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Lest we forget:

Browns say Isaiah Crowell's apology for 'extremely disturbing' post is insufficient and must back it up with positive steps

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/07/browns_say_isaiah_crowells_apo.html

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Isaiah Crowell's video apology accepted by Cleveland police union, which won't boycott Browns games

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/07/isaiah_crowells_video_apology.html

Geez, I forgot all about that. But hey, didn't they just resign him? So all must be OK now.

I don't follow nor watch college sports much, just around draft time to see who the Browns should get.

I'm also not into Crowell like some others are here. I like him and think he's serviceable, but that's about it. I would love it if we added another running back.

My question is who's the better back, Leonard Fournette or Joe Mixon?

bottom line for me is cant I pass up a Sydney Jones or Tez Tabor for this kid that honestly seems to show no remorse whatsoever. Maybe if he is there in the 4th I could but if I see decent talent, I aint passing on it for a talented distraction.

4th round maybe, but he wont be there in the 4th so mute argument.

I let my fingers do the walkin' - that is, I Googled best running backs in the 2017 draft:

2017 NFL draft rankings: Running backs

https://www.si.com/2017-nfl-draft-running-back-rankings-dalvin-cook

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2017 NFL Draft Prospects: Running Backs

http://walterfootball.com/draft2017RB.php

If, and that's a big IF from my point of view, we draft this guy then he'd better look to donate a good chunk of his money to either the women he wrecked or at the very least a woman abuse fund of some sort. It wouldn't fix what he did but it would show that he knew that it was wrong and at least he was trying to make amends.

Just to clarify, me personally, I would not even have him on my draft board...

I want a running back in this draft. It is said to be the deepest RB class in years. However, I have no desire to have a woman beater on the Browns. There are WAY too many good backs in this draft for us to take a chance on a bum like that. If they do I will be disappointed. Didn't we learn our lesson with Johnny woman beater? Only a real POS hits a woman. No thanks. By all means, draft a running back. Just draft one that isn't face punching women.

Of course we did, we decided to erect of statue of Jim Brown the following year to show how much the organization is against that sorta thing.

Joe Mixon - RB - Player

Profootballtalk's Mike Florio passes along "palpable buzz" that Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon "could linger much longer than expected" in the NFL draft.

Per Florio, "multiple league sources who have investigated the situation believe that Mixon may be waiting beyond round two or three." Another source "suggested" to Florio that "Mixon possibly won't be drafted at all." NFL.com analyst and longtime league insider Gil Brandt recently ranked this year's top-150 draft prospects, and Mixon wasn't included. The draftnik community has seemed convinced Mixon will be drafted early in the second round.

Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports Apr 18 - 11:34 AM

Again, even if he's there in round 7, Mr irrelevant, I'd still say... who else is there.


Don't want, and we don't need, that stuff here. If you are interested in that, good read the many articles and accounts of Josh Gordon suspensions, Manziel boozing, Armonty on Xmas eve caught with...

Do I need to continue?

Here's a link to the story....

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Although he wasn't charged, there's also an allegation that Joe Mixon hit a female when he was in high school

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Mixon is bordering on undraftable at this point......


Allegation against Joe Mixon from high school could affect draft stock

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 19, 2017, 9:18 AM EDT

Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon is the most polarizing player in this year’s draft, a first-round talent who punched a woman while he was in college, an ugly incident that was caught on tape. But that may not be the only allegation of violence against a female that has teams concerned about Mixon.

Longtime personnel evaluator Gil Brandt, who kept Mixon off his list of the Top 150 prospects in this year’s draft, said today on PFT Live that a high school incident is of concern as well.

“I just wouldn’t draft him,” Brandt said of Mixon. “His problems started back in high school.”

Although the incident has been largely overlooked, a man named Anthony Hernandez alleged that Mixon punched his daughter in high school.

“I know for a fact he threw my daughter to the ground and hit her. I went to the school and . . . they hid him in the office. He got no punishment. The police even came. I was escorted off the campus as if I did something wrong. These are simply the facts, he’s a woman beater,” Hernandez said in a letter read by the lawyer for Amelia Molitor, the victim in Mixon’s highly publicized incident at Oklahoma.

Mixon has denied hitting any other women and was not charged in connection with the alleged incident in high school.

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"He only broke one woman's face. How has he treated women before that? Oh, he might've punched a girl in high school? How has he matured since then?"

You are making excuses for a man who beats women.

i probably put him on my undraftable list ... then again, my job isn't on the line

He certainly seems to be his own worst enemy.

I'd pass on him. It sounds like he could still be trouble and we've had enough drama with our Browns.

j/c......

Well somebody got paid or threatened........

High school allegation against Joe Mixon was recanted

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2017, 12:10 PM EDT

As the draft approaches, one of the most controversial prospect has a second past incident bubbling to the surface. However, the man who alleged that his daughter was struck by Joe Mixon in high school has since reversed course.

In a report read by the lawyer for the woman struck by Mixon in 2014 during her interview with police, Anthony Hernandez said, “I know for a fact he threw my daughter to the ground and hit her.” Hernandez, who made the claim originally on Facebook, thereafter recanted his claims with another Facebook post.

On March 30, 2017, Hernandez forwarded the text of the clarification to Mixon’s lawyer, Blake Johnson of Crowe & Dunlevy. On Wednesday morning, Blake Johnson forwarded the clarification to PFT.

“I have recently learned that a comment I made about Joe Mixon on social media a few years ago is now receiving a lot of attention. I want to explain that comment and clarify that I do not believe Joe ever did anything to hurt my daughter,” Hernandez wrote.

“My daughter went to Freedom High School with Joe, and they have been friends for much of their lives. Once, when they were in school together, my daughter had a minor disagreement with some of her classmates that got blown out of proportion. Like any father would, I reacted emotionally. Unfortunately, I did so before I had all the facts. Now, having talked to my daughter and investigated the whole story, I realize that I was mistaken about Joe’s involvement. I definitely overreacted, and I regret that my words might have given some people the wrong impression about Joe. I know that Joe did not hurt my daughter, did not intend to, and would not do so.

“Joe and my daughter are still good friends. Joe is a great kid with a bright future in front of him, and he is welcome in my home anytime.

“My family and I value our privacy. I hope that my statement puts this matter to rest. We will not respond to further media inquiries about this.”

Blake Johnson also told PFT that he “spoke to multiple administrative officials at Freedom High School who assured me that no such incident ever took place there,” and that Mixon’s disciplinary record from high school reveals no such incident.

“Norman Police also ran Joe’s juvenile record with law enforcement in California and they had no record of any such report or incident (or any other criminal incident on part of Joe),” Johnson said via email. “I’m fairly confident that the incident described in Mr. Hernandez’s original [Facebook] post did not happen.”

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quote in article above:

"Unfortunately, I did so before I had all the facts."

Like this one: Joe Mixon =

I must say when I started out thinking about drafting him, I felt like with our 2nd 2nd round pick, why not? But the more I read about him, the more I think we should just pass, no matter what the spot.

There seems to be alot of anger issues that pop up about him, all with women it seems. Where there's smoke...

This is one of the deepest drafts at running back in a long long time. It's not like it's this guy or nothing. There are a ton of really good RB prospects that didn't beat a woman or get in trouble. I'm hoping we draft at least one and possibly two of those guys. We don't need Mixon when there are so many good kids available. Grab one or two of them and to hell with the woman beater. Let some other team deal with that headache!

So if he was 17 and he punched your daughter dead in the face, you'd give him a break because he was young?

There's a lot of things a young person may do that he'd grow out of in a few years: stealing, vandalism and drugs all come to mind. But I think a first twitch reaction to punch a woman in the face shows a deep lack of respect that's not something you "grow out of". That's not something you later "learn" better. It wasn't a logical decision in the first place and there's no logic in deciding that it's the wrong thing to do.

If you get into a fight with a woman, which happens, and you don't see her physical body as totally off-limits for a beat down, (as you would your mother), then you have deep issues that a mere punishment or the passage of time will not cause you to "learn" better.

That's just my opinion.

Let's both hope you're right. I don't trust him.

Did the lamb hold out?

Well we all know Jim Brown outgrew it.

Smoke and fire....we have facts- we had facts with Gordon and Manziel....JMHO...pass, we don't need the POTENTIAL bad PR....GO Browns!!!!

Wouldn't have STARTED A FIGHT? So the woman in question deserved to get punched in the face because she started it? This is a fact. Any man that punches a woman in the face is a piece of [censored]. Period. Once a woman beater always a woman beater. The point of it being your daughter is she is someone's daughter and you try to pass it off as youthful exuberance. Youthful missteps would include drugs, booze, etc. Beating up a girl isn't a misstep. It's ASSAULT. Like you say, if it was YOUR kid you'd kill him, but since it wasn't you act like it was nothing. Same crap a lot of people said when Johnny was beating his woman. She was drunk and deserved it.... A pathetic excuse. There are a lot of good young RB prospects in this draft. Why take the chance on a woman beater? By the way, if it was my daughter we wouldn't be having this discussion. Believe that. You want to make punching a woman out to be acceptable? I thought better of you.... my mistake.

None of this is true.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...hing-woman-2014



http://newsok.com/article/5361807

The woman and her friend went inside to avoid the situation. He followed them in. He later agreed to a plea deal because he was guilty.

You are wrong.

It is fine if you want Mixon to be on your football team, just don't try and justify his actions.

Again, you say SHE was the aggressor so.... your stance is she deserved it. You believe that excuses him punching her dead in the face. He IS a RUNNING BACK is he not? So he couldn't run away why exactly? Was she too fast for him? But you are right it was 2013 so no matter what he did it is WAY in the past. Had he lit her on fire it wouldn't matter. It was 2013! Ancient history. *snicker* He's a wonderful human being and a credit to mankind. LMAO If you were a Steelers fan I imagine you would be making up excuses for tiny ben sexually assaulting two women wouldn't you? They were drunk so... He was young so.... They were wearing so....That was a long time ago and he hasn't done it since so.... None of that makes him any less a POS sexual predator.