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Are you saying you can't see the logic of the Browns reducing their offer or maybe even pulling it, after they signed Britt for comparable money?
Actually, I have thought that all along, even before this article came out. I have just kept silent about it because there were plenty of grenades being thrown around.
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Are you saying you can't see the logic of the Browns reducing their offer or maybe even pulling it, after they signed Britt for comparable money?
Actually, I have thought that all along, even before this article came out. I have just kept silent about it because there were plenty of grenades being thrown around. No I can see that. What I can't see is that they also raised to $8.5 mil a year right before he signed with Wash. I also can't see that if 4 teams besides the Browns were interested in paying him $10 mil plus for multiple years, that none of those same teams would be interested in a 1 year prove it deal at $10 mil. It makes no sense for 1 team to not be interested in a cheaper prove it deal. It makes impossible sense that 4 teams were not interested in that. I think that they were telling the Browns that they were getting $10 mil offers and we said that we would up our offer to $8.5 mil. They got upset about that and took the highest offer that wasn't from the Browns. I have a feeling that the Bears offered even less than the redskins and that is why they signed with the Redskins without even visiting.
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I have a feeling that the Bears offered even less than the redskins and that is why they signed with the Redskins without even visiting. He did visit Washington.
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j/c I find this funny; Three teams offered him a multi-year deal worth $10 million and one offered $11 million, the source said. But again, Pryor and his agents felt he could get more after 2017 with another big year. So he turned down a deal that would have tied him for the 10th highest paid WR in the league because he thinks he can get $15 mill plus a year which would make him the 2nd highest paid WR in the NFL. Seriously !!!!! He thinks he should make as much or more then AJ Green (currently the 2nd highest paid WR)??????
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I had stopped reading this thread. . . . Oh brother. The article posted - to me - smacks of complete and utter b.s "Three teams offered him a multi-year deal worth $10 million and one offered $11 million, the source said. But again, Pryor and his agents felt he could get more after 2017 with another big year." If Pryor turned down an multi-year $11 mill per year deal ... I'll eat my shorts. That's just nonsense. I think he's be wrong to turn down 4yrs at $32 mill and $17 guaranteed ($8 mill per year). I think he'd be certifiably insane to turn down $11 mill per year to take $8 million with Washington. AND that's assuming he earns his $2 mill bonus. As someone else said - that's top 10 WR money. There are only 7 WR's with a salary $11.5 million or higher in the league.  I better stop reading again.
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I have a feeling that the Bears offered even less than the redskins and that is why they signed with the Redskins without even visiting. He did visit Washington. But he didn't visit the Bears. That means there offer had to be worse than the $6 mil offer that he got from the Redskins. Why not visit one of the 4 teams that offered $10 mil plus? Something just doesn't smell right in this story.
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You know, if you ever watch 'Shark Tank' the sharks often reduce an offer, or they completely pull it, if the person making the pitch chooses to get other bids, walk out of the tank to discuss/make a phone call etc. before accepting an offer. It is business and it happens all the time. It has nothing to do with the Browns screwing up or being incompetent. It's a shame we lost him. I too wanted us to resign Pryor. But, he was looking for more coin when he had a solid deal. Greed got in his and his agents way. It is what it is. Time to move forward.
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I actually like their logic, the Browns are setting a tone for players, they are not playing these games in FA. FO gave him a fair deal which was the best deal but he turned it down. As a fan, I wanted Pryor back but football is a business so I get why he tried to get the most money he could.
I applaud the FO for not playing these games with these agents, I doubt the patriots or the seahawks will go back and forth with players and let them use them to get their players a better deal. I bet they make them an offer and if they take it, you negotiate the details if you don't then the deal is over.
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Again, people complain about mac and rightfully so. However, it is amazing how many of you apply similar "logic" to one-sided arguments.
I don't think it is a stretch to think the Browns pulled their offer once they signed Britt. In fact, I think it makes sense.
The fail belongs to both the Browns and to Pryor.
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The article said they reduced it not pulled it.
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Thanks for the correction.
Now, do you wanna go correct all the BS from other posters who are defending the FO like they are their first born? LOL...
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The article said they reduced it not pulled it. I think they still have a WR spot to fill. They cut Andrew Hawkins.
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Sounds to me like we didn't want a one year commitment from him we wanted 4 years. He didn't want the 8.5 he want more... nothing to see here.
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j/c I find this funny; Three teams offered him a multi-year deal worth $10 million and one offered $11 million, the source said. But again, Pryor and his agents felt he could get more after 2017 with another big year. So he turned down a deal that would have tied him for the 10th highest paid WR in the league because he thinks he can get $15 mill plus a year which would make him the 2nd highest paid WR in the NFL. Seriously !!!!! He thinks he should make as much or more then AJ Green (currently the 2nd highest paid WR)?????? I read that as the total value of the contract was 10M, not per year.
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Again, people complain about mac and rightfully so. However, it is amazing how many of you apply similar "logic" to one-sided arguments.
I don't think it is a stretch to think the Browns pulled their offer once they signed Britt. In fact, I think it makes sense.
The fail belongs to both the Browns and to Pryor.
It's not black and white. It's gray. I don't think that is a stretch either. But which is it? Did they pull their offer or did they offer $8.5 million at the end? Regardless, when a player signs a 1 year prove it deal and it's not with us, I see some fault with the front office there. Did he ask us for a 1 year deal and did we say no? If so that is a mistake. It hard to tell what happened from this story because at least parts of it are fabricated.
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j/c I find this funny; Three teams offered him a multi-year deal worth $10 million and one offered $11 million, the source said. But again, Pryor and his agents felt he could get more after 2017 with another big year. So he turned down a deal that would have tied him for the 10th highest paid WR in the league because he thinks he can get $15 mill plus a year which would make him the 2nd highest paid WR in the NFL. Seriously !!!!! He thinks he should make as much or more then AJ Green (currently the 2nd highest paid WR)?????? I read that as the total value of the contract was 10M, not per year. That would make much more sense. Maybe some 2 year deals offered out there for $5 mil plus a year.
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j/c:
Again, people complain about mac and rightfully so. However, it is amazing how many of you apply similar "logic" to one-sided arguments.
I don't think it is a stretch to think the Browns pulled their offer once they signed Britt. In fact, I think it makes sense.
The fail belongs to both the Browns and to Pryor.
It's not black and white. It's gray. I don't think that is a stretch either. But which is it? Did they pull their offer or did they offer $8.5 million at the end? Regardless, when a player signs a 1 year prove it deal and it's not with us, I see some fault with the front office there. Did he ask us for a 1 year deal and did we say no? If so that is a mistake. It hard to tell what happened from this story because at least parts of it are fabricated. I don't know what happened exactly, but I think that is a fair take. I just like keeping things real.
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Well that is even funnier. How can he and his agent justify holding out for $15 mill a year when only 2 teams offered him even half that. I think he is way over valuing himself.
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Thanks for the correction.
Now, do you wanna go correct all the BS from other posters who are defending the FO like they are their first born? LOL... Only if they are putting out incorrect information.
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Thanks for the correction.
Now, do you wanna go correct all the BS from other posters who are defending the FO like they are their first born? LOL... Only if they are putting out incorrect information. Then you better get busy, boi. Because, most of this thread is filled w/incorrect BS. Let's be real here.......we both know why you corrected me. And it was for an honorable reason.
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While it is very likely that Pryor’s agents came back to the Browns looking for a better deal – that’s what agents do, after all – this latest report doesn’t really change the fact that Pryor is no longer with the Browns for one simple reason: he and his agents over-estimated his value. It is fairly easy to see that the source is probably Drew or Jason Rosenhaus, who having sold Pryor on a financial outcome they couldn’t deliver are now in full spin mode. Pryor and his agents were convinced that he was worth top dollar for a wide receiver despite only having played one year at the position, which is why they turn their noses up at the Browns offer. But once they realized that there was not a single team willing to pay Pryor anywhere close to $15 million a year they came back to the Browns with stories of “three teams offering multi-year deals.” The Browns had a firm number in mind of how much Pryor was really worth – which proved to be far more accurate than what Pryor’s agents thought he was worth – and when they wouldn’t get snookered by a pair of agents Pryor went off to Washington for far less money than he would have made with the Browns. http://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/03/12/cleveland-browns-terrelle-pryor-7/
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Vambo won't answer honestly, but does anyone know if this site is the owned/controlled by the Browns?
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Vambo won't answer honestly, but does anyone know if this site is the owned/controlled by the Browns? Fansided is owned and operated by CNN/SI
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I don't think so. They have a site like ESPN where they delve into all sports. http://fansided.com/
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Okay, thanks.
I was wondering because the article seemed very slanted and national sites aren't typically so biased. Additionally, when I clicked on the link, every story was about the Browns.
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Vambo won't answer honestly, but does anyone know if this site is the owned/controlled by the Browns? You have internet why bash me when you could easily look it up yourself but no you have to get your DIG in. 
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I did look and I wasn't sure.
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Vambo won't answer honestly, but does anyone know if this site is the owned/controlled by the Browns? Fansided is owned and operated by CNN/SI Once again an apology is in order here a stand up guy would do that Vers.
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While it is very likely that Pryor’s agents came back to the Browns looking for a better deal – that’s what agents do, after all – this latest report doesn’t really change the fact that Pryor is no longer with the Browns for one simple reason: he and his agents over-estimated his value. It is fairly easy to see that the source is probably Drew or Jason Rosenhaus, who having sold Pryor on a financial outcome they couldn’t deliver are now in full spin mode. Pryor and his agents were convinced that he was worth top dollar for a wide receiver despite only having played one year at the position, which is why they turn their noses up at the Browns offer. But once they realized that there was not a single team willing to pay Pryor anywhere close to $15 million a year they came back to the Browns with stories of “three teams offering multi-year deals.” The Browns had a firm number in mind of how much Pryor was really worth – which proved to be far more accurate than what Pryor’s agents thought he was worth – and when they wouldn’t get snookered by a pair of agents Pryor went off to Washington for far less money than he would have made with the Browns. http://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/03/12/cleveland-browns-terrelle-pryor-7/ That all sounds like the way I think it went done as well, but there is still the fact that he signed for less elsewhere. Did they ask us for a one year deal? I could see a few scenarios. Yes they asked and for some reason we said no. This would be a mistake because we could have got him without a multi-year risk at a price that we wanted with time to work on something that was more long-term. No they didn't ask because his agent knew that next year he'd be easier to pry away from Washington than Cleveland when chasing the highest dollar. Yes they asked and we said yes, but they thought he had a better chance of showcasing himself catching from Cousins. I think that his agent is making a big mistake if that is the case because the Redskins are a dumpster fire right now and Cousins might not be there in week 1. No matter what his agent looks pretty bad in this whole thing, but that is expected given the agent.
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I just want to add something here .....
People have talked about how Pryor's production waned in the final month of the year ..... but Pryor suffered a torn finger ligament late in the year.
I cannot imagine how much it much have hurt trying to catch a football with a torn ligament in his finger. Some said that he might not be able to play, but he did.
There were some bad things said about Pryor, but no one can doubt his desire to play, and win. He did everything he could do to get on the field, and to play every week.
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I just want to add something here .....
People have talked about how Pryor's production waned in the final month of the year ..... but Pryor suffered a torn finger ligament late in the year.
I cannot imagine how much it much have hurt trying to catch a football with a torn ligament in his finger. Some said that he might not be able to play, but he did.
There were some bad things said about Pryor, but no one can doubt his desire to play, and win. He did everything he could do to get on the field, and to play every week. Yeah, I do understand that he was considered a "me guy" in college, but the fact remains that he played hard for us and played hurt. I also believe him when he says that he wanted to play here. Most WR's are divas and I'm sure he is no exception, but I wanted him back this year. I'm not going to blame him for trying to get paid. Football is a business. If he had a decent agent though, his agent would be looking out for all of his interests and not just the top dollar.
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Seems like BS to me. He would have gone back and signed with the team who offered 11 mil.
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Thanks for the correction.
Now, do you wanna go correct all the BS from other posters who are defending the FO like they are their first born? LOL... Relax dude we still have "Flash" right?
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Seems like BS to me. He would have gone back and signed with the team who offered 11 mil. Of course it does. It's not a completely positive article about the Browns. It's gotta be fake.
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