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Oh, I think that was Perfect being funny.....I think.

Watergate Part Daux LOL

You know what's crazy?

The story was actually dying down in the media. The investigation is ongoing, and the media and the public was focusing on other issues, like healthcare and tax reform.

And yet, trump decides to bring this issue right on back to the top of the discussions. The guy seriously has no one to blame for this except himself.

When you fire 3 people who are investigating you, you can't then turn around and act all surprise as to why it's such a major story.

And then these tweets. You seriously threaten a guy on twitter who you just fired?

Either he's guilty, or he's incompetent. Either option sucks, but for the sake of the country, let's hope it's just incompetence.

I'd rather it be guilty.. That we can deal with by simply impeaching him. Incompetence is odd,, probably something harder to prove and I would think a tougher sell for impeachment.

But that's just me.

Trump calling Comey a showboat seemed very odd.

I mean, Coming from Trump to call anyone a Showboat..... Just strange...

What Russian stuff ? But then agatn the e-mail stuff, the Ben Gazi stuff the facist IRS stuff all went away so I guess you are used to that b.s.

They found 12. None where marked as classified but the Russians still were awarded the other day. You know, in the White House when the Russian press was allowed in to cover the secret meeting and the U.S. press was barred from covering it.

I think Trump is still upset that Comey said there was no evidence of wire tapping which is why he said there better not be any tapes. He brought the wire tapping up again yesterday in an interview.

petty is as petty does

While what you say has some merit, let's look at the results, shall we?

There were investigation after investigation into Hillarys e-mails. Don't get me wrong, no matter which politician or party, if corruption is there, I want to know. So I wasn't calling for Comeys head. But as you pointed out, many Dems were.

There was only one person with the power to fire him at the time, Obama. What Obama had the common sense to do, was not to fire him in the middle of an investigation. Not to put politics above a federal investigation. It would have been Obama siding with Hillary on the surface no matter the actual grounds of the firing. I'm not going to argue the point of whether Comeys announcement before the election had any actual baring of the outcome, because none of us really knows and Hillary was a horrible candidate anyway.

What looks so suspicious on the surface is that Trump fired Comey in the middle of an investigation of the very people that surround Trump.

Now I have no way of knowing whether these investigations will have any results that involve the Trump campaign. Much of what's going on are issues of national security and none of us are privy to that information and those things won't be revealed until these investigations are complete.

In short, claiming there's nothing to see here in the middle of an investigation is as pointless, without merit and dishonest as those saying it will lead to his impeachment. Both extremes in this debate are being silly.

Paranoia in a leader is a scary thing.

So sick of this stupid crap. Interupting my soap every freaking day! Dear News People, I dont care! Let the 24 hour news channels report it.

Yes it is.. Very scary.

You mean the "Fake News" that president Trump talks about all the time?

The ones that report on his idiotic tweets? Those 24 hour news channels?

I can see why you'd want to watch your soaps....

Im talking about ABC doing a breaking news special reports everytime Spicer cracks his mouth.

Lol yea that would upset me too. Throw that crap on the other networks

Damm it ... why is Christie or Rudy not on the shortlist ... they'd put that POS bi**h where she belongs ...

Damm it ..

LOL They both have their own cover up's to deal with.

Clapper refutes Trump: ‘I don’t know if there was collusion or not’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clapper-refutes-trump-dont-know-collusion-not-180540949.html

The one guy trump and his voter base clinge onto as proof there was no collusion just put an end to that.

Well......

Well .....Clapper is next to go.

He's next to go? .. did Bill and Hillary get upset over something ... cause unless there involved .. i'm pretty sure there will be no "car accidents" or "heart attacks" or "suicides" ..

People who wish to live in the past only do that because they can't defend the present.

Stay thirsty my friend. lol

The lawyers who wrote a letter saying President Trump had no significant business ties to Russia work for a law firm that has extensive ties to Russia and received a “Russia Law Firm of the Year” award in 2016.


https://www.yahoo.com/gma/donald-trumps-...topstories.html

This is starting to get creepy. Is everyone on the trump team corrupt?

And they are super bad liars.

May 12, 2017


Russian hacker claims FBI offered him citizenship and a new life if he would confess to hacking Podesta emails on behalf of Putin and Trump


By Thomas Lifson



According to a report in Newsweek by Tom O’Connor, a Russian hacker who had been detained in Prague at the request of US authorities, was visited multiple times by FBI agents, who pressed him to confess to hacking the Podesta emails at the behest of Putin, and to help Trump. They allegedly (and unsuccessfully) offered generous inducements, to say the least.

Yevgeniy Nikulin, 29, has found himself in the middle of an international dispute between Washington and Moscow, at the very center of which lies U.S. allegations that Russia sponsored a series of hacks targeting Democratic Party candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in favor of Republican candidate and current President Donald Trump. On October 5, 2016, days before U.S. intelligence publicly accused Russia of endorsing an infiltration of Democratic Party officials' emails, Nikulin was arrested in Prague at the request of the U.S. on separate hacking charges. Now, Nikulin claims U.S. authorities tried to pin the email scandal on him.

Nikulin was detained in the Czech Republic for allegedly hacking the servers of major sites LinkedIn, Dropbox and Formspring between 2012 and 2013. While awaiting trial, he claims in an undated letter reportedly given to U.S. Russian-language news site Nastoyashchoe Vremya by Nikulin's lawyer, Martin Sadilek, that the FBI visited him at least a couple of times, offering to drop the charges and grant him U.S. citizenship as well as cash and an apartment in the U.S. if the Russian national confessed to participating in the 2016 hacks of Clinton campaign chief John Podesta's emails in July. (snip)

Nikulin said he refused the deal, but U.S. officials threatened to return. He claims the visits occurred in mid-November 2016 and on February 7 of this year. Czech television has reported at least one FBI visit earlier this year, according to The Guardian, which cited an FBI spokesperson as saying the agency was "aware of the situation," but declining further comment. The FBI is seeking to extradite Nikulin to face trial in the U.S., something he and his lawyers are trying to fight.

So if we are to believe this account, the FBI under James Comey was willing to offer the Whole Package – citizenship and a new life – in order to be able to pin the leak of Podesta’s emails on a Russian in service to the elusive “collusion” between Trump and the Russkies. Such a generous offer, the sort of thing offered to high level enemy defectors, must have crossed Comey’s desk, if it didn’t originate there.


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017..._and_trump.html

FBI activity in Annapolis linked to search warrant of GOP consulting firm

Search tied to case run out of bureau’s Washington office

By Sally Persons - The Washington Times - Thursday, May 11, 2017

FBI activity observed underway in Annapolis, Maryland, Thursday has been linked to a Republican consulting firm.

An FBI spokesperson could only confirm that there was law enforcement activity downtown, but could not provide any further details.

“All we can confirm is that we’re out there conducting law enforcement activity on Main Street in Annapolis,” the spokesperson said.

Local reporting links the site of the activity to the Republican consulting firm Strategic Campaign Group and that the FBI is executing a search warrant. The warrant is reportedly part of an investigation into the firm run out of the FBI’s Washington office and is not considered a local case.

The consulting firm’s website describes their services as both fundraising and campaign consulting, including voter contact through direct mail and telephone, for candidates nationwide.

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Do you think James Comey had to be fired?

Here's what I see: both sides thought he had to go, but for different reasons. I think he got caught in the political crossfire and because both sides didn't like how he handled things, he was going to be out of a job sooner or later regardless.

There's really no good time to fire somebody. You make a good point that doing so in the middle of such an investigation is particularly bad timing. At best it is bad optics, at worse it implies there is something to hide.

What exactly is the reasoning behind the latter explanation, anyway? I imagine there are hundreds of FBI agents working on this case, and their political views are likely as diverse as the political views among us DawgTalkers. It's not like they can all be silenced. And after firing James Comey and needlessly prodding him, it seems to me that Comey himself could reveal harmful details about Trump if he chose to.

I guess what I'm asking is, how would firing Comey after several months of investigation really benefit Trump in regards to this investigation if that were indeed Trump's agenda? I find it unlikely that the FBI needed another ten months under Comey's guidance to find evidence of some grand conspiracy of collusion.

Report: Comey’s Brother Works for the Law Firm That Handles Clinton Foundation’s Taxes

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May 12th, 2017


Ousted FBI Director James Comey’s ties to the Clinton Foundation and the conflicts of interest that lie there are too close to not raise red flags.

James Comey worked several years in the public and private sector.

Comey served as general counsel at Lockheed Martin until 2010 when he departed with over $6 million to show for it. That same year Lockheed Martin became a member of the Clinton Global Initiative and “won 17 contracts from the U.S. State Department, which was led by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,” Big League Politics reports.

Comey just so happened to have joined the board of the British bank HSBC Holdings in 2013, which just so happens to be a Clinton Foundation partner.

Noting all of this, one of the most important conflicts of interest is Comey’s brother Peter Comey’s role at the Washington law firm DLA Piper, where he serves as “Senior Director of Real Estate Operations for the Americas”.

As Big League Politics reported, “DLA Piper’s offices [shortly before the election] . . . confirmed that the law firm immediately [patched] callers through to Peter Comey’s direct line there.”

DLA Piper is one of the top ten all-time career campaign donors for Hillary Clinton. On top of this, DLA Piper also happens to do the Clinton Foundation’s taxes. DLA Piper performed the 2015 audit of the Foundation when the scandal first broke.

Big League Politics reports:

Property records show that James Comey owns the mortgage on his brother Peter Comey’s house in Virginia. Therefore, James Comey had a direct financial relationship with a DLA Piper executive at the time he was investigating Clinton.

These relationships, though egregious, are symptomatic of the brazen culture of crony capitalism that exists in our nation’s capital. The public usually is prevented from learning these kinds of things, with the mainstream media blocking information from coming out. Sunlight is the only remedy.

When President Donald Trump finally fired James Comey as FBI director, Tucker Carlson said that everyone in Washington knows it was well past due.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/...ndations-taxes/

PSST. Wake me up when there's something to defend ....

Well at least he didn't send a message to VLAD that he,ll have more flexibility at a later date and would be willing to allow his Sec. of State that he would sell him all of our uranium [for profit of course]to help their nuclear development now that is something we should get to the bottom of if he did that, DONT YA THINK.

Good point!

Comey who?

Homey Comey, the swinging seat under Humpty Trumpty... Ya know, the one that causes his fall.

No, I don't believe he "had to be fired".



Once Trump said this, things began to look VERY ugly to me.....

“In fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.”

Comey is a Republican.

We were told for days that the reasoning behind the firing was due to a report from the Justice Department. Then Trump said he made his mind up before that on his own.

For anyone with an open mind the situation looks shady as hell. I believe it's time people open their minds to the constant inconsistency that comes out of this White House.




Agreed.



I don't believe it's as cut and dry as you make it sound. For one thing anything within the investigation is top secret and can not be discussed by Comey or anyone else. Secondly, it would come as no surprise to me that whoever Trump appoints simply drops the investigation. If so, there will be no doubt left in my mind the actual reason for firing Comey.



I believe we first need to see if whoever it is Trump appoints stops the investigation or not. There are a lot of questions here still unanswered.

But as you pointed out, it's bad optics "at best".

He declined a private interview with congress for a public one.

Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation


By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDTMAY 16, 2017
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WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo that Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.

Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence an ongoing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified,

“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey, according to the memo. “He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”
Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey that Mr. Flynn had done nothing wrong, according to the memo.

Mr. Comey did not say anything to Mr. Trump about curtailing the investigation, only replying: “I agree he is a good guy.”

In a statement, the White House denied the version of events in the memo.

“While the president has repeatedly expressed his view that General Flynn is a decent man who served and protected our country, the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn,” the statement said. “The president has the utmost respect for our law enforcement agencies, and all investigations. This is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey.”

In testimony to the Senate last week, the acting F.B.I. director, Andrew G. McCabe, said, “There has been no effort to impede our investigation to date.”
A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment.

Mr. Comey created similar memos — including some that are classified — about every phone call and meeting he had with the president, the two people said. It is unclear whether Mr. Comey told the Justice Department about the conversation or his memos.

Mr. Trump fired Mr. Comey last week. Trump administration officials have provided multiple, conflicting accounts of the reasoning behind Mr. Comey’s dismissal. Mr. Trump said in a television interview that one of the reasons was because he believed “this Russia thing” was a “made-up story.”

The Feb. 14 meeting took place just a day after Mr. Flynn was forced out of his job after it was revealed he had lied to Vice President Mike Pence about the nature of phone conversations he had had with the Russian ambassador to the United States.

Despite the conversation between Mr. Trump and Mr. Comey, the investigation of Mr. Flynn has proceeded. In Virginia, a federal grand jury has issued subpoenas in recent weeks for records related to Mr. Flynn. Part of the Flynn investigation is centered on his financial ties to Russia and Turkey.

Mr. Comey had been in the Oval Office that day with other senior national security officials for a terrorism threat briefing. When the meeting ended, Mr. Trump told those present — including Mr. Pence and Attorney General Jeff Sessions — to leave the room except for Mr. Comey.

Alone in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump began the discussion by condemning leaks to the news media, saying that Mr. Comey should consider putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information, according to one of Mr. Comey’s associates.

It's all but over for Trump now. This memo is the final nail I think.

You've been saying that for quite a while now.

I guess we'll see.

Great, now I'm going to waste 45 minutes watching his vid's. Thanks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/po...ation.html?_r=0

Simply put, Trump asked Comey to end investigations into Flynn, and Comey refused. The guy is finished....it will be known as "The Comey Memo"

I voted for Trump too, but this kinda stuff happens in private sector business everyday. However, doing this stuff in public service violates ethics laws and is wholly illegal. Obstruction of Justice pretty much which is a felony.

Trump literally just doens't realize you can't do this kinda stuff in public service where Ethic Laws passed after Watergate simply don't allow it.

This guy will either be impeached or be forced to resign...one of the two.

What a shame, I voted for the guy too, but I can't go along with such unethical behavior...that kinda stuff, just like corruption has no place in the Oval Office.

The sad thing is the Vice President is even worse then Trump is...god help us...

Well, at least you have a line.

There are supporters who are gonna go down with this ship no matter how bad it gets.