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I wonder if the coaches turned it off to test how he'd react.

I am sure they did lol.

Thanks for the reply ..

I agree on throwing the ball away ... no clue on the feet thing .. like u said ... we'll see if that holds up .. *L* ...

I've watched DK make those throws and stand in there for the last 2 years ... he can do things very few can ...

Its way early .. way early ... long ass way to go ...

I also saw almost every one of his negatives from the last two years, especially last year rear there ugly head .. if he ever fixes those things ... LOOK OUT ...

Browns Sticking To Their Plan, Won’t Rush DeShone Kizer To Start



August 18, 2017 3:20 PM By Daryl Ruiter | 92.3 The Fan


BEREA (92.3 The Fan) – Joe Thomas raised a few eyebrows this week when he said that rookie quarterback DeShone Kizer isn’t ready to start for the Browns.

At least outside of 76 Lou Groza Boulevard.

But Head coach Hue Jackson has a plan for Kizer. He’s had it from the moment they sent in the card to pick him 52nd overall in the draft and Jackson refuses to deviate from it regardless of internal or external pressure to do so.

“It is the raising of a quarterback,” Jackson said. “I don’t think you do things too soon. I think he has to earn the right if he can, and if he can’t, that’s OK. We are just going to keep pushing him and putting him in the right environment to keep getting him where he needs to be.”

After Kizer’s preseason debut that saw him complete passes of 52 and 45 yards and account for 2 touchdown drives in 5 offensive series in the second half, the bandwagon to have him start Sept. 10 filled up quickly. Phone calls to talk shows, tweets and other social media posts praising Kizer and begging for him to start have been flowing since last Thursday.

“He is talented – we all know that – it is how fast can he grasp all of this and handle it and be able to perform at a high level,” Jackson said.

After 18-plus years of a quarterback merry-go-round, fans understandably are thirsting for a franchise quarterback as much as they are for more than 5 wins in a season.

Jackson knows it but hes not going to put the cart before the horse and throw Kizer to the wolves like has happened to so many young quarterbacks before.


“DeShone has done a good job of just walking in here, being very humble and just working through this process with myself and [quarterbacks] coach [David] Lee and the other quarterbacks,” Jackson said. “He has done a good job. He has to keep growing.”

Kizer will be tested again Monday night against the New York Giants – this time as Jackson’s No. 2 quarterback.

Jackson wants to get him on the field against better competition in the first half, meaning that Brock Osweiler, who will start, may not play 4 series like he did against the Saints so that Kizer can get as many reps in the first half as possible, giving Jackson a better barometer of where the rookie is.

“The biggest thing I took from that game was when I’m out there, I’m comfortable and I’m ripping it, I am very confident,” Kizer said. “When I first stepped in there and things are flying from all different angles, that confidence kind of takes a step back. I need to figure out how to get myself into a position that from the first snap that I step out there and the first rep that I take that I can be as comfortable and as confident as I possibly can be.

“That is only going to come from reps and going out there and getting the experience that some of these other guys already have.”

Some rookies might be offended by a teammate saying they aren’t ready to play, but not Kizer who is willing to take Thomas’ word for it. After all Thomas has already blocked for 18 different starting QBs and he will make it 19 when the season opens against the Steelers.

“He has been in the NFL since I have been in seventh grade so whatever he says is probably pretty accurate,” Kizer said. “Obviously, it is still the same message that I continue to push. The more time you have, the more comfortable you become, the more confident you are throwing the ball, and he is just seconding that statement.”

Kizer isn’t content with his performance against New Orleans – not by a long shot – but he’s also not in a hurry to put himself in harms way by being unprepared for what’s to come on Sundays at 1 p.m.

“The more time I have, the better I will become,” Kizer said. “This, once again, is a process. I’m trying to just dive in, trust in it and understand that the coaches and the front office have a plan.”

And they’re going to stick to it.

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I like that Hue praises, but then always says he needs to get better, he's not ready, etc. Keep saying that for 18 months

j/c:

I'm already growing tired of the all the talk about Kizer.

Posted on a thread called umm Kizer

what happen to if you can get a third round drat pick for him a no brainer?

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Cosell praising Kizer

if Brock stinks it up against the Giants, and DK looks good? Then what?
Interesting question, isn't it?

And if Brock plays well and Kizer stinks, there will be a lot of excuses made.

DA vs BQ part II.

1. No one cares.

2. In the future, I'd suggest not coming into a thread titled DeShone Kizer if you don't want to read about him. Makes sense, right?

Not from me. I just want somebody to seize the job and play well, I don't care who it is.

If you don't care, keep your big mouth shut. Makes sense, right?

Not caring doesn't mean I shouldn't tell you no one cares. Sometimes people need reminding.

And why are you back in here?.....people are talking about Kizer.

Brock had a 10-6 season while playing for the browns?

It's not a similar situation.

My thought as well. I don't think the situations are close.

J/c ...

I don't think it really matters who starts game 1 ... DK's going to be in sooner than later ....

And that stinks ... I think BO is a well below average NFL starter but I'd rather run him out there all year than play DK this year ... if he gets hurt ... as bad as CK is for this year and for DK's development ... I'd run him out there ... then Hogan if he gets hurt and BO's still down ...

But i don't see a shot in hell that my scenario plays out ... won't be the first, won't be the last ... *L* ...

I think the best thing BO has going for him to start our are first two opponents ... I think Hue may "hold DK" back so he doesn't have to throw him to the wolves in his first two starts ...

That's because neither one of you were thinking. I was talking about the fan and media perspective.

well i'm a fan and it still isn't the same.

Okay, great.

awesome.

I know what you were talking about. And I think there will be some of that, but I don't think it will be to the extent we saw the DA/BQ thing go down.

I actually think if Osweiler plays well most of the fans and media will advocate postponing inserting Kizer in as the starter - Mary Kay excluded, of course.

I hope you are right.

I value and I trust in JT's opinion. I only start Kizer in a panic start. Time for the rest to come together down the road. Brock should start now, and Hue shouldn't be too cute with this starter thing for the media. It is motivational to a point as I see it: "they are battling, lots to see, much to know" and other noise. But this train is going to end up in Kizerland. Let's not get cute and foster a controversy. Play them, praise them, support them. This mystery tease stuff has worn thin IMO.

I want to see Kiser get out there quickly tonight.
Ideally u get to seem DK w/ 1st team or against the Gints 1st team.

I want Hue to play the QB who he thinks is the best to get the reps w/the first team.

I want the fans to accept his decisions.

As much as I like Kizer thus far, I think it is a smart move to play the experienced veteran to start the season. Brock is an anomaly, he can look good and look bad play after play. But he still has the experience at this point to begin the season. What would be nice is if he pulls out a couple wins and lets Kizer continue to learn. If the record is bad after four games, I say pull him and play Kizer the rest of the year.

I want Hue to call me up and seek my advice before coming to a final conclusion lol

Me too............and then to call me so I can tell him to do the exact opposite of whatever you suggest.

I like for decisions to be made with as much info as possible.

I don't want decision to be made on preconceptions I want the players to earn it and put it on film. But I wouldn't be able to make a decision on the starting QB until i get longer look at both QBs vs an opposing teams 1st defense.

Who does the offense function better with? Can we produce offense with then at helm....run game....pass game...effeciency....big plays etc.

If I get enough info from this game then I can make a decision about how i handle the 'dress rehearsal' game.

I prefer that Hue makes the decision rather than you. But hey, that is just me.

Dont worry, ill give u early notice before I tell Hue what to do.

I prefer Hue to make a decision as soon as he's sure, and not to drag this out any longer than possible. The starter will need as many reps with his receivers as possible, and they're already behind the 8-ball.

I also prefer Hue make the right decision... so there's that.

Thanks.

Btw.......I like your comeback. It made me laugh. Nice job of handling the situation.

So, w/that said, I will address your points. I get what you are saying about evaluating Kizer. It makes sense.

Then again, it also makes sense to play Brock exclusively w/the ones [if Hue thinks that he is the qb that gives the team the best chance to win games.]

Kessler got most of the reps w/the ones during the camps and even Kizer got quite a bit. Brock did not. If Hue thinks that Brock is the best qb, then he should get him as many reps w/the ones before the season as possible.

I have no idea what Hue is thinking. I am NOT saying that he thinks Brock is better. I don't know.

I'm just saying that I trust Hue to do the right thing.

I get you ed, but if he isn't making his progressions against 3rd string guys, I don't think he is going to make them against first string guys.

I don't mind Hue throwing him in there to let him get a look at elite speed, but I have no delusions that Kiser is going to make enough progress before week 1 to be the starter.

I'm wondering if Hue is leaning towards starting Kizer? He certainly received more meaningful reps last night than Brock.

I'll back whatever Hue decides, but will say I am a bit surprised.