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When NK exploded their first Nuke, Bush isolated and ignored. China did nothing.
As he starved his own people while building more Nukes, Obama isolated and ignored. China did nothing.
Now as NK has gotten to the point where the are miniaturizing those Nukes into warheads and on the verge of mounting them on ICBM's, you want to isolate and ignore him?
Earlier you posted about loving each other and now you discuss with me and finish with a personal insult.
Hypocrite much?
In the future I suggest you just insult me up front so I don't waste my time discussing with you.
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I'm not saying folks shouldn't have an opinion, I have one, everybody has one... but I have to say, it cracks me up when ordinary joe's in this country get all adamant on geopolitical issues about which they really know very little.
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So let's hear your idea? Just keep letting some crazy man continue to build his missile program and put no type of defense up to help our allies in case of an attack?
I'm not a hater of media, but sometimes the left tries to twist things just like the right does. Anybody who try's to this TomBoy needs to grow a set. The guy is a [censored]. We do need to seek a way to defend and take that [censored] out. He doesn't have the mental ability to be a member of the club.
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Insulted you, you aren't fit to be President, neither am I, we were discussing NK threat and you proposed something IMHO would/could start WWIII...I think the guy is paranoid dictator, but he ain't stupid, he gets nukes, then he uses them and he dies...like lots of us. I don't see that happening. Lastly, peace brother, I disagree with you LOTS on subject, but don't with you ill.
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We tried that with Castro long ago...only way to get him would be suicide mission, MAYBE get him. Plus, open whole bag of worms killing a nation leader...opens happy hunting to everyone....not good policy. JMHO
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I know a good Surgeon who can fix that lisp. not anymore, he's the HUD director now.
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Well now, look who is suddenly interested in solving the US/NK situation now that we have moved THAAD into the theater...
China’s foreign minister
China asks the US to give up war games with SK and for NK to abandon its nuclear and missile program.
His remarks at the annual session of the Chinese parliament marked the first time a senior Chinese official has intervened publicly in the Korean crisis
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North Korean Defector Tells Lester Holt ‘World Should be Ready’A senior North Korean defector has told NBC News that the country's "desperate" dictator is prepared to use nuclear weapons to strike the United States and its allies. Thae Yong Ho is the most high profile North Korean defector in two decades, meaning he is able to give a rare insight into the secretive, authoritarian regime. According to Thae, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un is "desperate in maintaining his rule by relying on his [development of] nuclear weapons and ICBM." He was using an acronym for intercontinental ballistic missiles — a long range rocket that in theory would be capable of hitting the U.S. "Once he sees that there is any kind of sign of a tank or an imminent threat from America, then he would use his nuclear weapons with ICBM," he added in an exclusive interview on Sunday. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/03/north-korean-defector-tells-lester-holt-world-should-be-ready.html“We will talk about North Korea," Trump said. "And China has great influence over North Korea. And China will either decide to help us with North Korea, or they won't. And if they do that will be very good for China, and if they don't it won't be good for anyone."
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I was unaware that That Yung Ho was a NK defector.
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Apparently he is and if what he says is true, we are only steps away from going at it with a Nuclear Power. Something I don't think we have ever done before. Scary.
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It's too bad so many "innocent" North Korean people would perish.
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Here's the thing. If Un is "desperate" in maintaining his rule, why is he focused on nukes, that would/will certainly end up destroying his country?
Why is he reliant upon other nations to feed his citizens?
If he's desperate to maintain his rule, it seems he'd be focused on improving the life of the n. koreans. Jobs, agriculture, etc. Just think what a hero he'd be if he could accomplish that.
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This is the psychology of rulers who believe they are destined to rule.
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Here's the thing. If Un is "desperate" in maintaining his rule, why is he focused on nukes, that would/will certainly end up destroying his country?
Why is he reliant upon other nations to feed his citizens?
If he's desperate to maintain his rule, it seems he'd be focused on improving the life of the n. koreans. Jobs, agriculture, etc. Just think what a hero he'd be if he could accomplish that. cause dictators will destroy their own country or die before letting a foreign nation take control while they still breath. that or get caught, like Saddam, of course. dictators can't dictate if they actually treat their citizens nicely. cause with nice comes things like democracy, fairness, etc. and lol, who wants that? certainly not a dictator. you can't have absolute power if you give the citizens any sort of meaningful say in anything.
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Because he is a "Crazy Fat Kid"!
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Here's the thing. If Un is "desperate" in maintaining his rule, why is he focused on nukes, that would/will certainly end up destroying his country?
Why is he reliant upon other nations to feed his citizens?
If he's desperate to maintain his rule, it seems he'd be focused on improving the life of the n. koreans. Jobs, agriculture, etc. Just think what a hero he'd be if he could accomplish that. cause dictators will destroy their own country or die before letting a foreign nation take control while they still breath. that or get caught, like Saddam, of course. dictators can't dictate if they actually treat their citizens nicely. cause with nice comes things like democracy, fairness, etc. and lol, who wants that? certainly not a dictator. you can't have absolute power if you give the citizens any sort of meaningful say in anything. There's like 2k years of European history on the contrary.
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like who?
Can't say hitler. he was in power for all of...how many years? 11 or 12?
can't say the catholic church. they ran more like a monarchy than a dictatorship.
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It's too bad so many "innocent" North Korean people would perish. It won't only be North Koreans dying if he gets even one of his Nukes off!
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Charles the II, many of the caesars. Pretty much anything pre-Restoration to be sure.
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Charles the II, many of the caesars. Pretty much anything pre-Restoration to be sure. man you had to go way back on that, huh?
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Charles the II, many of the caesars. Pretty much anything pre-Restoration to be sure. man you had to go way back on that, huh? I said in the past 2k years from the get go. You didn't have to Godwin the thread. Democracy is a relatively new concept for most of the world.
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I don't think for a second that they have the firepower to reach the Continental US. If they could hit us, those missiles would already be in the air.
If it were to come to a war though, they will probably hit Japan right away. Japan doesn't deserve that at all.
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They stand zero chance of touching U.S. soil. None. Japan? Perhaps, but not with the anti-missile capabilities we're deploying.
This is all just a lot of bluster, as is always the case with N. Korea.
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I am more concerned with their ability to explode a Nuke over or near our Fleet.
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I am more concerned with their ability to explode a Nuke over or near our Fleet. I wouldn't. Over the DMZ is more worrisome; but I'm mostly certain that even they aren't THAT stupid.
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I am more concerned with their ability to explode a Nuke over or near our Fleet. I wouldn't. Over the DMZ is more worrisome; but I'm mostly certain that even they aren't THAT stupid. who knows. depends on how the US goes about it. Trump already said he's willing to go it alone with regards to NK.
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I'm mostly certain that even they aren't THAT stupid. He fed his Uncle to wild dogs, poisoned his brother with a nerve warfare agent and uses anti aircraft guns to execute his rivals. I don't think stupid is part of the equation.
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You say that like those things aren't normal...
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I am more concerned with their ability to explode a Nuke over or near our Fleet. I wouldn't. Over the DMZ is more worrisome; but I'm mostly certain that even they aren't THAT stupid. It's not so much that he's stupid, it's that the juche ideology is completely out of control in that country thinks to Il. Un has pretty much grown up with the idea that his family are the saviors of Korea. That they can do no wrong, because he has the will of the people behind him. He is the great leader of the juche doctrine. Juche philosophy is built around the self reliance of people, that people are the biggest catalyst in history. However, it believes that one leader must rule all these people. That leader will have the will of the people behind him. And he bought that hook, line and sinker his entire life. Dude feels like he has to answer to no one. That he can do whatever he wants without consequence. It's insane.
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It's a weird country and weird philosophy. For example they really put a strong emphasis on maternal leadership. You could almost make a case to where the Kim family doesn't believe in the gender binary.
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North Korea fires missile as US official says 'clock has now run out' on PyongyangNorth Korea fired an apparent ballistic missile into the Sea of Japan, South Korea's military said early Wednesday. The launch came hours after U.S. President Donald Trump described North Korea's pursuit of a nuclear arsenal as a "humanity problem" and a senior U.S. official told reporters that the "clock has now run out" on Pyongyang. Seoul's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement that the missile fired from the North's eastern coastal town of Sinpo on Wednesday morning flew about 37 miles. It gave no further details. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/04/...-pyongyang.html
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