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Like he handles women. I guess that means he is going to snatch up their leader

lol omg bro

I don't care if a guy served in uniform scrubbing toilets for 4 years, he deserves your respect because somebody had to do it to keep the military rolling! I see you have not only never put on the uniform of any branch, but you dare to belittle somebody else's service! Shame.

He learned that from Trump's comments about McCain.

No worries Clem. I learned a long time ago there will always be those who will spit on our returning soldiers and sailors no matter what they did in their service to this country. And they dare call themselves patriotic and true American's.

And oh BTW lifer civilian 40.... I was a Survival Equipment Specialist E5. I prepared survival equipment and was deployed on Carriers and Amphibious landing ships during the Vietnam era. Can't remember how many pilots came up to me and other PR's to say thanks for saving our lives. The chute was amazing to see. It opened so fast I didn't think it could open so fast. Thanks for packing extra rations and ammo in our kits. Thanks for having our 45's clean and oiled and ready to go. I'm proud to be their friends forever now.

So to you lifer civilian 40, how many American lives have you helped to save Mmmm?

All those who served do have my respect.

Perfect insults all the time so I will fling it his way from time to time.

I ran it by my Veteran friends about Vets using their service to insult those who never served as if they knew nothing and I can not post here what they had to say about it.

Anyhow, I do thank Perfect for his sauces.

You have friends?

FYI that's an insult.

Fair and Balanced.

Bill O'Reilly, is that you?

Ask him about the Falkland War in 1982.

40, I don't begrudge you the swipe at Perfect because in a way we have a brotherhood here too; but his service is off limits as far as I'm concerned. And as for your buddies, they know one service member can give crap to another, but they also show the respect the service deserves.

That's all I have to say about that.

Back on topic again...

No one seems to have taken notice that Trump is removing his Civilian Cabinet and replacing them with Generals.

Is this due to NK and what is to come? Perhaps Venezuela?

or - and this is credit to trump - he finally realized that he can't have people who don't know what they're doing running his administration just based off of loyalty.

he needs people with actual experience to operate this administration as smoothly as possible.

better late than never, i suppose.

North Korea's night lights show improving economy despite sanctions

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld kept a satellite picture of the Korean peninsula in his office that showed South Korea at night lit by millions of lights--and North Korea dark except for a small dot: Pyongyang.

At a 2006 Pentagon briefing he was asked if there could be effective diplomacy with the North Korean regime without a strong military deterrent “in their faces.”

“Probably yes,” he said, but only time would tell. The Bush Administration, like the Obama Administration that followed, was committed to diplomacy while unwilling to speculate about the use of force when it came to dealing with the hermit kingdom.

Years later, there are new signs that diplomacy and sanctions are not only failing to deter Pyongyang from building up its nuclear arsenal, but there is growing evidence the country’s economy is actually improving.

A new report from South Korea’s government-run Korea Development Institute includes satellite imagery showing that North Korea’s nighttime lighting conditions improved from 2002 to 2012.

The images also show there was more light seen in areas surrounding the North Korea capital than in 2002.

"The change in the luminous intensity of North Korea shows that the North Korean economy made a turnaround in mid-2000," the report said.

The institute regards such satellite images as one of the best tools “to demonstrate a region’s urbanization, population density and economic activity,” South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency reported.

As it happens, 2016 was a banner year for the North Korean economy, according to the Bank of Korea in Seoul. The North’s economy grew 3.9 percent last year, according to bank researchers. That was the fastest pace in 17 years.

Exports to China of coal and other minerals fueled the faster rate of growth. But those exports have reportedly taken a hit this year with Beijing apparently making good on a promise to President Trump to reduce those exports amid the North Korean nuclear crisis.

But Chinese goods are still making their way into North Korea, according to analysts. Despite indicating it would help enforce international sanctions on its neighbor, China’s exports grew nearly 20 percent in the first half of this year, according to a report by the Korea International Trade Association (KITA).

Even though jet fuel was one of five items banned by the United Nations, Beijing’s export of jet fuel to Pyongyang increased 18.3 percent in the first half of 2017.

“China’s exports to North Korea were augmented in spite of the sanctions,” said the KITA report, “Shipments of made-in-China mobile phones spiked 92.8 percent one year to total $54 million in the first six months and textile exports also expanded at a sizable rate.”

The Korea Information Society Development Institute reported last month there were 3.24 million mobile phone users in North Korea in 2015, the latest data available, up from 69,261 in 2009, when the North first allowed ordinary citizens to use mobile phones.

It’s not just China that may be lending a helping hand.

Pacific Aerospace CEO Damian Camp said at the time the 10-seater plane was sold to a Chinese company and he was as mystified as anyone as to how it ended up in North Korea.

But newly released emails from the United Nations Security Council investigation include an email chain suggesting that Pacific Aerospace knew the plane was in North Korea, and that the firm was ready to cooperate with the Chinese for training and parts.

One email from Pacific Aerospace to its Chinese counterpart reads “[Name redacted] departs for China tomorrow and will co-ordinate with you to deliver the training in how to replace the flat motor.”

The supply of aircraft, related parts or training to North Korea is a violation of UN Security Council Resolution 1718. The New Zealand customs department is also investigating whether rules were broken.

Pacific Aerospace did not respond immediately to a request for comment from Fox News.

Complicating efforts to exert economic pressure on North Korean leader Kim Jong Un are recent economic reforms his regime has implemented.

Some North Korean farmers are now allowed to a keep a percentage of what they produce rather than give it all over to inefficient state-run enterprises for redistribution. Experts believe the policy change could mitigate the effects of North Korea’s frequent drought-induced food crises, which have forced Pyongyang to turn to the international community for help in the past.

The number of government-approved markets in North Korea has doubled to 440 since 2010. According to a study by the Korea Institute for National Unification in Seoul, these markets employ about 1 million people as salesmen or managers, out of a population of 25 million.

The former head of South Korea’s intelligence service told lawmakers earlier this year that about 40 percent of North Korea’s population now works in some form of private enterprise. At the same time, wages have apparently risen, along with living standards.

More cars are said to be clogging Pyongyang streets, and diplomats report a denser skyline from just a few years ago. The elites are reportedly shopping on Amazon.com and enjoying a new ski resort and luxury hotel near the capital.

“North Korea has gone from a very tightly controlled state socialist economy to basically a marketizing economy,” Sokeel Park of Liberty in North Korea told the Financial Times last month.

With the North’s economy showing signs of resilient growth helped along by persistent Chinese trade, President Trump tweeted his frustration over the weekend after the latest North Korean missile test.

"I am very disappointed in China," Trump wrote, "...they do NOTHING for us with North Korea, just talk. We will no longer allow this to continue. China could easily solve this problem!"

That tweet came as US Air Force B-1B bombers flew over the peninsula, in the latest Trump Administration effort to show that the sanctions are indeed backed up by a potential military deterrent.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/07/31/...-sanctions.html

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-p...ory?id=48973337

Na na na na ... We can pee farther then you can pee.

Trump feeling the heat at home? Well, what better way to change the direction of the media by declaring war.

This could get very ugly, very quick. Trump goes and bombs them, they then bomb Seoul in return and a full scale war on the peninsula breaks out. China could be involved, maybe Russia....this will be a seriously big mess with many casualties on both sides.

Not to mention that thanks to your kind our Leader is under constant attack and may be distracted.

Perhaps he needs to learn how to stay away from potential scandals, stop firing the people he hires, learn to govern and the criticism will cease? Simple as that.

But, anybody who talks about women the way he did on that Access Hollywood tape will never have my respect nor my support. So, probably not.

Tell it to the NK Nuke you're about to eat!

I ask...how do you know that all this NK nukes stuff is true? Could all be "fake News" disguised to distract away from problems and turmoils at home and in the WH. Afterall, weren't we told Iraq had weapons of mass destruction only to learn later that they didn't.

Have you ever seen the film "Wag The Dog"? If not, you should.

North Korea threatens US with more 'unexpected gift packages' after missile test

With national pride flying as high as one of its recent intercontinental ballistic missile tests, North Korea threatened the United States -- again -- on Thursday, warning with typical hyperbolic abandon that the rogue regime would soon send "unexpected 'gift packages," claiming America is "on the knife's edge of life and death" and slamming the Trump administration.

Rodong Sinmun, the newspaper of North Korea's ruling party, issued the threat in a column titled "Heed the Warning of Juche Korea" in which the authors asserted the Trump administration is being forced to "wave a white flag" amid tensions with Pyongyang.

That's all well and good...but have you read anything from the Rodong Sinmum or KCNA before? It's not exactly truth and gospel.

Rodong yes. KCNA no.

I prefer Rimjingang. Much less glorifying of Glorious Leader crap.

Lindsey Graham on the Today Show lays out what Trump will do with North Korea...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/sen-lindsey-graham-trump-says-war-north-korea-option-n788396

Kim Jong Un has been saying these type of things for years. As did Iran's Ahmadinejad.

I'm not discounting they are a potential threat but, at the same time it seems strangely odd and coincidental that here we are full throttle ramping up macho talks of going to war (per Lindsey Graham) at a time when there is A LOT of political heat, turmoil and investigation into our own Presidency.

North Korea could soon develop a hydrogen bomb, more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan

As if the news out of North Korea wasn’t bad enough, things might get a lot worse within the next 18 months. We should not be surprised if the Communist dictatorship develops a hydrogen bomb – the ultimate atomic weapon – with the potential to kill millions of people.

If U.S. missile defenses failed to stop a North Korean H-bomb from landing in our nation’s capital it could kill roughly 500,000 people and injure another 900,000. If an H-bomb hit New York City, the death toll could reach over 1.7 million.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/0...d-on-japan.html

I gotta say, I've been totally perplexed as to how this could be resolved positively. It's thorny as hell, with no clear-cut answers as far as I can see.

I haven't kept up with this thread, so if you've already addressed my concerns, let me know. I'll go back and read you. If not... how do you see our way through this?

Inquirin' minds wanna know

I think there are two sure assumptions:

1) Under NO circumstance will Kim Jong un stop developing nuclear weapons, and
2) Kim Jong un will always keep himself in a position where to kill him will mean killing a whole lot of innocent North Korean lives.

One word answer... Trump.

No one else has handled it since it began, decades ago, but I do believe he will end the threat.

So far his strategy has been as follows...
1- Get China to pressure NK to give up their Nukes.
2- Sanctions against NK. Cutting off the flow of money to them.
3- Threat of Nuclear arming Japan and South Korea.
4- Offering to have talks with NK and assuring Kim we are not looking to take him out (regime change) but the Nukes and ICBM's have to go.
5- Military action

As each of those first 4 strategies fail, we move closer to war.
NK has made the error of forcing our President to choose between regional stability and the safety of the Homeland.

I know which choice Trump will make.

I wish him luck in this endeavor. Sincerely.

We could try to ride him out and hope he dies of natural causes.. but then Kim Jong Un will just be replaced with Kim Jong Deux.

groooooan-

It's not like China really wants to see a unified Korea right at its borer. I don't think it'll matter who is there or not.

N. Korea and China are allies. Anyone thinking China is going to play a big role in this are only fooling themselves. Unless it comes to war.

UN slaps new sanctions on North Korea following missile tests

The United Nations Security Council Saturday unanimously approved new sanctions against North Korea in the wake of the communist nation's first successful tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of reaching the United States.

The sanctions resolution bans North Korean exports of coal, iron, iron ore, lead, lead ore and seafood — resources that are worth over $1 billion to the regime of Kim Jong Un. North Korea exported an estimated $3 billion worth of goods last year.

U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley praised the new sanctions, telling council members after the vote that it is "the single largest economic package ever leveled against the North Korean regime."

Countries are also banned from giving any additional permits to North Korean laborers -- another source of money for Pyongyang. And it prohibits all new joint ventures with North Korean companies and bans new foreign investment in existing ones.
The resolution was drafted by the U.S. and negotiated with North Korea's neighbor and ally China. It is aimed at increasing economic pressure on Pyongyang to return to negotiations on its nuclear and missile programs.

"The North Korean threat ... is rapidly growing more dangerous,'' said Haley, who vowed that America "will continue to take prudent defensive measures to protect ourselves and our allies."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/05/...sile-tests.html

Good.

I am just afaid that when a animal is backed in to a corner, they have nothing to lose.


No doubt we will win. At what cost is the question?

amen.

I just don't see any clean way to the other side of this.

Or like riding a wild horse, it eventually breaks and becomes domesticated.

That's the hope, but as long as the horse keeps getting wilder, sooner or later you have to shoot it before it hurts somebody..


To Clems point, sometimes there is no clean, easy way out. I wish it wasn't so. Not to place blame at the feet of anybody else, had we done something about this 5-10-15-20 years ago, it would have been far easier.....no??


No doubt you try to use reason, but when reason doesn't work, what do you do??

There are no good answers at this point.

20 years ago he was 5 or so .. *L* ..

I agree ... Bush or oBUMa should have cleaned this up ...

If we get him .. I'm not sure if he has any relatives to take over ... he's killed a bunch of them .. *L* ..

Anyhow ... here's a pretty scary article ....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/...-overstate.html

McMaster: Threat of North Korean nuclear weapon strike 'impossible to overstate'

National security adviser H.R. McMaster said Saturday the threat of North Korea launching a nuclear weapon at the U.S. or another rival nation is “impossible to overstate” and repeated that a preemptive military strike remains an option.

“It’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with a rogue, brutal regime,” McMaster told Hugh Hewitt on the conservative commentator’s MSNBC TV show.

“Are we preparing a plan for a preventive war? … The president has been very clear that he’s not going to tolerate North Korea being able to threaten the U.S. … So of course we have to provide all options to do that, and that includes a military option.”

Still, he said the United States would like to resolve the situation “short of what would be a very costly war."

The retired Army general said President Trump has been "deeply briefed" on the strategy on North Korea.

Tensions have mounted with Pyongyang's two recent successful tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles. And Trump has sought help from China and South Korea toward de-escalating the situation.

In the interview, McMaster spoke about several problem spots around the world, including Iran and Venezuela, where residents fighting against an oppressive regime have also raised concerns about U.S. military intervention.

The U.N. Security Council was expected to vote on a new sanctions resolution that would increase economic pressure on North Korea to return to negotiations on its missile program.

McMaster said “democracy is now over in Venezuela” but significantly downplayed the potential of a military operation from neighboring countries or the United States.

“I don’t see an outside military intervention,” he said

McMaster also reiterated that Trump doesn’t like the so-called Iran nuclear deal, brokered by the former Obama administration and that eases billion in economic sanctions on the rogue nation.

The deal eases the sanctions in exchange for Iran scaling back its pursuit of a nuclear weapon.

McMaster said Trump thinks Iran has already violated the spirit of the agreement, pointing to the country’s support of the Assad regime in Syria. However, he declined to say whether the U.S. will exit the agreement after an upcoming 90-day review.