DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Your predictions on imminent US action against North Korea? What do you think?

If him doing horrible things to his people is a reason for military action, then I have a list of countries in Africa and South America that needs to us military assistance.

But we never talk about those countries.

That was cool.

You can't be serious. NK tests an ICBM on July 4th and says its a gift to the American Bastards! You really going to trust this psycho with nukes? Moral authority? Holy crap the whole world looks to us for leadership...wait a minute, they only look for leadership when it comes to handouts....sorry my bad

I didn't understand anything you said. Are you gonna post an actual rebuttal or can I expect this nonsense from you on a regular basis?

If you can't handle his rebuttal, just say so.

NK..........swish, just do a bit of research on what they think of the u.s., add in their ignoring the u.n., add in what they are doing. Then connect the dots.

It's obvious what you don't understand....hence your made up posts.

So you're not gonna answer the question?

Cool, so I can expect nonsense from you. You trumpians are on a roll.

Just so I got this straight .......to you if we showed that we tried enough to end NK's threatening posturing but they continue the threats, that's justification enough for a first strike attack on NK?

Really?

Did you get that from MSNBC? I do believe if you read what I said you will see I said, "PROVE" not "SHOW".

If we must take military action it will be a good thing to be able to Prove we did everything possible Diplomatically because you and others will be calling us murderers the day after military action.

Ok then....Just so I got this straight .......to you if we proved that we tried enough to end NK's threatening posturing but they continue the threats, that's justification enough for a first strike attack on NK?

You continue to use the term "First Strike" as if I said Nuclear Strike. Is that what you are trying to get at?

No, you're just assuming that. Are you seriously ok with the U.S. striking NK first? Yes or No?

Your words are below......

If NK continues to threaten the US and continues to launch missiles and test their Nukes in order to develop missiles with warheads small enough to Nuke the US, after we have exhausted all diplomatic efforts, after we have allowed Japan and South Korea to have their own Nukes for self defense, yes, we are justified in taking them out.

We must be prepared for the day after when you and others start calling us murderers.

No, you're just assuming that. Are you seriously ok with the U.S. striking NK first? Yes or No?

Your words are below......



Ahhh that's it.

Forward thinking of you 40 to be setting up the future war tribunal defense for this administration when it starts a world war by attacking a country based only on threats. Got it now.

If NK continues to threaten the US and continues to launch missiles and test their Nukes in order to develop missiles with warheads small enough to Nuke the US, after we have exhausted all diplomatic efforts, after we have allowed Japan and South Korea to have their own Nukes for self defense, yes, we are justified in taking them out.

We must be prepared for the day after when you and others start calling us murderers. [/quote]

Ahhh that's it.

Forward thinking of you 40 to be setting up the future war tribunal defense for this administration when it starts a world war by attacking a country based only on threats. Got it now. [/quote]

I know you and your kind. The accusations will come, the murder charges will be spewed, the Tribunal will be demanded.

Not only do we fight for American lives but we must also fight the enemies within.

If a country just bombs another country based only on threats or dislikes and not by military attack against them and millions die in such a war. The leadership of the country that started that war would need to answer for that action agreed?

I don't know about any of you, but I'd rather take Jong Un out first rather than wait for him to do what he said he was gonna do and lose our own people just for some of you on the left to feel good about what military action comes afterwards.

Pretty sure we'd have done that if we could. The option of killing millions of NK innocents while taking Lil Kim out is ok now. Got it.

The option of allowing millions of Americans to be killed when you could have prevented it is Treasonous.

So you are willing to kill millions of innocents because of a perceived capability, and not an actual action or crime. Ok I see where you stand now. No worries.

What's ironic is that 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan wanted to develop and deploy a missile defense system such that anything fired at the US would never get here.. it would be detected and shot down over the ocean.. Democrats gave it derogatory names like "Star Wars" and fought the idea with all they had...

Sure would be nice to have started that 30 years ago, it would probably be fully operational by now and Kim could do whatever he wanted and we would swat it down like a ping pong ball...

Now, 30 years later, we are having the conversation of who should be more willing to put millions of their people at risk of a nuclear attack from a funny hat wearing despot...

Article is from 2013. Updated 2016

U.S. to bolster West Coast missile defenses against N. Korean attack

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon announced Friday it will spend $1 billion to add 14 interceptors to a West Coast-based missile defense system, responding to what it called faster-than-anticipated North Korean progress on nuclear weapons and missiles.

In announcing the decision, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said he is determined to ensure protection of the U.S. homeland and stay ahead of the North Korean missile threat. He acknowledged that the interceptors already in place to defend against potential North Korean missile launches have had poor test performances.

“We will strengthen our homeland defense, maintain our commitment to our allies and partners, and make clear to the world that the United States stands firm against aggression,” Hagel told a Pentagon news conference.

The Pentagon intends to add the 14 interceptors to 26 already in place at Fort Greely, Alaska. That will expand the system’s ability to shoot down long-range missiles in flight before they could reach U.S. territory. In addition to those at Greely, the U.S. also has four missile interceptors at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif.

Hagel said the 14 extras should be in place by September 2017 but will not be deployed until they have been adequately tested.

James Miller, the undersecretary of defense for policy, said the project would cost about $1 billion.

Miller and Hagel said the U.S. will conduct environmental studies on three additional potential locations for interceptors in the United States, including on the East Coast, as required by Congress. Hagel said no decision on a particular site has been made, but the studies would shorten the timeline should a decision be made.

Miller said that would provide options for building an interceptor base on the East Coast or adding more interceptors in Alaska, should either approach become necessary due to further future increases in the threat from Iran and North Korea.

The threat of a missile strike from North Korea was the rationale for building the missile defense sites in Alaska and California during the administration of President George W. Bush. Technical difficulties with the interceptors slowed the pace at which they were installed at Greely and Vandenberg.

“Our policy is to stay ahead of the threat — and to continue to ensure that we are ahead of any potential future Iranian or North Korean ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) capability,” Miller said in a speech Tuesday at the Atlantic Council.

Miller noted that last December, North Korea launched a satellite into space, demonstrating its mastery of some of the same technologies required for development of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

“Our concern about Pyongyang’s potential ICBM capability is compounded by the regime’s focus on developing nuclear weapons,” he said. “North Korea’s third nuclear test last month is obviously a serious concern for all nations.”

North Korea recently threatened to reduce Seoul to a “sea of fire” and stage pre-emptive nuclear attacks on Washington.

“North Korea’s shrill public pronouncements underscore the need for the U.S. to continue to take prudent steps to defeat any future North Korean ICBM,” Miller said in his speech Tuesday.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2013/03/15/u-...-korean-attack/

So Yeah ... go ahead and fast forward to today...

The United States holds a significant advantage in the field of comprehensive advanced missile defense systems through years of extensive research and testing. The US and the UK also have both laser weapons and 360 degree laser shields in development, which are expected to be ready for military use soon or already are. Many of the obtained technological insights were transferred during the Clinton and 2 Bush admins from the strategic defense initiative (star wars) to subsequent programs and would find use in follow-up programs.

So defending our country by attacking NK over missile tests and verbal threats is stupid and poor judgement IMO. But I expect we may just see the U.S. start World War III over this little turd in NK. Oh Joy.

I'm not advocating for a pre-emptive strike but it sounds like we aren't all that close to having a dependable system in place.. we are deploying more systems that test poorly... Doesn't exactly give you that warm fuzzy that your family is safe behind this system.

Well to be fair, you don't know what kind of percentages they're talking here. Like 50 out of 100? Or is it 2 out of 10,000? Technically, the last one still qualifies as "poor test performances" and it's not like the press is going to expound on a quote like that.

If you are developing a system, whose only goal is to keep nuclear weapons from reaching the United States.. then I'd say shoot for 100% effectiveness, anything below that would be considered poor test performance.

THAAD anti missile system test...

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=83a_1499804750

I'd bet our missile defenses test better than North Korea's missiles.

Where do you live? Because if you live anywhere west of the rockies, or know somebody who does, that is exactly what you are doing.. you are betting those lives on it.

Well we shouldn't start a war over speculations of missile capability. But I imagine it's a high possibility considering the present leadership.

Yeah, waiting for them to blow up L.A. first would be a smarter move.

Because of the present leadership?

You are whacked, man.

Yes... That's what they're doing anyway, "betting" those lives. Those people bet their lives when they moved there from everything else. However, what is the alternative? Not make anymore missile defenses? Let's be real here, North Korea cannot get a nuclear warhead onto their ICBM. They also have had a fair amount of failed tests, that we know of, from their missiles. We're talking about a country who is a 3rd world dictatorship, whose only means of furthering their weapons program is to luck into some blueprints.

I used the words "considering the" not the words "Because of" But coming from you that's high praise. Thanks

That would really suck for Mexico .... sad part is .. that statement is more true than false today ...

Now wait, I gotta tink on this one a might.

While you're thinking, just remember that was a satirical post.

Our missiles are actually testing very well lately. That being said, DC is right. The best way to make sure DPRK missiles can't hit us is to not let them have one that can.

North Korea firing squad carries out public executions in school yards, report says


Kim Jong Un's brutal North Korean regime shot so-called "criminals" to death in schoolyards and fish markets in a twisted attempt to create an "atmosphere of fear" throughout the dictatorship, a Wednesday report from a human rights group revealed.

The report, released by The Transnational Justice Working Group in Seoul, gathered information from more than 300 North Korean refugees who witnessed the regime's firing squad executing criminals in public areas to attract large crowds and instill fear in its citizens.

"In ordinary areas outside the prison system, our interviewees stated that public executions take place near river banks, in river beds, near bridges, in public sports stadiums, in the local marketplace, on school grounds in the fringes of the city, or on mountainsides," the report stated.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/07/19/...eport-says.html

Let's go running to their aid by killing them with our love bombs before Lil Kim get's them first.