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I don't know it is was being out of shape or he played darn near every snap. Face it, he is a big guy. Big guys are going to do their thing for a few seconds, if it isn't their way, they are going to jog to a cutback lane.

You can't have everybody sprinting to the ball. You do have to cover cutback lanes.

Why?

We did. There isn't anybody in this draft who can get in to a backfield quicker than Caleb "the Bull".

LOL peen, you are just like mac. Only polar opinions. LOL

Who would pay these damages? The Girl? Insurance? I doubt she's got $5 to her name. I said it before and I'll say it again just another gold digger.

Do you know her personally? Were you there?

All you have to do is read page 1. There are posters there that have him guilty and hung already and other posters that say they don't put it past the FO to draft this type of player. What else do you want?

Whats that got to do with who pays the damages?

LOL.........have a nice night, bleed.

I have watched him for a good while. My opinion is solid. I have explained myself on his "lack of hustle". He husteled a lot. He also wanted to make a impact in the 4th qtr.

Quit acting like 300 lb interior players should be running 20 yards on each play, 70 plays a game. To me a interior lineman has 10 yards to each side of his position, then look for a cutback. It's not his job to be chasing down backs 20 yards away. There are other players on the field.

You obviously don't understand that the college game has changed right before your very eyes. I told you about the spread 10-12 years ago, but you and others didn't listen.

Don't blame me because I have been sticking up for him the whole time. I have held 4 Gator season tickets for over 35 years. I have a ear or two on the ground down there. I was pretty comfortable this was going to be the outcome. That is why I have made a few pleas in his defense, both on the PREVIOUSLY pending case and his play.


So, all that said, lets just high five and be happy we got a high second rounder in the 6th round. Nobody can complain about that.


Oh.....I am not like Mac. I answer questions and reply to comments.

Brantley is the steal of this draft. You are going to cheer for him my friend. You are going to cheer for him.

peen, I meant that you praise every move the FO makes, which is just like mac bashing every move the FO makes.

I don't praise every move. I think this year was pretty good. Last year not as good, but not to sound like I am praising them, but they hadn't been together for very long. A key player, Depo, more or less sat out the draft process.

Thank you for posting that whole statement, Memphis.

I'm no lawyer or anything, but that was a pretty strong statement. It definitely doesn't sound like Brantley benefiting from a technicality. He even mentioned that little bit about how acceptable it is to push or strike a female that's significantly smaller.

I didn't think that this one passed the smell test.

Now, we just got to set up the giant hamster wheel with the Snickers bar on a string that's just out of reach.

I was certain I had seen this - but needed to go dig before I posted it!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...picks-afc-north

A beautiful article .... the quick cliff notes version:

Bengals Best Pick - 2nd round - RB Mixon. Known and proven to have decked a girl in 2014.

Browns worst pick - (drum roll) - 6th round - Caleb Brantley!! Questionable claim that he was involved in an incident where he allegedly struck a girl but even at the time of the draft independent (neutral) witness stated that was not true.

Just assuming both draft picks are of low moral character and need to quickly re-evaluate their priorities in life when they enter the NFL ... one was a high 2nd round pick, the other was a 6th round pick 140+ spots later....

What a joke.

Dude, the Bengals picked Mixon. Who else? He's like, a perfect profile fit for the type of characters they want there.

People want to praise and say that's their best pick, then they're almost as low IMO.

Exactly. This writer sprouts praise to the Bengals for taking an admitted woman beater in the 2nd but admonishes the Browns for taking a player in the 6th that hadn't even had charges brought up on him, which of course were later deemed bogus.

Nice job jerkface.

Not sure I agree with that. If he was a first rounder he would have a 5 year deal, but he was pretty solidly slated for top / mid second round. They get 4 year deals. I thought that all players drafted get 4 year deals. Am I wrong on that?

To re-enter the draft would be stupid. I don't see anything good about that move and don't even see it as a realistic possibility.

Yes, it appears all drafted players get a 4-year contract. First rounder have that 5th year team option. Sucks for Caleb, but he is eligible for a PPE:

...players drafted between rounds 3 and 7 who are only eligible for a proven performance escalator (PPE). Fifth-year options allow teams to hold on to the rights of their first round draftees for an additional year, assuming that they inform the player that they are picking up said option between the off-season of their third and fourth contract years. Alternatively, the proven performance escalator allows players selected later in the draft to receive additional compensation assuming they participate in at least 35% of their team's defensive or offensive plays during the first 3 years of their deal.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer...s/#3631d38a6f04

That would seem like it would only kick in for the 4th year. But hey, a 35% raise would be pretty cool for anybody.

I don't know, maybe it's just me but the writer seems to be facetious against the Bungles. I don't take anything he says about them as being a "good" pick

The Ray Rice video ruined his career. Mixon got drafted in the 2nd round. Things that make you go hmmmm.

While I agree with the premise, Rice was a grown adult when he hit his girlfriend. Mixon was an 18 year old when he hit a stranger that acted like a fool towards him first. Rice was also approaching the end of his career. Mixon is just getting started.
In NO WAY am I condoning either's actions, I'm just clarifying where I think there is a difference in their situations as possibly perceived by a FO.
Both are scum for hitting a woman.

Pit, it's funny that you should mention "things that make you go hmmmmm" My daughter & I were walking around the store and I kept saying hmmm. Finally She just looks at me and I said Things that make you say Hmmm.

Concerning Mixon, I was at first for drafting him until I read that story about him throwing that ticket in the face of the girl at the parking lot. I think the guys got women issues which I think lead to anger issues, unless he gets help he will be another Pac-man. No Thanks

Best pick: Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma (Round 2, No. 48 overall)
The skinny: I had no issue with the teams that removed Mixon from their draft board due to character concerns, but this pick gets the nod here because of its potential to be a great value -- Mixon was one of the top running backs available. He gives the Bengals a player who can handle the roles of both Jeremy Hill and Gio Bernard. Of course, this pick turns into a disaster if Mixon is involved in another off-field incident in the future.

I don't think he's being facetious .... I just don't think he realizes how incredibly moronic that 2 different takes are when read together. That's before Caleb was exonerated.... Maybe we're reading it differently?

Thats a different take on Mixon. The one I read was just a couple of lines. If this is the same one just expanded then yeah I don't think he was being facetious. I guess some people just never learn.

I think you're trying to split hairs like many do sometimes. Mixon was 18 as you say.

You do realize that many children as young as 12 and 13 get tried as adults in our nation, right? You do realize that the age of 18 is when you are a legal adult, right?

If you commit a bank robbery at 18 or at 31 society will try you the same way with the same sentencing guidelines.

Besides, how many posters on this board would have been stupid enough to knock a girl out cold when we were 18?

While I'm not trying to argue the point, I think what you propose is nothing but rationalization.

Absolutely. So you understand, I agree. I was merely splitting hairs from a front office perspective. Not my own. Scum is what I called both.
Though I will say my 18 year old self was more capable of doing stupid reactionary crap than my 30 year old self. Never as far as to hit a woman but I certainly matured and learned patience and better use of rationale in many other areas of my life.

Just clickin'

Was listening to Mike and Mike this morning (yeah - my fault. I am an enabler) and they were in the middle of discussing Brantley when I turned it on. I may have been mistaken, but I think the gist of the conversation was whether or not Cleveland should keep him on the roster now that the charges have been dropped.

Seriously? It's not like he "beat the rap" or was acquitted or cleared of charges. There are no charges. That's the absolute best possible outcome from our end. Why in the heck would there be a question of keeping him on the roster now that the charges have been dropped?

...and that's precisely why you shouldn't be listening to that show.

I assume you are discussing Mixon?

If so, he has had other incidents after punching that girl in the face.

Last season, in November, he tore up a parking ticket, and threw it at the officer who wrote it. (a female officer) There were also reports that he threatened her, as well. He deserved jail for the attack on the young lady he punched in the face. He should have been tossed off the Sooners team for his 2nd violation.

I just read this and my first thought was, of all the guys that were considered low character guys with some off field issues, which one imploded while on the Bengals Roster?

I can't remember one, but that doesn't mean anything. I don't really follow them closely.

Anybody got a name of a guy that they gambled on and failed?

Chris Henry literally jumped off a moving vehicle, killing himself instantly while on the Bengals.

Pacman Jones can't stay out of trouble. Vontez and Pacman cost the Bengals their first play off win since 91. That's just off the top of my head.

Caleb joins Myles in signing today:

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...a8-f1651043e8e2

Boom!

I think it's the fact that he seems to have trouble with females
along with anger issues.