Which is pretty sad considering he's easily the second through fifth best player this team has drafted since the return.
So what? We should have never drafted him to begin with. He was damaged goods. And we gave up a future second rounder for this POS supplemental pick that failed miserably.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Which is pretty sad considering he's easily the second through fifth best player this team has drafted since the return.
So what? We should have never drafted him to begin with. He was damaged goods. And we gave up a future second rounder for this POS supplemental pick that failed miserably.
I wish all of our draft picks would fail as miserably as Josh Gordon.
Which is pretty sad considering he's easily the second through fifth best player this team has drafted since the return.
So what? We should have never drafted him to begin with. He was damaged goods. And we gave up a future second rounder for this POS supplemental pick that failed miserably.
I wish all of our draft picks would fail as miserably as Josh Gordon.
Really?
I decent year, one All Pro year, and 3 years of next to nothing.
When he came back from his 10 game suspension, he didn't know the offense at all. He was a "throw it up and hope he's in the right spot" target. His being out of position on the field adversely affected other receivers, and the QBs.
The team started to count on him in 2015. Suspended again.
They started to depend on his last year. Suspended yet again. He screwed draft prep, at least to so degree. He had the team starting to believe that he could be a contributor, but no.
He is, in no way, reliable. He is self-destructive, at least as far as his career is concerned. If we count on him, then shame on us.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Just because one guy failed doesn't mean the other succeeded.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Browns' Josh Gordon went to rehab again recently in hopes of getting reinstated next month, report says
Updated on August 25, 2017 at 9:14 PM Posted on August 25, 2017 at 8:46 PM
By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Josh Gordon went to rehab again two months ago in cooperation with the NFL to try to get reinstated late next month, according to a report.
Jason Cole of BleacherReport has the report, according to sources.
If it's true, it's at least the fourth time Gordon has been to rehab since he was drafted by the Browns in 2012.
The most recent time was last September, when he left the Browns in the middle of his conditional reinstatement to focus on his recovery.
Just because he went to rehab it doesn't necessarily mean he was actively using right up until he walked in the door. He could be going back for the continued support and structure. Recovering alcoholics go to AA meetings for years even though they aren't drinking. Why? Structure and support. Not saying he wasn't using. Just saying that it's not an absolute that he was.
From what I read many view it as a positive that he recently checked himself into rehab as he is showing he is serious and focused about staying clean.
From what I read many view it as a positive that he recently checked himself into rehab as he is showing he is serious and focused about staying clean.
I really hope he finally gets it and gets reinstated and comes back to the support system of being on a team. top 5 wr when playing. We would be dumb to not let him prove it, he's still young, cheap and we have nothing at that spot. Kizer would benefit having someone like Josh to throw to
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
Just because he went to rehab it doesn't necessarily mean he was actively using right up until he walked in the door. He could be going back for the continued support and structure. Recovering alcoholics go to AA meetings for years even though they aren't drinking. Why? Structure and support. Not saying he wasn't using. Just saying that it's not an absolute that he was.
Someone serious about their recovery will go to meetings for the rest of their life, not just "for years"
That said, there is a distinct difference between rehab and AA/12-Step meetings. You go to one to get clean/sober and you keep going to the other to stay clean/sober. Unless you're going back to a house you actually rehab'd at to volunteer so as to help others, NOBODY goes to rehab just for the support - you're doing it to get clean/sober.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Gordon hasn't played in the NFL in the past 3 seasons.
There is no way he can be in anything remotely approaching NFL condition, and he would have to learn Hue's offense from scratch.
If Gordon is reinstated, I hope the Browns do thew right thing and cut him. He has burned up his 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th. and 6th chances, (at least) and is not someone we need around this young team.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Just because he went to rehab it doesn't necessarily mean he was actively using right up until he walked in the door. He could be going back for the continued support and structure. Recovering alcoholics go to AA meetings for years even though they aren't drinking. Why? Structure and support. Not saying he wasn't using. Just saying that it's not an absolute that he was.
Someone serious about their recovery will go to meetings for the rest of their life, not just "for years"
That said, there is a distinct difference between rehab and AA/12-Step meetings. You go to one to get clean/sober and you keep going to the other to stay clean/sober. Unless you're going back to a house you actually rehab'd at to volunteer so as to help others, NOBODY goes to rehab just for the support - you're doing it to get clean/sober.
Good post.
And if that is the truth the article I posted could just be a spin of sorts to make you think he just went there in hopes of getting reinstated next month. But who knows for sure?
Just because he went to rehab it doesn't necessarily mean he was actively using right up until he walked in the door. He could be going back for the continued support and structure. Recovering alcoholics go to AA meetings for years even though they aren't drinking. Why? Structure and support. Not saying he wasn't using. Just saying that it's not an absolute that he was.
Someone serious about their recovery will go to meetings for the rest of their life, not just "for years"
That said, there is a distinct difference between rehab and AA/12-Step meetings. You go to one to get clean/sober and you keep going to the other to stay clean/sober. Unless you're going back to a house you actually rehab'd at to volunteer so as to help others, NOBODY goes to rehab just for the support - you're doing it to get clean/sober.
Good post.
And if that is the truth the article I posted could just be a spin of sorts to make you think he just went there in hopes of getting reinstated next month. But who knows for sure?
like Jeff Spicoli
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Which is pretty sad considering he's easily the second through fifth best player this team has drafted since the return.
So what? We should have never drafted him to begin with. He was damaged goods. And we gave up a future second rounder for this POS supplemental pick that failed miserably.
I wish all of our draft picks would fail as miserably as Josh Gordon.
Me too! Lets hope Coleman gets suspended year after year because he's an idiot. That would be sweet would it? Let's hope Miles Garrett gets thrown out of the league so often it's like he doesn't exist....
Are you insane? You REALLY wish all of our young players fail like meathead? Meathead is a LOSER. He doesn't care about the team or his teammates nor does he give a crap about the fans. He cares about himself and smoking weed. Period. Here's hoping we NEVER draft another meathead.
I really hope he finally gets it and gets reinstated and comes back to the support system of being on a team. top 5 wr when playing. We would be dumb to not let him prove it, he's still young, cheap and we have nothing at that spot. Kizer would benefit having someone like Josh to throw to
Sure he can come back no problem. LMAO You think the NFL is easy? You think a guy that hasn't played in YEARS can just walk right on to a football field and stud out? Hardly. IF he can get his stuff together, and that is a BIG if, that doesn't mean he can still play. He hasn't played in what? 3 years? 4? But hey, lets put all our hopes into the meathead basket.... He's our hero. *snicker*
I'd rather the players flounder off the field than on the field. Preferably neither happens. But We had 6 selections (including Josh Gordon) in the 2013 NFL and none of them are currently on the team. And only one of them has put up any production. If all of our draft picks played at an all-pro level, it'd seriously help this team be watchable. They'd probably win a lot more. Probably wouldn't need to get high just to play for the Browns
the sad thing is, that was 4 years ago ... those players should be our STUDS right now ... in their prime, impact players ... but NONE of them are even on the roster. Sad
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
j\c Geez dawgs so many having a problem with a young man smoking a few joints and having a few drinks he,s being treateted like he disrespected the country by kneeling during the national anthem on national TV...... now that would really hurt the NFL I think JMHO
It's not the fact he smokes some weed and drinks, it's the fact the NFL has told him "if you want to play don't do that" and he continues to do it. That's why I highly distrust draft prospects who get popped for drugs at the combine. You KNOW they will be drug testing you and you don't have the will, control nor discipline to lay off it for a month says so much ch about that persons character. Manziel is another perfect example, it's why no o e else in the league will touch him
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
It's not the fact he smokes some weed and drinks, it's the fact the NFL has told him "if you want to play don't do that" and he continues to do it. That's why I highly distrust draft prospects who get popped for drugs at the combine. You KNOW they will be drug testing you and you don't have the will, control nor discipline to lay off it for a month says so much ch about that persons character. Manziel is another perfect example, it's why no o e else in the league will touch him
LeVeon Bell is also a perfect example...of why the process is complete BS. Not agreeing or disagreeing with your point...just sayin'.
I see this year's annual Gordon hype is less involved and etc. I think the fan base is finally realizing that yes, he's a monster on the field but he's too stupid off it for it to matter.
Or, he might have an addiction problem, which can happen to anyone, whether they live in the projects, or amongst the upper crust of society.
If he's "addicted" to marijuana then he's got a seriously deep seated problem because marijuana isn't addictive. Guys who can't put it down long enough to hold a job are generally immature and self-destructive. I've known plenty of people who put it down for years and years so they could earn money. So I'm going with Josh Gordon has a problem that doesn't have as much to do with the drugs he chooses to consume than with his thought process. Nobody pays someone like that millions of dollars to do much of anything.
Now the guy who collapsed on the sidewalk in front of my house last night, he's a real addict. Fell off his bicycle and pretty much stopped breathing. That's the thanks his body gives him for feeding it quality heroin. An addict's body throws a royal fit if he doesn't keep it supplied with dope. I've never seen a marijuana user go through withdrawal. And I have no idea how someone could smoke their self to death. Calling a weed smoker an "addict" is kind of missing the point.
He's history. It's a shame the Browns ever wasted a draft pick on him in the first place.
"Let people think this is a dumpster fire," - Mike Pettine
Or, he might have an addiction problem, which can happen to anyone, whether they live in the projects, or amongst the upper crust of society.
If he's "addicted" to marijuana then he's got a seriously deep seated problem because marijuana isn't addictive. Guys who can't put it down long enough to hold a job are generally immature and self-destructive. I've known plenty of people who put it down for years and years so they could earn money. So I'm going with Josh Gordon has a problem that doesn't have as much to do with the drugs he chooses to consume than with his thought process. Nobody pays someone like that millions of dollars to do much of anything.
Now the guy who collapsed on the sidewalk in front of my house last night, he's a real addict. Fell off his bicycle and pretty much stopped breathing. That's the thanks his body gives him for feeding it quality heroin. An addict's body throws a royal fit if he doesn't keep it supplied with dope. I've never seen a marijuana user go through withdrawal. And I have no idea how someone could smoke their self to death. Calling a weed smoker an "addict" is kind of missing the point.
He's history. It's a shame the Browns ever wasted a draft pick on him in the first place.
So much misunderstanding in this post. For real. You follow the common misperception that thinks that the physical addiction is the real addiction instead of simply an outwardly visible symptom of what actually is real addiction, which is the mental and emotional compulsions to use.
The reality is that once a person detoxes and breaks that physical addiction, it is done and gone. Three days of suffering and out.
So - what is it that takes a person back out two weeks, two months, two years, or even two decades later after being completely sober for the entire intermediary??? It is the mental addiction to the feelings the substance(s) give the user, and it is the personality type of the alcoholic/addict.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I agree w/what you are saying and I would like to add that people assume he is just using marijuana. We don't know that. He had pill bottles, a pipe, and alcohol in that one pic he put out a few years ago.
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