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Has it not?


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Originally Posted By: Haus
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And after three pages of BS none of the Trumpians will address that it's the GOP leading the investigations of Trump. That it's the GOP leading the charge. Not the Dems and not the media.

Oh the hateful GOP and their witch hunts! lmao

Have any of the investigations turned up any wrongdoing on the part of Trump?


We have no way of knowing since the results won't be revealed until the investigations are completed. But then you know that.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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And after three pages of BS none of the Trumpians will address that it's the GOP leading the investigations of Trump. That it's the GOP leading the charge. Not the Dems and not the media.

Oh the hateful GOP and their witch hunts! lmao

Have any of the investigations turned up any wrongdoing on the part of Trump?


We have no way of knowing since the results won't be revealed until the investigations are completed. But then you know that.


But having no way of knowing has not stopped you and your liberal pals from shouting accusations and calling our President every name that won't be censored!
Hypocrite much?
Lynch Mob much?
Un American much?
SHAME!

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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And after three pages of BS none of the Trumpians will address that it's the GOP leading the investigations of Trump. That it's the GOP leading the charge. Not the Dems and not the media.

Oh the hateful GOP and their witch hunts! lmao

Have any of the investigations turned up any wrongdoing on the part of Trump?


We have no way of knowing since the results won't be revealed until the investigations are completed. But then you know that.

I had a suspicion of that, but things change, information gets leaked, etc.

Don't you find it funny that we've been hearing about this nonsense since July 2016, and there is still not a single piece of publicly available evidence that Trump did anything wrong?

Do you know how many times that a handful of posters on here have insisted that the story was about to break any day, something huge was going to drop, and I would say no it's not lol.

What they don't realize is that when they read these things on their far-left websites where some "source" has "inside information" that something huge is about to drop, 99% of the time it's just somebody making it up. The same thing happens on the right as well.

Anyway, maybe we'll find out more by July 2018.

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You have no room to talk after what you and you people have said shot Obama, including trump disgusting nonsense


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You have no room to talk after what you and you people have said shot Obama, including trump disgusting nonsense


Obama was a dink and now he follows Trump around the world, like a stalker, meeting with the leaders Trump just met with, like the Dink he is.

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In the modern world we call that cleaning up after someone's mess.

Obama isn't president, and yet he still has to do presidential duties since our current one refuses to.

I wish he was still president. Trump is an embarrassment to this great nation that I fought for.


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And that is why people with your attitude are losing today.

A third term for Obama is unconstitutional but you would have it.

Following Trump around confusing the message and undermining American Policy while insulting our duly elected President, like your attitude about a third term, is completely against our Western Culture and Civilization!

SHAME!

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look how ridiculous you sound right now.

thanks captain obvious for pointing out that a third term is unconstitutional. everybody knows that.

that doesn't change the fact that i still wish obama was president. meaning someone like him. ya know, an actual LEADER like all of the presidents before him (maybe not nixon). Trump isn't a leader. he's a tool for the russians, and a self serving hack who's only worried about his own brand over actually serving the american people.

you're right, that's a damn SHAME. and you and the rest of the people who voted for him sold out our country.


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Enemy Nations face off...

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
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Probably schizo.


Nah, my Dad is manic depressive.

I hope you feel good about putting down others with legit mental conditions.

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See, this is the hypocrisy. Y'all complain about "liberals being awful" and then stuff like this gets tossed around.

No, this wasn't meant or taken as an offense against me about well spoken. People use the phrase to demean others, and usually it's through a lens of race or social class. The word should get stricken out of the vocabulary of all.



You really are paranoid if you think random people talking about mental illness is somehow related to your dad, who nobody ever heard of before.


And yes, making up imaginary codewords, and then flipping out when people randomly say them in every day conversation, and thinking it is all about you is a definite sign of paranoid schizophreniza.

Go look up "Ideas of Reference" for medical definition of it.

But that's ok. Youre well spoken for your young naive age.


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Vers get banned for a couple of weeks for going ham on YTown over disabilities.

Eve stays around while making baseless claims about my mental state.

All the while she demeans those who legitimately suffer from such a condition with baseless accusations.

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Im not demeaning anybody. People are free to talk about mental illness. It should not be swept under the rug like it isnt a problem in society.

Ideas of Reference is a legit medical problem, and if the shoe fits, then you should go read about it and educate yourself.

Instead of crying. "Eve talked about mental illness. Waaaaaaaah Baaannnnn her"


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You seem to think that since the investigation has been ongoing for a long time that there isn't anything there.

Did it ever cross your mind that since there's so much there, they have no choice but to continue the investigation?

I'm not saying that's so, but it seems to me if they had found nothing there, this thing would have been wrapped up by now. Once again, it's the GOP that heads these investigations. Not the Dems or the media. Are you suggesting that the GOP wouldn't love to end all of this if nothing is there?


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Originally Posted By: Haus
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Might as well turn Paulus Politics into a safe space like r/The_Donald with all this complaining about criticism.

I'm genuinely curious about how many conservatives on here even know about r/The_Donald. I'm guessing not many.


Never heard of it ... educate me please ..

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
You seem to think that since the investigation has been ongoing for a long time that there isn't anything there.

Did it ever cross your mind that since there's so much there, they have no choice but to continue the investigation?

I'm not saying that's so, but it seems to me if they had found nothing there, this thing would have been wrapped up by now. Once again, it's the GOP that heads these investigations. Not the Dems or the media. Are you suggesting that the GOP wouldn't love to end all of this if nothing is there?

Of course that crossed my mind. I think it is unlikely, keeping in mind that while the GOP may head these investigations, there are prominent Democrats involved as well (e.g. Dianne Feinstein, Mark Warner, Elijah Cummings, Adam Schiff).

I would think that if there was any great evidence, we would have heard about it by now. On the contrary, here is Dianne Feinstein-- who has seen the classified evidence at the CIA-- admitting on the record that there is no evidence of collusion:



That was from a few months ago. It's possible that something has surfaced in the meantime, but let's think about this. The accusations started last summer, the election was November 2016, and Trump was sworn in January 2017. It's now July 2017. Where would the new evidence of collusion come from in the last few months? Did intelligence just miss it the first dozen times around? I'm just wondering exactly where the evidence would come from, and in what form. I don't think it exists.

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Might as well turn Paulus Politics into a safe space like r/The_Donald with all this complaining about criticism.

I'm genuinely curious about how many conservatives on here even know about r/The_Donald. I'm guessing not many.


Never heard of it ... educate me please ..

Ty sir

It is one of the most active subreddits on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

They are rabidly pro-Trump and were probably one of the more influential online hubs during the election season. I don't visit there often-- it is definitely a younger crowd and sometimes the maturity level reflects that, but they do a good job of circulating stories that mainstream media would find inconvenient.

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They got nothing Haus ...

EVERYTHING else has been leaked yet the menZas like Pit think if they had sumptin on the collusion part it wouldn't have been leaked ... just like the menZa runs around thinking because Trump said hes the "king of debt" it means he wants to ad to the national debt ...

MenZas .... rofl ...

The collusion stuff is a JOKE at best ... if oBUMa did his job and wasn't worried about his legacy the mess would be much smaller ...

Its also clear to anyone with a brain that oBUMa's sole job sine 11/9 has been to slow down and sabotage Trump ...

OBUMa is a POS that never figured out he was the president of the US and not the world ... and theres a bunch of his groupies on here that think just like him ... very sad ... very sad ...

If u want to know about Benghazi ... just ask ... ill tell u the TRUTH not the BIASED BS you'll get from the oBUMa groupies ... ask away .. ill tell u what actually happend and what actually went down ....

Ill even start at the beginning ... oBUMa should have fried for this also ... but hes black (mixed race but that dont sell) so no one wants to go there ... its not PC even if it is TRUE!!!




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Originally Posted By: Haus

That was from a few months ago. It's possible that something has surfaced in the meantime, but let's think about this. The accusations started last summer, the election was November 2016, and Trump was sworn in January 2017. It's now July 2017. Where would the new evidence of collusion come from in the last few months? Did intelligence just miss it the first dozen times around? I'm just wondering exactly where the evidence would come from, and in what form. I don't think it exists.


You don't think it exists and I don't know if it exists. So we're not all that far apart. lol

The only real difference is I don't believe the GOP would keep all of these investigations ongoing without any evidence to follow.

I would really like to know why you believe that a GOP led congress, a GOP lead senate, the FBI and a GOP appointed special prosecutor would keep all of these investigations open and ongoing without any reason to? Why would Republicans keep investigating a Republican president just for the hell of it?

If there was actually a logical explanation for that, I would probably be more inclined to agree with you.


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Tell me this Menza. Whay does the GOP senate, congress, FBI and a GOP appointed prosecutor insist on continuing to investigate a president that belongs to their own party?


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: Haus

That was from a few months ago. It's possible that something has surfaced in the meantime, but let's think about this. The accusations started last summer, the election was November 2016, and Trump was sworn in January 2017. It's now July 2017. Where would the new evidence of collusion come from in the last few months? Did intelligence just miss it the first dozen times around? I'm just wondering exactly where the evidence would come from, and in what form. I don't think it exists.


You don't think it exists and I don't know if it exists. So we're not all that far apart. lol

The only real difference is I don't believe the GOP would keep all of these investigations ongoing without any evidence to follow.

I would really like to know why you believe that a GOP led congress, a GOP lead senate, the FBI and a GOP appointed special prosecutor would keep all of these investigations open and ongoing without any reason to? Why would Republicans keep investigating a Republican president just for the hell of it?

If there was actually a logical explanation for that, I would probably be more inclined to agree with you.

They are good questions. Unfortunately, I don't have a great response for them. Let's say there is a lot of material to look through, and the committees are not very efficient at doing it.

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At least we can discuss things without all the rhetoric. While that's unusual around here, it's appreciated.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
ya know, an actual LEADER


Really?

What made Obama an actual leader?

I'm 42. Since I am old enough to have memories, he is easily the worst president I've ever witnessed. By far. There's not a close second.

And this is from someone who told people when he was elected that I thought he would become the best president of my lifetime.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Likewise. I enjoy our discussions.

I'm going to go enjoy the rest of my Sunday though. Good luck here willynilly

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Tell me this Menza. Whay does the GOP senate, congress, FBI and a GOP appointed prosecutor insist on continuing to investigate a president that belongs to their own party?


Perhaps it's because they saw something they felt was worth investigating, and they aren't done investigating, and they want to do a thorough investigation?

Unlike with hillary, when Lynch basically stopped the investigation over e-mails, lack of providing the server, wiping some e-mails off the server after it was finally turned over (was it ever turned over???).

Is it possible, in your mind, that perhaps currently they want to do a thorough job, so that when they reach their conclusion, be it good or bad for trump, they can/will have proof of innocence OR proof of issues that could he could be charged with?

That ever enter your mind?

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Quote:
- I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it. I've already given my opinion.....

- ... Now it is time to move forward in working constructively with Russia!

- Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..


rofl

Putin so owns Trump.

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- I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it. I've already given my opinion.....

- ... Now it is time to move forward in working constructively with Russia!

- Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..


rofl

Putin so owns Trump.


Based on............what, exactly?

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You're just being asinine now. Everybody knows the Russians attacked our democracy with election hacks, EVERYONE. Trum then rolls over for Putin, from his tweets above? Don't be silly, this is serious.

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You're just being asinine now. Everybody knows the Russians attacked our democracy with election hacks, EVERYONE. Trum then rolls over for Putin, from his tweets above? Don't be silly, this is serious.


What were the hacks, and how did they affect the election?

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You're just being asinine now. Everybody knows the Russians attacked our democracy with election hacks, EVERYONE. Trum then rolls over for Putin, from his tweets above? Don't be silly, this is serious.


Everyone knows (or should know) Russia has been meddling in our elections for decades. This is not new. We also meddle in others elections.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2...gly_common.html

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html

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Tell me this Menza. Whay does the GOP senate, congress, FBI and a GOP appointed prosecutor insist on continuing to investigate a president that belongs to their own party?


OK I'll tell U .... any shot u can be original instead of attempting to mock me with my material ... be a creative menZa and come up with your own stuff ..... *LOL* ...

GOP Senate? ... yes the republicans have a majority in the senate ... how did the investigation in the senate come to be? ... how was it born? ... was it a full senate vote? ... if so that means all of 3 repubs had to flip ... but before i answer the question .. i need to UNDERSTAND IT ...

So ... how was the senate investigation born? ... full vote ... a bi-partisan committee ... please tell me exactly how the senate investigation was hatched and then i can tell u ...

Congress? .. SEE ABOVE .. and that must be a committee ...

FBI is alledgedly a bi-partisan group ... and the last we heard from them was Comey confirming that Trump himself was not under investigation on the Russian collusion ....

The FBI has been a joke since the day Comey ruined it when he stepped to the mic and opened his trap about Hillary ... its gone down hill ever since ....

As far as we know there investigating Trump for obstruction not for anything to do with the Russians .. even Comey said so himself .... that not good enough for u? ...

GOP appointed prosecutor? ... by that do u mean the guy the assistant AG picked to lead the investigation when it was clear the right thing to do was recuse himself .. is that the special prosecutor your talking about? .... if so, here's your answer menZa ...

The AG should be investigating it ... thats there JOB ..... and so the AG sessions decided to follow the law and recuse himself from anything russia ... then the assistant Ag had to recuse himself when the leaks kept coming ... so he appointed a special prosecutor ....

whats your point menZa? .... anyone with a brain knows that most of the repubs hate trump and could care less about us as long as trump goes down it don't matter .... so whats your point menZa that theres so much evidence that even the repubs want it investigated .... well duh ... they all hate him too ...

And dude ... there is NO EVIDENCE so far .. NONE ... even the fake news networks are admitting it ... its common knowledge .... it just don't fit your agenda ....

Trump isn't the POS u think he is and thats a hard fact for u to swallow ...




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Trump's son met Russian lawyer after promise of information on Clinton: NY Times

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-son-met-russian-lawyer-promise-information-clinton-211008062.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. agreed to meet with a Kremlin-linked lawyer during the 2016 campaign after being promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton, the New York Times reported on Sunday, citing three advisers to the White House.

Trump's then-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, also attended the meeting, the Times reported.

The Times quoted a statement from Donald Trump Jr. in which he acknowledged meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.

"After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton," the Times quoted Donald Trump Jr. as saying. Clinton was the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee.

"Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information."

Allegations of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia have cast a shadow over Donald Trump's first five months in office, distracting from attempts by his fellow Republicans in Congress to overhaul the U.S. healthcare and tax systems.

The Kremlin has denied U.S. intelligence agencies' conclusion that Moscow tried to tilt the election in Trump's favor, using such means as hacking into the emails of senior Democrats. Trump has repeatedly denied any collusion.

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y'all better hope that's not true.


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Why?

It sounds to me like the russians were supposedly financing Hillary and the DNC. Wouldn't that be collusion on hillary and the DNC's part?

Ya'll better hope all this investigation doesn't come back on the d's.

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Well there's Yahoo and then there's FOX...

Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner respond to meeting with Russian lawyer

President Donald Trump’s eldest son, son-in-law, and then-campaign chairman met with a Russian lawyer shortly after Trump won the Republican nomination, in what appears to be the earliest known private meeting between key aides to the president and a Russian.

Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner’s attorney confirmed the June 2016 meeting of the men and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower. Then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort also attended, according to the statement from Donald Trump Jr.

“It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at that time and there was no follow-up,” said Donald Trump Jr. in a statement released to Fox News. “I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.”

Trump Jr. does not serve in the administration and is not required to disclose his foreign contacts.

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Why would I hope that Jr tried to connect with the Russians?

You understand that's treason, right?


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Why would I hope that Jr tried to connect with the Russians?

You understand that's treason, right?



No, he and I are educated enough to know that Trump Jr. does not serve in the administration and is not required to disclose his foreign contacts.

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I'm not quite sure I understand your first sentence.

Your second sentence......is jr. involved in the administration?

Regardless, the info you are forgetting, or ignoring, is that supposedly some russians were funding hillary and the DNC.

Isn't that illegal? If it happened?

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You don't understand a lot of things.

And nothing in my post said anything about the Russians funding Hillary.

So I did a google search of whatever the hell you were trying to imply.

Sure enough, didn't find anything like that, cept this:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...bout-hillary-c/

If you're getting your facts from trumps tweets then that's pretty hilarious and sad.

So yea I ignored it, cause sure enough, whatever you say in this topic tends to be a load of crap.

But you're the king of "what about Hillary" around here, master of deflection. Not surprising.


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You don't understand a lot of things.

And nothing in my post said anything about the Russians funding Hillary.

So I did a google search of whatever the hell you were trying to imply.

Sure enough, didn't find anything like that, cept this:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...bout-hillary-c/

If you're getting your facts from trumps tweets then that's pretty hilarious and sad.

So yea I ignored it, cause sure enough, whatever you say in this topic tends to be a load of crap.

But you're the king of "what about Hillary" around here, master of deflection. Not surprising.


So, you don't even read the articles you post?

Here's a quote from the article you posted:
Quote:
"After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton," the Times quoted Donald Trump Jr. as saying. Clinton was the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee.


So, while you are claiming, in this case, collusion on the part of trump, it was actually about hillary.


So, yeah, despite you saying "nothing in my post said anything about the russians funding hillary", it's right in your post.

Man, you sure don't understand a lot of things, do you? Even the stuff you post.

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