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Im not paying taxes so these soldiers can go in the bathroom and fap.

No thanks.

How many times do I have to say the same damn thing.

If the only beef is the cost of surgeries, it's whatever.

But an outright ban is absolutely ridiculous, unpatriotic, and flat out wrong.

and then you guys are literally proving my point: y'all will look the other way with one medication/surgery and then blast the other?

look at 40, acting like he cares about soldiers when it comes to sexual dysfunction, but then makes sure to treat trans people who ARE soldiers as well as if they're not, and completely supports a ban on them.

y'all don't even realize how ridiclous these arguments are. i mean hell, we shouldn't pay for women's health in the military because they're pregnant, because they didn't have to get pregnant.

we shouldn't pay for soldiers to get lasik surgery because nobody told them to be hard of seeing before they joined the army.

we shouldn't pay for soldiers to see mental health specialist because they should've known the risk of PTSD due to deploying before signing up for the military.

and i could go on and on and on.

which is why i keep my opinion and don't bother with y'alls. some of y'all are gonna be salty no matter what the hell is going on.

some of y'all didn't give two craps about the military when it comes to signing up and serving, but now all of a sudden give a damn what's going on just because of some people you don't personally like. pathetic.

if you didn't care about serving, why open your mouth about the people who are willing to? they are certainly showing more honor in the situation than any of you.

When have you EVER "keep my opinion and don't bother with yalls"

Whatever youre smoking is making you delusional.

that means i haven't changed my stance since none of you are making any points.

Thanks for translating goatspeak for me.

thank your founding fathers for not setting an official language. Murica!!

haha

Absolutely. I feel pretty much the same. I don't care about the sexual preference or gender identity of anybody other than myself and my wife... I also think our soldiers should have the best medical care we can provide, but I wouldn't want to pay for facelifts or any other purely cosmetic surgery that does not affect the soldier's ability to perform their job.

I'm not sure which side of that argument this surgery falls on, but it doesn't seem vital to me. That said, it's a slippery slope in many ways.

Coast Guard commandant signals he will resist Trump's military transgender ban

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/...gender-ban.html

I know that I can't take no more,
it ain't no lie.
I want to see you out that door,
Baby Bye Bye Bye.

The military generals pushed back.

Cause what Trump proposed is stupid.

Trump will promote him to Marshal, of Statego.

i dunno what statego is.

but Trump will hopefully end up doing nothing with regards to this topic.

actually, for the good of the country, i hope he does nothing until 2020 when he can leave.

I think he meant stratego. Stratego. A board game.

I respect all veterans.

I respect those that don't talk about their service unless asked, even more.

Why? They went, they did their job, and they don't expect anything extra.

I know 4 people, just here in Archbold, that like to brag about being "disabled, military", and living off the gov't.

1 gal fell off the back of a pickup. Hurt her back. Yup, even though she was drunk, she's still collecting.

Another lady, navy, "hurt" her back in the service. She's on full disability.

Ain't a thing in the world wrong with either of them.

Another guy, he's proud as hell at his military disability. He'll talk to you like he was under fire and ran out and saved some people. Truth is, he never set foot in a combat zone. Or over seas.


Respect? Pete (Army, now Army reserves) - been to Iraq and Afghanistan, numerous times. He doesn't talk about it.

Frank - Vietnam. My son actually interviewed him for a h.s. project. He didn't say anything about combat.

Chuck - Vietnam vet. Played paintball with him. He did, one time, make the comment "in Vietnam, there were no heroes. When you heard the crack of an AK, you hit the ground."

While I respect all vets, those that don't brag about their service get a bit more respect from me.

Most I heard from my grandfather about WWII was-'I was there'. Didn't know a thing about what he did or what he was awarded until the night before we buried him.

My Uncle Marty was a Marine in WWII fighting Japan.

He said they grouped him with 100 men and loaded them into landing craft.
They hit the beach.
10 survived.

Back on the ship, sailing to the next island, they grouped him with 100 men.
They hit the beach.
10 survived.

He did this 5 times.

How can anyone not respect something like that?

I have no problem with any transsexual serving if they have already transitioned. What I have a problem with is transsexuals that are transitioning for the simple fact that they cannot preform their duties in most billets. I have the same concerns with women getting pregnant while serving.

yea that's great and all but i really don't care about who brags and who doesn't. it's no different than people bragging about going hunting and all the guns someone owns. people like what they like and rep what they want to rep.

it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, which is trump wanting to ban transgendered personnel from the military.

i'm not with that, and never be with that.

It's a bit odd that you are so "for" trans, yet you called Haus one and intended it as an insult in another thread.

What's up w/you, little bro?

You confused?

so making a joke means i don't support trans in the army?

that's like saying because crack a joke about germans that i must not support germans.

you're the only one confused. and i'm not your lil bro.

I think you might be conflicted, little bro. Btw...how is Rocket?

Oh, it's 100% different.

When one "brags" about their service, the demean themselves really.

When people that served, and got shot at, decide to not talk about it in order to make them look good, I respect that.

When vets can get full disability, despite having the ability to work full time, man, I wonder what's up?

When I see a family of veterans that have figured out how to get full disability from the military, yet they still work full time, I wonder.

definitely not conflicted. just annoyed with the bigots. Rocket is cool, living his life. How's Diam? i know you two enjoy stroking each other ego's.

LOL............I don't think you've been following what's up in the Pure Football forum.

again, what does it matter how you choose to view the way veterans carry themselves?

what does it matter HOW they carry themselves?

i respect my fellow vets. and it's important vets talk about deployments and military life that way people can understand the cost of war and other factors.

my homeboys and i talk about it all the time: how will things ever turn for the better if combat vets don't talk about combat? how can we learn from our past if we never discuss the past?

hell, how would we get some of these awesome war movies if everybody keeps their mouths shut?

so again, this is a free country and you can view vets however you choose. and as a free country i can express my opinion and talk about combat however i choose. so your respect, or lack of, means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

remember that.

as far as the disability comments, i've explained to you in detail already how it works.

so if someone got the 100% rating, it's because the VA decided they needed the rating. if they are T&P (total & permanent), and not 100% based off of unemployability, then they can work whenever and however they please.

So i'm going to use the same line you use with taxes: don't be mad at the people who use it to their advantage, be mad at the system.

it's funny how you will defend these corporations and billionaires for getting over on the tax code legally, but then have a problem with vets who get 100% legally and still are allowed to work.

yea, i don't respect you. oh well. you seem to adore the people screwing up this country, and blast the people that went served.

please don't talk about respect when you don't deserve any coming your way. but see? in the big picture, the respect between us two doesn't matter.

when you post in PF, there tends to not be anything much to follow.

I wasn't talking about you. Deal with it.

What gets me is the vets that get disability, when in fact, they have no disability.

who said you was? didn't you specifically say you were talking about some 4 dudes where you stay at? keep up with your own posting dude.

again, how do you know they don't have a disability? do you know specifically what they claimed? or are you just speculating?

Yeah........you know way more about football than I do.

probably.

You all need to grow up, this is exactly what those in office on the left, the right and their media outlets want.