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You know- when we disagree, we REALLY disagree.
But the opposite is also true.

Can't (and won't) argue with a single thing you just wrote.
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Originally Posted By: Swish
for a good portion of some kids in the inner city especially, those 2 meals are the only ones they get.


How is that the tax payers of this country's problem?

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What about groups who dealt with cultural and mortal genocide? Is it their fault that dominant culture exterminated ideas, and murdered indigenous populations?

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What about groups who dealt with cultural and mortal genocide? Is it their fault that dominant culture exterminated ideas, and murdered indigenous populations?


What does this have to do with free lunch?


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Free lunch programs exist in many different schools. Inner-city, rural, suburbs, Native American reservations, and Alaska Native villages.

The poster I replied to insinuated it's not the minoritys fault that kids can't get fed at home. Yet, many fail to see the underlying causes for the plight of oppressed groups.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
What about groups who dealt with cultural and mortal genocide? Is it their fault that dominant culture exterminated ideas, and murdered indigenous populations?


No it is not their fault. But, why is it OK to take money from one person so another can have some. That is not OK. Nothing is free. Democrats just cannot understand that concept.

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It has nothing to do with free lunches. Either you qualify or you dont.


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Democrats think money falls down from the sky. Ask Obama.


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But, the question gets posed of "why do we waste money on these people? Why don't they have the wherewithal to go get jobs, food, etc?"

This is why it matters, Eve. Barely anyone knows the plight of the oppressed, and that's due to a complacency to not understand the world. Awful legislation gets shoved through due ignorance of the oppressed. Just look at the DAPL.

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It seems a fair amount of conservatives and alt-right individuals fail at understanding what it's like to be a minority.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
But, the question gets posed of "why do we waste money on these people? Why don't they have the wherewithal to go get jobs, food, etc?"

This is why it matters, Eve. Barely anyone knows the plight of the oppressed, and that's due to a complacency to not understand the world. Awful legislation gets shoved through due ignorance of the oppressed. Just look at the DAPL.

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Democrats just cannot understand that concept.


It seems a fair amount of conservatives and alt-right individuals fail at understanding what it's like to be a minority.


The Democrats throw money at the oppressed to get their votes. They do nothing to end their oppression.

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Its not a question about plights. History doesnt matter. Only current state matters. Either you qualify for free lunches or you dont. You shouldnt get things for free just because your ancestors had it rough. Today is a new day.


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Democrats think money falls down from the sky. Ask Obama.

Republicans think it falls down from the wealthy. (Trickle down economics.)


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How does #MakeAmericaGreatAgain address the plight of the oppressed? How is today a "new day" when we keep using the same policies that actively seek to oppress minorities?

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for a good portion of some kids in the inner city especially, those 2 meals are the only ones they get.


How is that the tax payers of this country's problem?


Well, if the statistics on food scarcity for children are to be believed, then it's a much larger problem for this country's tax payers than subsidies for soybeans or money for an immigration department or drugs.

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Democrats think money falls down from the sky. Ask Obama.

Republicans think it falls down from the wealthy. (Trickle down economics.)


When I worked for Delta it did. In times of plenty I received bonuses, stocks, and raises.


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Democrats think money falls down from the sky. Ask Obama.

Republicans think it falls down from the wealthy. (Trickle down economics.)


The best joke is that they also think wealth is limitless.

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How does #MakeAmericaGreatAgain address the plight of the oppressed? How is today a "new day" when we keep using the same policies that actively seek to oppress minorities?


I notice you ignored everything I said to further your propaganda.


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Free lunch programs exist in many different schools. Inner-city, rural, suburbs, Native American reservations, and Alaska Native villages.

The poster I replied to insinuated it's not the minoritys fault that kids can't get fed at home. Yet, many fail to see the underlying causes for the plight of oppressed groups.


Free lunch programs exist right here, in Archbold.

I don't know that anyone is saying "take that away". perhaps I missed something?

And what does groups"that dealt with cultural and mortal genocide" have to do with free lunches?

And honestly, what do you mean by "mortal genocide". I'm not a grad student.

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He's trying to say that people automatically deserve benefits if their heritage is bad. Which is a fallacy.


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People deserve humane treatment if a ruining body took away land, purposely murdered individuals, and sought to limit freedom for the minority.

Mortal genocide is a bit of a redundant label, but it's mass killing of a certain cultural group.

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Propaganda that has nothing to do with free lunches. Either you qualify or you dont.


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Sorry that you can't see the deeper connections, Eve.

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Sorry that you cant see the obvious connections. Entitlements are based on what you earn. Not what your daddy's daddy went through.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Its not a question about plights. History doesnt matter. Only current state matters. Either you qualify for free lunches or you dont. You shouldnt get things for free just because your ancestors had it rough. Today is a new day.


This is probably the funniest thing I've read on this forum when you consider the poster is the biggest advocate for accepting pre-existing conditions.

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Nice reach, grasp, and come up with nothing.


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Nice English?

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Do you speak any? Or only spanglish.


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Do you speak any? Or only spanglish.


No. You've been speaking in Spanish this entire time. That's how you can read my posts and communicate with me directly.

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I knew those 7th grade spanish classes were good for something.


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You've been able to do a lot with a middle school education. I'm impressed.

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It takes a lot to communicate with minorities.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
It takes a lot to communicate with minorities.


Must be hard to see them with all that blood coming out of your eyes, coming out of your whatever.

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Ok dude. By all means, go off the deep end.


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It takes a lot to communicate with minorities.


Yep, that's not racist at all... deplorable.

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You know- when we disagree, we REALLY disagree.
But the opposite is also true.

Can't (and won't) argue with a single thing you just wrote.
Could've been me banging that one out.

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Outside of religious stuff we usually agree on a lot of things. I'm just more strict and less forgiving than you are I think. I don't think your a bad person just because we disagree on certain things.


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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Originally Posted By: Swish
for a good portion of some kids in the inner city especially, those 2 meals are the only ones they get.


How is that the tax payers of this country's problem?


One of the primary responsibilities of ANY leader is to make sure his people are FED and don't DIE. IF you care about your people that you are sworn to protect then at the VERY LEAST you won't let the innocent kids go hungry.

Let me also add that when kids go hungry people will die. A desperate person can suffer and think of suicide but you get a desperate parent who cares about his kids watching his kids go hungry cause he can't find work and you will quickly find a person willing to kill to feed them. Even the nicest people will kill to feed their kids when desperate enough.

That's why we have foodstamps. To keep people from murdering and rampaging to feed their kids. It's because we understand that people can go through hard times or lose their way and if we can just help the kids out the parents might survive it and come back to humanity. At the very least we can hope the kids will survive and have a CHANCE.

If I were king my people would always be fed no matter what. They would always have a place to live no matter what. Finding ways for my people to have work and have self respect and personal wealth would always be a priority right afterwards. The number one way for that is to educate the hell out of them. Matter of fact I would only allow for work, school, or retirement. I would never allow for the current welfare system that rewards for doing nothing. If you can't find a job then we are going to keep training you till someone can put you to work. While your training we will make sure you are your family are taken care of until you get the job you need to care for them. That's because I would rather have a nation of scholars than lazy bums. I would rather pay people to go to school then lock them up in jails. I would rather care about the person than to toss them out like trash. I just won't tolerate those who commit violence against their fellow man or woman. That would be my kingdom =) Healthy, well fed, and productive people who treat each other with kindness.


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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Originally Posted By: Swish
for a good portion of some kids in the inner city especially, those 2 meals are the only ones they get.




Maybe so. Maybe their parents need to quit chugging the Schlitz Malt or Olde English.



Kidding aside, I don't have a problem with my tax dollars going towards feeding a child, at least through elementary school aged children. Once in Middle School, make them put in a hour after school cleaning up or something. Helps build a work ethic, and I truely believe that the vast majority of people would rather pay their way rather than job the system.


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Originally Posted By: Razorthorns
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Originally Posted By: Swish
for a good portion of some kids in the inner city especially, those 2 meals are the only ones they get.


How is that the tax payers of this country's problem?


One of the primary responsibilities of ANY leader is to make sure his people are FED and don't DIE. IF you care about your people that you are sworn to protect then at the VERY LEAST you won't let the innocent kids go hungry.

Let me also add that when kids go hungry people will die. A desperate person can suffer and think of suicide but you get a desperate parent who cares about his kids watching his kids go hungry cause he can't find work and you will quickly find a person willing to kill to feed them. Even the nicest people will kill to feed their kids when desperate enough.

That's why we have foodstamps. To keep people from murdering and rampaging to feed their kids. It's because we understand that people can go through hard times or lose their way and if we can just help the kids out the parents might survive it and come back to humanity. At the very least we can hope the kids will survive and have a CHANCE.

If I were king my people would always be fed no matter what. They would always have a place to live no matter what. Finding ways for my people to have work and have self respect and personal wealth would always be a priority right afterwards. The number one way for that is to educate the hell out of them. Matter of fact I would only allow for work, school, or retirement. I would never allow for the current welfare system that rewards for doing nothing. If you can't find a job then we are going to keep training you till someone can put you to work. While your training we will make sure you are your family are taken care of until you get the job you need to care for them. That's because I would rather have a nation of scholars than lazy bums. I would rather pay people to go to school then lock them up in jails. I would rather care about the person than to toss them out like trash. I just won't tolerate those who commit violence against their fellow man or woman. That would be my kingdom =) Healthy, well fed, and productive people who treat each other with kindness.


Taking from one person to give to another is not kindness. Nothing is free in this world no matter what Bernie says.

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I don't know why people consider government hand outs charity. It's not, it's taxes being handed out.

Charity is when I give it, not when you forcibly take it from me and give it to someone else.


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