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I think we need to stop worrying about the helmet orange matching the uniform orange.

Different materials.

It just never works well.

Maybe white helmets as a throwback but not as a regular thing.

Hmmmmm.........never thought of that.

I like the dark metallic burnt orange a lot. I was hoping they'd go that way when they made the change. Still hoping. (I also like the style of the helmet ThatGuy put up.)

It doesn't need the scrap of Brown on the bottom, I mean it's nowhere near as bad as what Jacksonville did..

That helmet is the background on my laptop. I fricken love it.

The helmet, maybe modernize is slightly like Cal and ThatGuy had posted in their pics, but I don't think white will go over well. The home unies in that white helmet? Ugh, I can't bear the thought!!

Throw back white helmet with the old school outfit, hmmm, maybe that would be sweet! Wel, better than Pittsburgh's bumblebee outfits

Edit: phone tried to auto correct my blantant misspelling of uniforms.

I love white helmets.

I'm glad Buffalo and San.. LA went back to them.

They are pretty.

The Browns should not have a white helmet.

Oh look, I can read the jersey number!



White jerseys, brown numbers.
Brown jerseys, white numbers.

Not because of tradition, but so that the numbers can be read at the stadium and on the TV.

Contrast is the key. Black is darkest tint and White is the lightest. (perfect contrast). Orange is a middle tint. On a B&W TV, Black would look black and White would look white and Orange would look a medium gray. Medium gray on black is not enough contrast nor is medium gray on white, (or white on medium gray, nor dark gray on medium gray).

White on brown still work as our brown is very dark. But it doesn't matter whether it's a B&W TV, or in living color, there's not enough contrast to read the orange numbers. The same with the orange jerseys with the white numbers, again, that's half the contrast of black and white: not readable at a long distance or on a TV screen.

I know it's hard to believe that a "professional graphic designer" would make such mistakes until you consider that when sitting in front of a monitor everything shows well. Doing work for magazines ads is one thing, where the viewing distance is close-up and always the same, designing for longer viewing distance is another. Obviously no one in the "graphics group" has ever had any experience at viewing fonts from a distance. That is a dead give-away that the designer had no experience with NFL uniforms. It shows up that Nike used rookie punks, as well as rookie supervisors, to do the work for the Browns.

Any sign painter worth his weight in paint would have nailed that. They're used to making signs that have limited-sized letters and numbers that have to be viewed and read from a distance. Had I been there, in any position on the design team, this folly would never have happened.

All these years this has never been a problem, not even on my old 27" floor model. I hate not being able to see who is playing due to the numbers being unreadable on my 65" HD TV.

Come-On Man!

So you'd be ok with either of those?

I agree I would prefer a darker orange but the article appeared to call for a white helment and that I think I would really dislike.

What's not to love?

Can they go back to eye gouging as well?

I would take the white helmet, as long as the elf is on the side

I hate the elf. He looks like a little, sissy boy who plays soccer and pulls the shorts down of other players.

Come on, man! What kind of "man" would choose the name "Brownie?"

I would prefer to leave the helmets but, if they did change I can deal with a solid white. The Nittany Lions look fine. BUT, don't do a garish logo like the dog or a big "B", "CB" or something. I don't even like the metallic or the gradation ideas.

That said didn't PB paint the leather helmets orange for a reason? Shouldn't that "reason" be part of our history and honored?

Why? Paul Brown went to Cintucky and hated the Browns after he was fired.

I'd have to see how they were done, but yeah, most likely.

I think that's a big problem with the new/current uniforms, that the numbers on the brown jersey don't "pop" enough. Maybe white numbers with an orange drop shadow, or outline. If we stay with orange numbers, then a full white outline, as opposed to a drop shadow.

I like the "Cleveland" across the chest, and the "Browns" down the pant leg. I really like the orange jersey and the white jersey. Heck, I would make the orange jersey the home jersey. I think they really pop.

You should reread your post he quoted.

I am not a fan of the elf either. It looks too Disney in my opinion.

I don't like the elf. A white helmet would be ok once in awhile. I watched a video of Metcalfe's two punt returns for TDs versus steelers the other night and thought those uniforms looked great. I don't mind our white jerseys, I like them actually, but I don't like the brown jerseys because of the crappy orange #s. A duller orange helmet is preferable to the brighter orange hue., but also I like the metallic orange helmet someone posted.

The Brownie with the Crown looks cool though! He's a very respected Brownie.

an Elf isn't very tough. let's face facts

The uniforms were atrocious from the very beginning. There are some combos that are more tolerable than others, but overall, they're a joke.

I'm someone that wants an actual logo as well. I'm tired of just seeing a Browns helmet for game previews or highlights. Plus, when we play on FOX, seeing just an orange square along side CLE during the game makes me upset to no end. I know that sounds crazy but it's true.

I'd love to do the ol' white helmets for one game a season.

I like being unique. Beving the only team with no uniform changes after so many years made us that. No logo makes us unique, no helmet markings does as well. I would have been completely happy without the new color and new uniforms.

I'd said many years ago that the biggest problem with uniform changes is once you change them you are then forced to change them periodically from that point on. Here we are in year two of the new uniform and already they're talking about the need for changes again.

Yeah, why not. I want anything than what we currently have. And I'm usually not one to care about uniforms.

I think ours suck

Stuck with?

I like our colors.. What's wrong with our colors?

I agree. I like our colors. It's the execution of the colors that suck.

I was hoping our uniforms would grow on me ... but we look BAD. It's just not good.

So... can we combine these threads?

Many people think orange and brown are ugly colors, especially as a combination. Obviously, you don't. And that is fine. But, I know I don't have orange paint on my walls. I don't have orange counter tops, tile, floors. I don't have orange sweaters, shirts, or pants. I would not own an orange car. The only things I can think of that I own that are orange are clothing and memorabilia. Obviously, there are exceptions........but, I bet that most people are similar to me as not choosing orange as a color for all of the things I listed.

The orange uniforms which look closer to red on TV for starts.

I agree with the helmet aspect, I don't want anything on it. I'm happy with Brown and Orange and I'm not looking for a complete overhaul per se.

And we technically already have a logo option...a dawg/dog. We have a real one attend games and a mascot of one there as well. I would like that to be made the official logo instead of a helment. Just a personal preference, that's all.

Just clicking.

I can tolerate the orange in moderation. I prefer keeping the helmets orange and no logo, but do like the metallic/burnt orange ones that have been mocked recently a lot.

Other than that, orange is ok as a stripe, and that's about it. I do not like orange jerseys or pants (and absolutely not both at the same time). And I do not like the orange numerals on the brown jerseys.

I like the brown jersey w white pants, and white jersey w brown pants.

I actually really like our Orange Tops and Brown Pants set.

I guess I'm ok with the unis.. I have no objection to seeing alternatives. But again, I'm more of a tradition guy and wouldn't want the colors to change.. if they wanted to use the same colors and redesign, I'd never have an objections.

Vers: As for painting walls orange, no of course not. But the comparison is basically nonsense.

Of course it is, Daman.

I figured he would be stubborn about it...........so, here is actual evidence:

https://blog.kissmetrics.com/gender-and-color/

Can you imagine the ridicule from the AFC North rivals especially Pittsburgh if we had a fairy logo on the side of our helmets?