or maybe identify as lesbian... TOO MANY OPTIONS. We've somehow turned a binary equation into a sexual/gender identification philosophy that would confuse Freud and Kinsey.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: leadtheway
This is absolutely the right move...Obama was an idiot for even doing it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-expecte...-162556077.html


I'm not going to play wack-a-troll on this one because I struggle to understand all the transgender, gender identification stuff too. I mean I used to think that if you were a guy but felt like you were supposed to be a girl, you were just gay. But now you can be a guy and gender identify as a girl but sexually prefer to be with girls (which used to be cross dressing) and not be gay at all or maybe identify as lesbian... TOO MANY OPTIONS. We've somehow turned a binary equation into a sexual/gender identification philosophy that would confuse Freud and Kinsey.


yeah, for me its simpler though, whatever you are stated as being on your birth certificate, thats the bathroom you use...i care less what you think you are...it's asinine this is a discussion and even more so there was laws passed allowing this to even be open for interpretation. This isn't a pro/con trump...just the issue at hand, i don't care who repealed it as long as it does


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I have noticed a lot of restaurants and stores now have 2 bathrooms, both marked "Restroom". The door has a lock so only one person at a time can use them.

Now, for the sake of .00001 of our population, we all get to wait in line.

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