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I think the Dems are out to prove that Trump fired Comey to impede the investigation, if they do it's goodnight Trump Administration.

What eff is a little tighty lmao

“I will tell you this, Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

DJT

Gee, why didn't he just ask them over the phone since you say he was one of them?

So, to everyone: Let's say what mac posted is true. (I only quoted you, mac, because you put it all fairly concisely).

So, if Comey was "too close" to the truth, Trump "had" to fire him?

Like, "phew. Now that I fired him, I'm save"?

There's more than 1 person that works for the fbi. In fact, I would guess hundreds of agents were working on this.

That information doesn't go away simply because Comey was fired. And further, the new director of the fbi would be able to question comey anyway. Plus, all the other agents involved.

What am I missing?

No doubt in my mind that using the handling of the Hillary situation is nothing more than a Charade as a reason to fire Comey.

Trump and Sessions and the rest of his appointees and confidants do NOT seem to want this investigation to go forward. WHY?

They are clearly afraid of something, I don't know what, but something.

For me, the more they protest and the more they try to brush it off, the more I want to have it go forward with an independent person running the investigation and the deeper I want them to look.

If there is nothing to see or feal, Trump needs to get out of the way. If there is nothing to fear, show us your tax returns.

Come on Donnie.... Get with the Program. Show us the goods, open up to the people you serve and work for.

If people would just think with their heads instead of their emotions they would realize if anything was found connecting President Trump and the Russians, it would have been leaked immediately.

Nothing to see here. Moving on.

See this is the part I don't get. When people say things like that, I guess they must want us to just shut up and go away without knowing the facts.

I want the facts. I'd think you do also.

He has. He had the people he works for in the Whitehouse Oval Office yesterday.

No one wants you to shut up and go away.
We just ask that you try thinking with your heads instead of your emotions.
The FACT is, everything Trump thinks says and does is Leaked the next day. There is nothing to link Trump with the Russians or we would already know about it.
Does your head really tell you that our Military intel, our CIA, the NSA, or anyone else in the know, would allow a President, connected to the Russians, to be in charge of Nukes while facing down North Korea in a possible Nuke war?
Think!

Richard Nixon when asked to do his impression of the majority of facial expressions made by Cleveland Browns head coaches...

Trump's intel bosses reiterate: Russia meddled in election

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-intel-bosses-reiterate-russia-meddled-election-155658636.html

Washington (AFP) - Six top US intelligence officials told Congress Thursday they agree with the conclusion that Russia acted to influence last year's election, countering President Donald Trump's assertions that the hacking remains an open question.

Asked whether they believed the intelligence community's January assessment that Russia was responsible for hacking and leaking information to influence the elections was accurate, all six spy and law enforcement bosses appearing before the panel said "yes."

They included Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, CIA director Mike Pompeo and acting FBI director Andrew McCabe, newly installed after Trump fired the agency's chief James Comey this week.

In an overview, Coats told the panel: "We assess that Russia is likely to be more aggressive in foreign global affairs, more unpredictable in its approach to the United States, and more authoritarian in its approach to domestic policies and politics."

He also cited and quoted the intelligence community's annual "Worldwide Threat Assessment" released today, which details past, present and future threats from Russia.

"Moscow has a highly advanced offensive cyber program, and in recent years the Kremlin has assumed a more aggressive cyber posture," it says.

"This aggressiveness was evident in Russia's efforts to influence the 2016 US election, and we assess that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized the 2016 US election-focused data thefts and disclosures, based on the scope and sensitivity of the targets."

The assessment comes amid a mushrooming crisis for the Trump team as questions swirl over why the president fired his FBI director, who was overseeing an investigation into Russian election meddling and possible connections between Trump campaign associates and Russia last year.

Trump has repeatedly denounced as "fake news" the accusations that members of his circle coordinated or colluded with Russian officials.

Asked again late last month in a CBS News interview whether he believes Russia tried to interfere in the election, Trump said "I don't know... Could've been China, could've been a lot of different groups."

Hope trump doesn't fire those six guys, as well.

What was one of the last things Comey said before he got fired?
"I feel ‘mildly nauseous’ to think I may have swayed the election"

Now, knowing Trumps personality, sitting and watching Comey say that, how do you think Trump took it?

I bet a hundred bucks he turned to someone in the room and said, "Oh, now he is nauseous that I was elected!"

"Put your complaints in writing guys because I am gonna fire this jerks arse!"

So now you're argument is that the FBI director hurt his feelings, so now he's gotta go?

That's sounds very snowflakish.

Try humiliating your boss on national tv and see how a snowflake collects an unemployment check.

Trump took something as an insult that wasn't meant to be an insult.

#triggered

Acting FBI director contradicts White House’s claim about Comey’s support within bureau

https://www.yahoo.com/news/acting-fbi-di...-171528015.html

Welp, this guy might not be there for long, either. Trump is about to fire people like he's back on the apprentice.

Stating the obvious is now considered an insult. Anyone could see that Comey clearly influenced the election.

It is not always what you say but how it is taken in real life.

Trump does not tolerate disloyalty. Never has.

But according to you guys it was the Russians who did that.

I guess everyone influenced the elections and it had nothing to do with Hillary sucking.

There's plenty of factors, including Hillary sucking.

That doesn't change the fact that the Russians still tried to influence the election.

The excuses are getting weaker and weaker by the post. Mike pence won't be able to hook bro up with a Pardon, either.

Oh yeah. No, HRC lost the election. She was very dumb. But Russia's hacking helped. Comey screwing up the Anthony Weiner thing was crazy.

FBI, D.C. office, currently raiding group connected to GOP fundraising based in Annapolis, Maryland. Significance? Annapolis is totally out of their jurisdiction.

This is a matter of national concern.

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Yeah hundreds of thousands of emails turned into a measly 12 emails in which non where marked as classified and it took the FBI and all their resources another week to sift through all 12.

Rut row...more embarrassment for the tighties no doubt. Everyday it's something new, just like WG.

The FBI is a federal agency. There is no such thing as Outside Of Their Jurisdiction, if its inside the United States. I thought you were a teacher.

Their so tight when they fart garage doors open in a 4 mile radius.

Here's the thing that really sticks out in my mind.

There are so many leaks coming out from those surrounding Trump you would have to conclude that even they are worried about corruption or his sanity.

Or both.

The only problem with that is, the F.B.I. is supposed to be independent of politics. Politics and the F.B.I. aren't supposed to be the same thing.

I wonder how many conservative tears we would have seen had Obama fired Comey in the middle of the Hillary investigation by the F.B.I.?

Never mind, I already know. At least Obama kept it classy.

You fail to understand the FBI Director serves at the discretion of the President. Cry about that.

You are right. Obama should have fired Comey when he was investigating the Hillary e-mails.

If he intentionally impeded the investigation of himself, that is impeachable.

I'm not sure why people on the far left are so giddy with the thought of a Trump impeachment. I mean the president would then be Mike Pence.

I think Pence is far more level headed and doesn't look like the village idiot. I think he looks the role of president much more.

But if anyone actually believes policies will change or be more left leaning, they would be in for a huge disappointment.

I'm still trying to get caught up on this situation. Pretty crazy firing... I say that as neither a bad nor a good thing, but it was a little surprising.

This guy makes some unique observations, as he often does:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/160515646406/the-comey-firing

The Comey Firing

What do Bernie Sanders’ hair and CNN have in common today? They are both saying, “Comey” every time you look at them.

The news coverage of Comey’s firing has become excellent entertainment. This is the biggest cognitive dissonance cluster bomb we’ve seen since election night. This one has everything.

For starters, the topic is too complicated for the public, and even the pundits. That creates a situation in which we’ll all invent our own version of the movie in our heads. Where there is confusion, complexity, and emotion there is usually lots of cognitive dissonance. We got all of that.

My cursory understanding of the topic is that Trump’s critics say he fired Comey to put a chill on the FBI’s investigation of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. This theory sort-of-almost makes sense, in a hypothetical and indirect way. I could see how taking out the top dog would make the underdogs at the FBI worry about going hard at the President. On the other hand, the people doing the actual investigation are professionals, and there would be too many witnesses if they did a bad job. So that doesn’t pass my sniff test. But I can’t rule it out, either.

President Trump’s official reason for the Comey firing has to do with a loss of confidence over his handling of the Clinton email investigation. The beauty of that official explanation (true or not) is that it is making heads explode with Democrats and the Opposition Media. How dare President Trump fire the person we publicly demanded he fire!

Now we have a bizarre situation in which both sides (Demcrats and Republicans) wanted Comey fired, but they had different reasons for wanting it. Democrats were upset that he might have torpedoed Hillary Clinton’s campaign by talking about the Weiner laptop discovery of additional Clinton emails close to Election Day. And Republicans hated Comey for not pursuing a criminal case against Clinton for her email server misdeeds. That’s the perfect set-up for cognitive dissonance. I’ll explain:

Democrats and the Opposition Media reflexively oppose almost everything President Trump does. This time he gave them something they wanted, badly, but not for the reason they wanted. That’s a trigger. It forces anti-Trumpers to act angry in public that he did the thing they wanted him to do. And they are.

Trump cleverly addressed the FBI’s Russian collusion investigation by putting the following line in the Comey firing letter: “While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau.”

That one odd sentence caused every media outlet to display the quote and talk about it, over and over. And when you focus on something, no matter the reason, it rises in importance in your mind. President Trump, the Master Persuader, made all of us think about the “not under investigation” part over, and over, and over.

The trick here is that members of Trump’s campaign might be the ones under investigation, not Trump himself. But that’s where the complexity of this topic is useful to the Master Persuader. The viewing public won’t make that distinction. All they will hear – over and over – is the “not under investigation” part.

I’ve taught you in this blog that the right amount of “wrong” is what captures our attention and creates a memory. Trump’s odd inclusion of the “not under investigation” line is just wrong enough that we can’t move past it. It is persuasion-perfect.

The best explanation I have heard for the timing of Comey’s firing is that it comes soon after the Assistant Attorney General was confirmed, and he is Comey’s official boss. You need a proper boss for a proper firing. And it came right after Comey embarrassed himself by getting some facts about the Clinton email situation wrong in front of Congress. There is no perfect time to fire a person, but this was close to perfect.

My favorite part of this firing – from a persuasion perspective – is that it is such a strong move. The pure dominance of the play is what will stick in our minds. This was some ballsy Presidenting. That’s the lasting takeaway. You’ll remember the boldness long after you forget the timing and the details.

I’m also fascinated by how quickly the media turned on Comey after he was out of office. Apparently lots of people were afraid of him. No one mentioned that fear BEFORE he was fired, so I assume they really were afraid of him. Now people on both sides can’t stop yammering about how scary he was. Clearly it was a good firing for the country, regardless of the timing and the details.

My opinion of Comey’s handling of the Clinton email issue remains the same. I believe he sacrificed his career and reputation to avoid taking from the American voters their option of having the leader of their choice. If Comey had pushed for Clinton’s indictment, the country would have ended up with a President Trump without a “fair” election. That was the worst-case scenario for the country and the world. Comey prevented that disaster while still making it clear to the American public that Clinton was not guilt-free with her email server. He let the voters decide how much weight to assign all of that. In my opinion, Comey handled the Clinton email situation like a patriot. The media is spinning the situation as “making it all about himself.” That’s true in the same sense that a Medal of Honor winner who jumped on a grenade to save his buddies is “making it all about himself.” I don’t disagree with the characterization that Comey was trying to be the “hero” because that’s how it looks to me too.

I once heard a story about a guy who pulled a woman out of a car that was on fire. He got burns on his arms doing it. He saved her life, but I don’t like him because he was trying to be a hero. That guy made it all about himself.

I’m sure Comey had his flaws. But I don’t think his handling of the Clinton emails was among them. I assume historians will think otherwise.

It has leaked! Numerous times! That's why he's so mad about leaks!

The connection will not be blatant, it will be many things that add up to the entire picture. Nobody is going to come out with pics of Putin handing Trump stacks of cash...

Your naivety in this matter is overwhelming! You can't see what's right in front of you and you are going to be so hit in the mouth when he goes down that I truly worry about you. It's sad when your demigod falls from grace.

The timing of it looks very suspicious. The Hillary thing was months ago so it's hard to believe that excuse. Yet one week after Comey asks for more resources to further investigate the Trump campaign, bam, he's gone.

Now I don't claim to know or even point to what the truth may be. However, from outward appearances, something is rotten in Denmark.

Another thing, if the Hillary e-mails and the F.B.I. director was such a problem, why didn't Obama fire him? Did Obama understand that when you fire someone investigating their own, the result of that action would appear highly suspicious?

I don't think Pence would be as dangerous. I think he's more mentally stable. But I still wouldn't like his Presidency either.

As for giddy, I'm not. I just think Trump is at minimum incompetent and at worst a traitor. I'd like to know which since he's POTUS.

Before you throw around that 't' word, can you do us all a favor, and detail for all of us exactly what you think Trump did? Be specific.

Two separate things here 40. Hillary was a terrible candidate #1.

#2 is a combination of many things about Russia. Russia flooded social media with fake news for the American idiot to lap up, driving them to support Trump (proven already). Russia was behind the hacks that exposed HRC's emails and Podesta's Emails. Trump showed RUssia a lot of love on the campaign trail. Many people in trumps camp had/have Russian connections via business, meetings, etc. etc.