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5th Round (#168): OT Spencer Drango - played in 16 games starting 9

^^That's good contribution from a 5th round pick

Louis and DeValve flashed


Drango was pretty solid too. I don't think anyone expected him to be a stud but I think he overachieved. I think he could be a capable starter so to have him as our 6th man in training is quite a steal for the 5th round imo. If bitonio or zeitler go down in the next few years I don't think the OL will falter.


Drango played a lot, but I think it was more due to all the injuries than how good he was. It'll be interesting to see how the OL shakes out this season with the guys we added.


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Because of Drango, Coleman, Rodrick Johnson, Greco, and even Irving our OL is not only drastically improved but also has excellent depth ...


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Drango was a very good pick; he has been more than solid. Plus, I love the name.

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
Because of Drango, Coleman, Rodrick Johnson, Greco, and even Irving our OL is not only drastically improved but also has excellent depth ...


WHOA.... let's gear 'er back a bit.

Of the five linemen you mention, Greco and Drango are the only ones that present any benefit to the O-Line. Erving has only shown the ability to get pushed around. Coleman barely played and didn't really flash at all. And Roderick Johnson, from scouting reports, kinda sounds like another Erving- soft.

There's a difference between having depth and QUALITY depth. There's no doubt our O-Line is improved but its primarily due to the FA pickups.

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I think it's laughable when we grade players that have never played in the NFL. Let's grade last year's draft, now that we have a sample size.

I give a B-, it was a strong effort to trust the process.


In regards to thread topic, I gotta say we're a C.

Coleman- Looked ok but was hurt for a big chunk of the year and didn't look as good when he came back.
Ogbah- Consistent and improved through the season. He was probably the best pick.
Kessler- Biggest surprise and hope he takes a step forward second year.
Nassib - Looked good at the start but fell off hard. I think he'll be better in a 4-3.
Coleman- Did jack.
Louis- Looked good when he made a play. But we rarely saw him
Kindred- Can hit but looked lost in coverage
Schobert - Didn't do jack
Payton - I think he caught one ball?
DeValve- Same story
Higgins- where was he all year?
Drango - looked ok when he was in and not overmatched. Might be our diamond in the rough.
Caldwell - Practice Squad
Wright- Practice Squad - signed by AZ

Following this season, this may become a great class if Nassib develops, Kessler blossoms and the WRs produce. But as of now, its pretty meh.

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Originally Posted By: CanadaDawg
Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
Because of Drango, Coleman, Rodrick Johnson, Greco, and even Irving our OL is not only drastically improved but also has excellent depth ...


WHOA.... let's gear 'er back a bit.

Of the five linemen you mention, Greco and Drango are the only ones that present any benefit to the O-Line. Erving has only shown the ability to get pushed around. Coleman barely played and didn't really flash at all. And Roderick Johnson, from scouting reports, kinda sounds like another Erving- soft.

There's a difference between having depth and QUALITY depth. There's no doubt our O-Line is improved but its primarily due to the FA pickups.


By your definition there isn't a single OL in the league with quality depth. You may want to take a look at the talent around the league. I would argue Greco being the strongest 6th man in football and 5th round picks don't usually start at 9th or 10th on the depth chart. Usually 6th if you're lucky. The starters may be top5 or 10(on paper) but we have the best bench in the league of say.

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Originally Posted By: predator16
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Because of Drango, Coleman, Rodrick Johnson, Greco, and even Irving our OL is not only drastically improved but also has excellent depth ...


WHOA.... let's gear 'er back a bit.

Of the five linemen you mention, Greco and Drango are the only ones that present any benefit to the O-Line. Erving has only shown the ability to get pushed around. Coleman barely played and didn't really flash at all. And Roderick Johnson, from scouting reports, kinda sounds like another Erving- soft.

There's a difference between having depth and QUALITY depth. There's no doubt our O-Line is improved but its primarily due to the FA pickups.


By your definition there isn't a single OL in the league with quality depth. You may want to take a look at the talent around the league. I would argue Greco being the strongest 6th man in football and 5th round picks don't usually start at 9th or 10th on the depth chart. Usually 6th if you're lucky. The starters may be top5 or 10(on paper) but we have the best bench in the league of say.


Au contraire mon frere.

I would define as excellent depth as having the backups being solid linemen that are able to spot start on good teams and start on bad ones. Who on our bench fits that... Greco. Drango is a reach.

Listen, I love the moves made on the O Line this year. Zeitler and Tretter are huge upgrades. Greco as a swing guard/centre guy is great. My opinion is that we still have a significant hole at RT. At this point, I'd actually be in favour of bring Pasztor back.

If someone can step up at RT and Roderick Johnson shows ability, then I would agree with you. We've got a good oline group. Lacking those two spots, we have some issues.

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I'm not trying to argue with you I promise but you say these things while refusing to give an example of a team that does have excellent depth. You're entitled to your definition but if no one fits the description then the definition doesn't truly exist. If there is no team that has better depth than we do then how are we not "excellent"? Prove you've done your homework to make such claims. I know I have

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I suspect that the Browns will try to find a RT out of Shon Coleman, Spencer Drango, and Cam Erving.


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Do you remember where any of the Draft gurus ( Kiper and such ) had Erving ranked coming out of College ..

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
I suspect that the Browns will try to find a RT out of Shon Coleman, Spencer Drango, and Cam Erving.


Coleman and Drango entice me the most as of now for the RT spot.

Thomas, Bitoni, Tretter, Zeitler and Coleman/Drango... sounds nice.

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Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Do you remember where any of the Draft gurus ( Kiper and such ) had Erving ranked coming out of College ..


He was ranked high. It wasn't seen as a reach when we selected him. At least by those folks. He was figured to be mid-1st to 2nd round pick


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Thanks , if it didn't happen 5 min. ago I can't remember , lol .. I didn't think he was a reach ( in the Draft world ). Had high hope as he came off as a super good kid !

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99% sure Coleman will be our RT. It seems he has worked the hardest for it so far and considering he had the best talent for the position that is a good combination. Obviously I'm not there to know for certain. Just my educated guess!



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I would like to see Bitonio stay on the field for a whole season as well !

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