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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
There's also the whole thing to be a disciple that you had to give up your job, possessions, and such like that...


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Wouldn't God want you to place others in front of worrying about wealth due to taxes?


Cornelius was a Roman Centurion. He was a very wealthy man, and he gave of his resources to provide for his family, and to help others.I think that's what God wants of us. People misunderstand tithing as well. The tithe was God's portion of the promised land, that He gave to the children of Israel. Jesus said that we should give what we can, and with a cheerful heart. He specifically mentioned the widow who put a a pair of minor coins into the collection pot, while others easily gave their 10%, sometimes even making a show of it.

As far as taxes, Jesus did say to give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and we should pay out taxes. However, our political system allows for changes, and for representation of our interests. Taxes are just one slice of those interests, and we can vote for changes.

I will also add that people bring up the Bible in situations like this, but I know that Jesus will be more concerned with how easily sin is accepted as choice in our society than taxes. This is especially true about the things He specifically addressed in the Bible.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

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In the meantime, Un has launched an ICBM that he peed himself over when announcing, "We are a full-fledged nuclear power that has been possessed of the most powerful inter-continental ballistic rocket capable of hitting any part of the world".

Trumps reply, "Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"



All aboard the Trump Train!



Pretty sure I see some recognizable posters on that ride.

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I love how compassionate these libs here are for the children that haven't even been born yet but have no problem subjecting children to perverts in public bathrooms,or subjecting them to the craziness of sanctuary areas that let rapists, robbers, murderers roam freely in public, or allowing planned parenthood clinic leaders to sell late aborted body parts for personal financial gain but hey their political agenda comes first.


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What about individuals who choose to vote for an individual who advocates sexual assault, looks to slash programs that benefit the impoverished, and is anything but a moral role model?

Isn't that basically voting for sin?

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You're handed this precious gift, right? Each one of you granted redemption from the Creator – murderers, rapists, molesters – all of you just have to repent, and God takes you into His bosom. In all the worlds and all the universe, no other creature can make such a boast, save man.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
What about individuals who choose to vote for an individual who advocates sexual assault, looks to slash programs that benefit the impoverished, and is anything but a moral role model?

Isn't that basically voting for sin?


Let's leave the Clintons out of this.


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Enough of this dog and pony show. It's time for us to start shooting down these missiles as they're launched. Screw China....stop buying the garbage they manufacture.

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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
Enough of this dog and pony show. It's


We could wipe NK off the map in a day, no matter what their missile capability is.


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Wouldn't God want you to place others in front of worrying about wealth due to taxes?

Those are two different things.. Jesus did want us to place others needs in front of our own.. He also had a significant distrust for the governments of man...


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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
Enough of this dog and pony show. It's time for us to start shooting down these missiles as they're launched. Screw China....stop buying the garbage they manufacture.


Shooting down their missiles is an act of war, giving them a chance to hit first.
If we go the Military route, I believe it should be all or nothing. Attack and destroy all we can while limiting damage to South Korea as much as possible.

Otherwise, we learn to live with the NK threat. Welcome to the Nuclear Nations Club, launch one and you will cease to exist as a people. Sucks but it has worked for everyone else for all these years.

In the mean time we install listening stations and missile systems in South Korea to keep an eye on NK and that just happen to be capable of reaching into China.

This will upset China but oh well. Also, China claims to want a buffer between the West and themselves which is provided by NK. We could give them that buffer zone by making NK a dead zone to all living things for the next 100,000 years.

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Everyone buying into this ICBM media madness needs to read a bit more.

They may have the rocket, but they're still years away from shrinking the warhead down to where it needs to be.

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And it wasn't all that long ago they were "years" away from having an ICBM.

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But does it have to be a "traditional" war?


Nope, we have "Twitter" as the weapon of choice. rofl


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
What about individuals who choose to vote for an individual who advocates sexual assault, looks to slash programs that benefit the impoverished, and is anything but a moral role model?

Isn't that basically voting for sin?


We are imperfect people, and man did we have imperfect candidates in this last election. God uses imperfect people foe His plans every day. Clinton certainly abused her office(s) for her own benefit. Using your own train of thought, wouldn't it be a sin to vote for her?

If God were to only a perfect person for His plans, Jesus would have to return to the earth, and a whole lot of people would be in trouble then.

There were lousy candidates, from a morality aspect, in this last general election. People had to decide which of the flawed candidates would do the best job as President. They chose Trump, in no small measure, because he spoke about the concerns they had.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
And it wasn't all that long ago they were "years" away from having an ICBM.




Yup not all that long ago. 6hrs ago there was this from the BBC.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40503558


"Experts believe Pyongyang does not yet have the capability to miniaturise a nuclear warhead, fit it onto a long-range missile, and ensure it is protected until delivery to the target.
They say many of North Korea's missiles cannot accurately hit targets.
But others believe that at the rate it is going, Pyongyang may overcome these challenges and develop a nuclear weapon that could strike the US within five to 10 years."


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They chose Trump,in no small measure, because he spoke about the concerns they had.


While 3 million more voters chose Clinton over Trump


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While 3 million more still chose Clinton


Which doesn't matter one bit. Winning California by 4.3 million votes doesn't earn that candidate anything except the electoral votes. Winning NY by 1.5 million didn't earn Clinton anything except their large electoral vote total. Those 2 states earned Clinton 84 electoral votes.

People don't always vote in Red or Blue states. If it were a popular vote, then maybe turnout would be stronger across the nation.

Further, in a popular vote election, the candidates would have campaigned much differently. They would have spent on media in states that were considered lost under the current system. Someone used the analogy of winning by having the most yards, instead of having the highest score. I think that's accurate. The game would change completely, whether yards, or popular vote.


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But does it have to be a "traditional" war?


Nope, we have "Twitter" as the weapon of choice. rofl


Foreign policy via Twitter. And the right applauds it. lmao


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If it doesn't matter one bit, then don't ever claim trump won due to the people.

He won due to the system. The people made it clear by 3 mill who they preferred.


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Trump won because he won according to the legal process in place for the election in which he competed.


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all you did was say in a different way that he won because of the system.

whatever helps you sleep at night.


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all you did was say in a different way that he won because of the system.



I guess if you consider our Constitution as "the system" you would be correct.
Luckily it ain't about you, it is about America!

The Electoral College is embodied in the Constitution in Article 2, Section 1, and in the 12th Amendment. ... The function and details of how the Electoral College meets and how they vote was changed in the 12th Amendment.

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Which doesn't matter one bit.


It does to 3 Million American voters. That's a damn good start for 2018.


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Trump won because he won according to the legal process in place for the election in which he competed.


And there was that Russian thingy. rolleyesdevil


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Imagine how much trump would have won by if all the folks in Cali and NY alone that are on the public dole couldn't vote ... there BOUGHT VOTES ... there's no difference between bribery and what most in Cali and NY are doing .. hey ... 80% of everything i have was/is given to me by the dems .... but we can't talk about it cause its the truth and doesn't fit well with the libs talking points ..

Forget about all the illegals and dead folks voting in those two states alone ... but once again ... shh ... it doesn't fit well with the libs and there talking points ...

FREE FREE FREE ... thats there rallying cry .... GIMME ME GIMME ME GIMME ME ...




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And if it wasn't for the left media lying,cheating and not reporting the truth abour Barry Soreto or whoever his name is he wouldn't have won either lol

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The Democrat Party has become a by-coastal Party and can only win on those coasts.

The North, South and Middle have gone Republican. thumbsup

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Don't forget about all the illegal aliens who voted.


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Trump won because he won according to the legal process in place for the election in which he competed.


And there was that Russian thingy. rolleyesdevil



You mean that thingy with absolutely no evidence of? That thingy the fake news network CNN admitted its all garbage? Keep trying man.

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It's that thingy that a GOP lead congress, a GOP lead Senate and a GOP appointed special prosecutor are investigating. Yeah, that thingy.


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Pitt spreading that #FakeNews.

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Adriana Cohen: Investigations into election collusion are just a hit job

As real information emerges, it looks more and more like a hit job on President Trump and his administration fabricated by a witches brew of anti-Trump forces including the Obama administration, partisan DOJ/FBI officials and Democrats salivating at the notion of impeaching Trump — to steal the election from Republicans — with an ethically challenged left-wing media pushing fake news regularly. Add establishment Republicans such as U.S. Sen. John McCain, who helped fuel the fake scandal by giving the now-discredited Russia dossier to the FBI to investigate.

Not only has there been zero credible evidence to warrant any of the costly investigations to date — despite a year of digging by anti-Trump forces — we now learn the widely debunked dossier published by BuzzFeed — with an assist by CNN — was commissioned by a pro-Hillary Clinton oppo research group to take down Trump.

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While that's all very interesting 40, what does Kim Jung-un think?


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While that's all very interesting 40, what does Kim Jung-un think?



He must think this thread went from about him, to religion, to politics, and back to him again. rofl

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40, the Libthingy's just won't let the Russian thingy go!

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40, the Libthingy's just won't let the Russian thingy go!


YES! I read that and it brought back fond memories of bashing the previous generation of Libs! rofl

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
It's that thingy that a GOP lead congress, a GOP lead Senate and a GOP appointed special prosecutor are investigating. Yeah, that thingy.

I have friends who live in DC, they are very upset at the fact that they are not currently being investigated (that they know of) because everybody else in DC seems to be under investigation for something... they feel left out.


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Is Obama violating the Logan Act? Obama has also met with Merkel to discuss the border wall.


President Obama May be Breaking the Logan Act by Conniving with Foreign Governments Behind President Trump’s Back


Jim Hoft


Jul 5th, 2017





President Obama is engaged in acts that may go against the Logan Act which prohibits Americans from committing treason by acting with other governments against the US.

A summary of the Logan Act follows:

The Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization.
Congress established the Logan Act in 1799, less than one year after passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts, which authorized the arrest and deportation of Aliens and prohibited written communication defamatory to the U.S. government. The 1799 act was named after Dr. George Logan.
Disgraced President Obama ended his Presidency with the worst economic results since the early 1900’s and the Middle East on fire but this has not stopped him from meddling in foreign affairs with foreign governments around the world.  For example, last week President Trump met with the leader of South Korea and this week fallen President Obama arranged a meeting with the Korean leader.  If the President discussed any topics related to US policy which do not agree with President Trump’s policies, the discredited former President likely broke the law.



Based on Obama’s policies, attitude and actions during his fallen Presidency, the shamed President Obama is likely committing treason and should be investigated and if guilty, held accountable.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/...nt-trumps-back/

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