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He's just betting on himself. Could be smart. If he goes for over 1,000 again, he'll likely earn a 3 yr 12mil per next offseason rather than 3 year 24 mil this year. Or, he could Get injured and make less next year.

Heard a rumor we didn't want to offer a 1 year deal, which is what he wanted.

So Pryor gets $2 mill guaranteed vs $17 mill. Ouch.

Makes me think of Maurice Clarett.

I think Rosenhaus filled his head with thoughts of going to where he would be guaranteed to be the #1 target so that he can have a big year and hopefully hit a super-fat deal in 2018.

Umm not likely. That was the point of signing Britt I believe

Deep WR class.

Pryor got $3 million to sign, $3 million salary, and $2 million in "easily attainable bonuses".

So if he gets hurt, he could see only $6 million.

He must have decided that he just didn't want to come back here, no matter what he said.

Which goes back to the market for him this year not being what they expected.... so, Rosenhaus changed the plans: rather than taking a longer deal anywhere, it was about placing him somewhere he could hopefully get showcased and have a stellar year so that they can cash in next offseason.

Pryor wasn't going to get showcased here, especially now that we have Britt. Add in that if Coleman starts to show up, and if Gordon comes back (big IF), suddenly he could be starved for touches which would kill any opportunities to cash in next year.

This was a straight-up long-term money move by him.

He was good but WR are easy to replace, so goodbye dude.

j/c:

In my opinion, most of the posters on this thread are sounding just like mac, except they have a polar opposite opinion on the matter.

Most are putting all the blame on Pryor and zero on the FO. That's as dumb as when mac was putting all the blame on the FO and none on Pryor.

What was it that I read over and over and over? Oh yeah, "it takes two."

I am a bottom line guy and I wish that the Browns and Pryor could have agreed on a contract. We would be a better team than we are now.

I don't have any inside knowledge and I am betting you guys don't either. Thus, it is rather ridiculous to put all the blame on one side or another.

Motto of this post: Don't be like mac.

I think this is a better move for Rosenhaus than it is for Pryor. JMHO

I am not going to argue about it. I stated my opinion and I don't think anyone knows what was offered and when it was offered and how long the offer stood. It's just speculation based on some media reports.

I actually didn't have a problem at all w/your first post. I am just saying that putting all the blame on one side is unfair and illogical.

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People will blame #Browns for this one & not fair IMO; Was offered a Britt-type contract & they said no. So 1 year prove it deal it is.

+1, why blame anyone, FO covered the hole with same player with MORE EXPERIENCE as WR...Pryor got what he wanted, FA experience....found out he wasn't worth what he was pedaling YET...one year deal, smart IF he produces....Lastly, it's a business, should we cry for him...How many of us are making 8 million this year....he took care of his family...good on him.....GO Browns!!!!

I really wanna trade Brock to Washington for Cousins now.

Good post. Why blame anyone is right.

At the end of the day, we are a worse team and that sucks. However, we have also helped ourselves in the last couple of days and that is great.

Can't win them all.

tab...........I am NOT blaming the FO. <<sigh>>

Imo, the FO messed this up by not protecting themselves with the Transition tag.

Either they didn't feel Pryor was worth the investment of the tag (basically wanted him, but wouldn't be devastated if he left), or they just made a big miscalculation on the negotiations.

The FO definitely deserves some blame here unless they just didn't see losing Pryor as a big deal, and if he goes to DC and tears it up that evaluation is very troubling as well.

The agent and player are going to do what is in their best interest......not the Browns. If he wants 12 million per and no one will give that to him right now why wouldn't he take a 1 year 8 million show me contract??? That way he can get his money next year. He doesn't want to get locked into a 4 year deal making 2-3 million per year less than he thinks he's worth.

I don't blame Pryor for doing what he thought was best for him. The FO on the other hand.......TBD.

I don't know the details. No-one does. I agree that it's highly unlikely that 100% of the blame belongs to Pryor (or more accurately - pryor and his agent). . . . That said it appears that the Browns gave Pryor a fair offer.

Pryor will need to improve significantly to earn and recover what he lost out on this year. And he's got significant risk of not ever seeing what he was offered.

j/c....

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Per Pro Football Talk, Pryor had a deal on the table with the Browns and walked away

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Receiver Terrelle Pryor apparently (not definitely, but apparently) could have had a multi-year deal worth $8 million annually in Cleveland. He has opted for a deal worth that amount in Washington, plus a chance to hit the market again next year.

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The Transition Tag for WRs was 12 million.

Now that Pryor is gone I think the next free agent receivers I'd consider are Kendall Wright and Vincent Jackson. I heard Jarvis Landry might be on the trade block - Al Saunders was key in his breakout season. Maybe he would be worth looking into trading for.

While coach Hue Jackson is not planning to request the removal of top football man Sashi Brown, or the influential analytics department he has built, the sources said there will be a strong push to ownership to reconsider the flow chart. The coaches would like a proven, old-school talent evaluator involved in player selection to provide checks and balances with the current setup.
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I'm sure the subject of having a more balanced front office will be come up again. Hue wanted Pryor signed, but for the 2nd year in a row, the analytics boys could not find the money to sign their own free agent.

Last year the Browns front office failed to reach agreement with any of their free agent starters leaving the coaching staff with four holes to fill as all four of the Browns free agents found teams willing to work out a deal with each.

I don't care who the head coach is, you can't build a winning team with a front office that is unwilling..or not capable of negotiating free agent contracts with their own free agents.

Last year, four other NFL front offices had the expertise and desire to work out acceptable deals with the Browns free agents. The most bizarre loss was RT, Mitch Schwartz, who wanted to play in Cleveland and returned to the Browns to accept their offer, when the Browns Harvard lawyer/GM pulled their offer and tried to low-ball Schwartz.

The Browns front office was given an "F" for their efforts in free agency a year ago...and one would think the Harvard lawyer learned something from his first year, attempting to be a NFL caliber GM.

From the article excerpt from the above article, Hue Jackson asked the owner and GM for the addition of an experienced football evaluator to be added to front office. Jackson request was ignored and once again, the Browns Harvard lawyer/GM failed to get a key free agent signed, even though Jackson told management he wanted the Browns top WR resigned.

This is the kind of situation that drives a wedge between the front office and the Headcoach...and usually these disagreements do not end well for the front office.

This is the second year in a row that our Harvard lawyer/GM could not get the job done and failed to get a valuable team member that the HC wanted.

I seriously doubt that this front office remains as is another season and it would be much better for the franchise if changes were made in the front office.

I know. That is basically my point.....the Browns didn't feel losing Pryor was a devastating blow to the team or they would have done that. Goodness they just dropped 16 million for a 2nd round pick for Christ sakes.

If he studs out then the FO missed this one, and if he doesn't then no big deal. We will see I guess.

I don't think that there is any blame to be assigned, really.

You have two parties that both did what they thought was their best option - they just didn't match up.

Beyond that, however, it doesn't hurt to analyze what those views of their best option were.

The Browns didn't want a 1-year rental, they wanted to lock him up long-term.

Pryor, seeing that he wasn't going to cash-in the way he & Rosenhaus expected, was looking for a 1-year deal to hopefully cash-in next year. Even IF we gave him that 1-year, his targets here were going to be limited compared to with the Skins where is likely to be the #1 target... so, he gets to pad his stats and head into FA next offseason primed (theoretically) to cash-in as a more polished receiver.

Hmmmm.........sounds like he is betting on himself.

It would be kinda funny if that happened .... and the DC re-signed RG3.

My feeling is that Pryor will out after next year, no matter how he does, no one is going to give him 10+ mil a yr. There will be WR out there with better numbers and less age that will be getting less. Pryor just got greedy, but thats up to him.
Vers. I don't think were that much worse off. We got WR's.
Just need to step up.

That's my thought too.

Plus, he went to DC, where he'll, presumably, have Cousins throwing passes his way, instead of the revolving door he had in Cleveland. It seems that once he found out that he wasn't going to get that huge deal he wanted, he decided to bet on himself for a year.

I can respect that.

It sounds like we were still open to signing Pryor right up until he signed with the Redskins, HOWEVER, I do wonder what the conversation was about a one year contract was?

We were right about not paying him $13 mil with such a small body of work to look at. No other team would either. If that is what we were telling him, then why not offer a 1 year deal? Maybe we did. I don't know. Maybe he was so upset that we wouldn't pay him $13 mil or that we signed Britt that he wasn't going to play for us at all.

It's hard to know who messed up in this case, but knowing Drew, I am pretty certain that he didn't help the situation.

Just to nit pick: 12.8 million almost 13 mil.