DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Terrelle Pryor - Chapter 2

If Pryor does not end up a Brown then my confidence in the front office goes from 0 to about -100. I am hopeful that they field offers from other teams then go back to the Browns and he signs with us. If he does not however, that will be the ultimate loss and our front office would look like absolute fools. It's not like we have a lot of WR's who are any good on our team.

If we lose him I will be angry.

Because he expected to get paid.. not lowballed. His kid is in Pittsburg.. Interest from Pittsburg.. or Buffalo.. or even Philly may be a tipping point. Money talks.. and there are locations that can be just as good.

Location.. Location.. Location.. coupled with better money.. hmmm

j/c

brandon marshall probably to the Pats IMO

j/c:

This is kinda tongue in cheek, but I hope we sign him for no other reason than listening to mac tell us how cheap and inexperienced the FO is and then listening to all the spin doctors saying things like "we were 1 and 15 w/him, so how much worse could it be" and the FO wanted TP, but there was "no way he was going to stay here."

Oh God, another year of those dumb-ass conversations.

lol!
It's like politics.... even if it is a good thing, SOMEONE will find an angle to be contrarian.

IMO, he does want to play for Hue. I also believe that the FO is letting him find his worth in FA. If Pittsburgh outbid us, I guarantee he wold be gone. I also believe Rosenhaus is using the fact that the Browns have so much cap, and thus his people float rumors to drive up his value. This happens all the time.

I would love to see him stay, but you have to ask yourself this,if you were in his shoes and someone offered 3 or 4 million a year more, what would you do? Injuries can end a career quickly. I, myself would go to the highest bidder, as I believe most here would do also in reality.

I hope they give him the money, and he stays. He is an elite athlete, that is motivated to be great. We need players like him. IMO, he has just scratched the surface of how good he can be.

If they let him walk for a reasonable contract, I will be pissed. Wanting to be here, and looking at extra millions of dollars, are where he might stand. For the future of his family, I think money talks.

This is what gets me confused. If we have the most cap room and we are the team that needs him the most, who would be paying 3 to 4 million more for him?


EDIT: Point being, we are the ones who need him the most. Who would be paying him that much more than us?

Don't know if that list of teams is legit or not, but I figured Shanahan would have interest.

What was the LOWBALL offer in dollar and years?

I think you make a good point. We have more cap space than other teams. Why the hell would they be willing to pay more for a good player than we would?

Not sure how even the staunchest homer can justify that.

I mean, they will talk a bunch of crap, but logically speaking......why would teams w/better organizations, better talent, and having less cap space give a guy more money than we would?

Because they may feel that's all they need to win the Super Bowl!

Like SF and Baltimore?

If he leaves and signs with Steelers/Ravens/Bengals... wow. They should have just paid him, we will regret it if he leaves.

Exactly. It's not like we're trying to win the cap battle. At least I hope not. It's not my money, we play in a salary cap sport, i wanna do what makes the most sense for our team, not Haslam's wallet.


I'm always big on giving our FO's a chance. And I don't like getting critical too quickly. But I do have a limit. I guess you could call me a homer, until my limit has been reached.

If Pryor ends up on our team, that's wonderful. But I cannot see one reason why Pryor should not be on our team next year, or that we at least didn't make a better attempt at keeping him here with the Transition Tag (so that we could have had the chance to match another team's offer).

And losing Pryor would certainly shake my confidence in our Front Office. I mean, there's no way to paint it any other way. Losing him would be a mistake. If we can't sign him to a long-term contract, he at least should have been franchised.

Cause the fact is, there is no one out there, that will play for us, that's gonna be better. Maybe if we invest a first round pick in a receiver. And what kind of sense does that make? Creating a new hole to fill?


Now if he re-signs, everything is dandy. But if they screw this up, I'm gonna be pretty upset. And I think there's gonna be a lot of folks who feel the same way

They should have just tagged the guy, and kept it moving.

Well.........let's just hope we are able to keep him.

Yeah, guess so. I don't like operating like that (putting things in other people's hands). It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine. It' s very difficult for me, I always feel like if I can handle it, it'll get done.


Not sure why they operate this way.

We didn't use a tag on anyone. No excuses, if this goes wrong, they own this one

I'd give him something similar to what Keenan Allen, Allen Hurns, and Marvin Jones got. $20 million guaranteed, with $8-$10M per year. I think that is very fair value for every.

Overpaying is bad.

Hard to believe the Browns didn't tag him. Looks like the Steelers are somewhat interested, they are also his hometown team, but they don't have a lot of room under the cap. Should be interesting to see where he ends up.I'm guessing with the Browns, since they have so much cap room.

Sure is, but we should have left ourselves some options better than what we have now.

That's our FO's fault. He ends up with us, wonderful. He ends up with someone else next year, that's completely on them. And there was no reason for it

When was the last time the Steelers signed anyone like Pryor (and they have no cap space, as you mentioned)? To me that is clearly a leak to get the Browns to pay up.

I agree - though he would definitely help the Steelers.

Underpaying is bad.

So is creating holes for yourself. We have all these picks, all this money. The idea is to fill holes, not build new ones

That's the idea. But sometimes things don't go according to plan. When things don't go according to plan you don't panic. Overpaying is a panic move.

My guess is that Pryor tests the market (which he is smart to do) and comes back with an offer for the Browns to match (or asks for the Browns original offer).

Hope he doesn't forget the only team who gave him a chance to play WR and get a lucrative deal. Loyalty should count for something.

I doubt it, bro. If he sucked, we would have cut him. It's a business.

He should get as much money as he possibly can.

+1, Pryor played it well for himself and his family....just like any of us who are smart....got good guidance...loyalty in Pro sports, really.....old saying...Money talks and bs walks.....GO Browns!!!

Conflicting reports on whether Steelers are interested in Terrelle Pryor.

Tweet from Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

Gerry Dulac‏ @gerrydulac

FYI, Steelers have no interest in signing Terrelle Pryor, per team source. Not at $10 million-plus.
10:10 PM · Mar 6, 2017

if he's wanting 10million plus, i wouldn't want him either on the browns...he's not that good yet and he'll be 28 before the season. If I'm spending 10+ on a receiver, i'm just going to get Jeffrey

yes he should, but the Browns shouldn't overpay him just to keep him. Smart cap management is more important than resigning a 28 year old rookie WR

lol, cause it's that easy. You just "get" Jeffrey.

What makes you think that Jeffrey wants to play here? What does Jeffrey want to come here?

Folks thinks it's as easy as Madden. Just click the guy you want, offer him a contract, and that's it.


It takes two to Tango in Free Agency

I hope this is a common theme as the day unfolds and Pryor finds out he may not be as valuable as his agent thinks. Unfortunately I doubt this is the case as I'm sure Rosenhaus already has a good idea of market value. This isn't his first rodeo.

And thats why everything out of his mouth is LIP service , period .

Guy on local radio just said he wants $13 MIL. Has anyone read that? Ludicrous!

actually in the NFL for the most part it is exactly like that..Cash is King..unless you're talking washed up ring chasers. The point is Pryor isnt worth 10+, there are those that are more established that are