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Soon as we renegotiate NAFTA.


I doubt it.

We've gone from chants of Mexico paying for the wall, to trump threatening to shut the government down if we as taxpayers don't fund it.



No, we have gone from Mexico paying for the wall to Mexico will pay for it eventually but the safety of the American People can't wait! America First! thumbsup


You mean 30% of the American people can't wait. The other 70% of American's know the POTUS's wall is a wasteful folly.


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I have tried and tried to make you understand you are on the losing end, as usual, of politics. The people do not agree with you, they agree with Trump!

According to The Hill, the DNC raised $3.8 million for the past month, compared to the RNC's staggering $10.2 million -- a record low for the month of July for the Democrats, which they haven't hit since 2007, when the party raised $3.4 million.

The Hill reported that overall, the DNC raised $38.2 million in the first half of the year, compared with the RNC's $75.4 million haul during that period — a $37.2 million difference.

The RNC also credits small-dollar donations for its success this year. Donations of under $200 added up to $33 million.

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So, trump wants another surge in Afghanistan, war with North Korea, and now is ramping up the tough talk with Venezuela, threatening military action.

For a draft dodger, he sure does like using the military a lot.


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Trumps managed to make the Secret Service go broke... lol



Fake News.

The Secret Service has not run out of money: The agency can hire and pay more employees; they simply cannot pay individual employees above the current salary cap. Congress could provide a short-term solution by temporarily lifting the pay caps for the Secret Service, as it did in 2016.
Even the Liberal site Snopes says so...
http://www.snopes.com/secret-service-broke-trump/


"...Cathing Up"? Does CNN not even bother with spell-check anymore?


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Soon as we renegotiate NAFTA.


I doubt it.

We've gone from chants of Mexico paying for the wall, to trump threatening to shut the government down if we as taxpayers don't fund it.



No, we have gone from Mexico paying for the wall to Mexico will pay for it eventually but the safety of the American People can't wait! America First! thumbsup


You mean 30% of the American people can't wait. The other 70% of American's know the POTUS's wall is a wasteful folly.

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but the American people elected Trump knowing full well that building a wall was one of his signature campaign pledges.

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Soon as we renegotiate NAFTA.


I doubt it.

We've gone from chants of Mexico paying for the wall, to trump threatening to shut the government down if we as taxpayers don't fund it.



No, we have gone from Mexico paying for the wall to Mexico will pay for it eventually but the safety of the American People can't wait! America First! thumbsup


You mean 30% of the American people can't wait. The other 70% of American's know the POTUS's wall is a wasteful folly.

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but the American people elected Trump knowing full well that building a wall was one of his signature campaign pledges.


He didn't have majority support.


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None of the candidates had majority support. In any case, we elect our Presidents via the electoral college, so there really wasn't much sense in campaigning in a state like California, which accounted for the entire difference in national popular vote and then some.

This is something that the Democrats' understanding of was lacking in and it showed in Hillary's campaign strategy.

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That's fine about strategy, but again, he didn't have majority support in the country. More people preferred Hillary over trump.

So with regards to the wall, not only was he not supported by the majority, he has even less support when it comes to the wall.

I now with a sub 35% on his approval rating, it's gonna be hard for him to pass any sort of meaningful legislation until he starts actually leading.

He reality is that trump has spent more time bickering and picking petty fights with people that he hasn't gotten much of anything done. He rather be on twitter than pushing his party's healthcare bill that he endorsed. He's out here doing campaign rallies not even 7 months into office.

And he lost even more support once people took their rose colored glasses off and realized that Mexico wasn't, isn't, and will never pay for the wall. Then he lost even MORE support when he threatened to shut the government down unless...guess who? WE pay for the wall.

All you're doing is playing the violin while the ship sinks.


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All this stuff about leading sounds like the things I heard last year about how Trump was going to end up sabotaging Republican members of Congress. The reality is he ended up carrying the GOP to majorities in both houses.

I believe the Democrats are 0/4 (or is it 0/5 now?) in special elections since the general election. In fairness, that probably has more to do with how abominable that party has become than what Trump or other Republicans have done.

The GOP has been disappointing and hasn't gotten any signature legislation through yet. There's still time but they sure seemed ill-prepared, no argument there.

Also, have you ever thought about why you are so against the wall, and immigration enforcement in general? Think about some simple economic effects of widespread illegal immigration-- taking jobs and driving down wages for the lower class. It seems inconsistent with many of your other political beliefs.

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More foolishness.

Try to understand your Countries laws now...

-The Majority does not rule in America.
-Presidential elections are decided by the Electoral College which allows smaller states to have a fairer say with larger states according to population.
-Hillary is a Loser and the Law backs that up!

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All this stuff about leading sounds like the things I heard last year about how Trump was going to end up sabotaging Republican members of Congress. The reality is he ended up carrying the GOP to majorities in both houses.



And yet here he is, sabotaging the GOP. I've never seen so many republicans distance themselves from their president in my life. So looks like what we were predicting last year is starting to come true.

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I believe the Democrats are 0/4 (or is it 0/5 now?) in special elections since the general election. In fairness, that probably has more to do with how abominable that party has become than what Trump or other Republicans have done.



Exactly, trump sucks, but the Dems are also lacking in leadership and have no message. I'm dead serious when I say that I can go in there and run the party. The only dem with a backbone is nacy pelosi, but she's gonna retire soon.

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The GOP has been disappointing and hasn't gotten any signature legislation through yet. There's still time but they sure seemed ill-prepared, no argument there.



Remember that includes trump. He's part of the GOP, no matter how much guys like 40 attempt to distance him from republicans.

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Also, have you ever thought about why you are so against the wall, and immigration enforcement in general? Think about some simple economic effects of widespread illegal immigration-- taking jobs and driving down wages for the lower class. It seems inconsistent with many of your other political beliefs.


This is the part where once again, you start pulling assumptions out of your ass and continue to be wrong.

I've made it perfectly clear that I'm right leaning when it comes to immigration. You conveniently ignore that every single time, and it only makes you look ignorant because of it. Obviously I have thought about why I'm against the wall, as I've made my reasonings why perfectly clear. It's not my fault you choose to ignore it. Or maybe you do it because you know that if you actually paid any sort of attention to what I post, you won't have a leg to stand on.

Like now.

My beliefs are consistent. But once again your assumptions about me continue to be wrong, it it's clear that won't be changing anytime soon. You can't even get my basic ideology down yet you think your analysis on my political beliefs are correct.

That's ignorance and being oblivious on your part. But that's not surprising, because Trump is the same way.

We vote for people who most closely represents who we are, after all.

Anyways, to 40:

You should be happy the majority doesn't rule when it comes to elections, cause that's the only way republicans win the oval now: by technicalities.

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We vote for people who most closely represents who we are, after all.


If that were the case a lot more women should have voted for Trump, and a lot more men should have voted for Hillary laugh


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We need a person in the White House who doesn't fear the media, who doesn't embrace political correctness, who doesn't need the money, who is familiar with success, who won't bow to foreign dictators, who is pro-military and values law enforcement, and who is angry for America and NOT subservient to the interests of other nations. Donald Trump is such a man. thumbsup

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We need a person in the White House who doesn't fear the media, who doesn't embrace political correctness, who doesn't need the money, who is familiar with success, who won't bow to foreign dictators, who is pro-military and values law enforcement, and who is angry for America and NOT subservient to the interests of other nations. Donald Trump is such a man. thumbsup


Donald trump can't stop sucking up to a dictator in Putin.

Sorry but trump is and will always be a fraud. The moment you finally realize you got conned, the better off you and he rest of the trump supporters will be.

But I get it. If I got played and bought the Brooklyn bridge, I wouldn't readily admit it either. Got that Stockholm syndrome.


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We need a person in the White House who doesn't fear the media, who doesn't embrace political correctness, who doesn't need the money, who is familiar with success, who won't bow to foreign dictators, who is pro-military and values law enforcement, and who is angry for America and NOT subservient to the interests of other nations. Donald Trump is such a man. thumbsup


Donald trump can't stop sucking up to a dictator in Putin.

Sorry but trump is and will always be a fraud. The moment you finally realize you got conned, the better off you and he rest of the trump supporters will be.

But I get it. If I got played and bought the Brooklyn bridge, I wouldn't readily admit it either. Got that Stockholm syndrome.

Fake news. You need proof for accusations like this and even liberal media has largely moved past this story (mainly because that little thing called evidence is lacking.)

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Fake News!

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Go ask Robert mueller for evidence, which got appointed by a conservative, who has the support of the conservatives in congress, who are also conducting their own conservative investigation.

The only fake news being spread is by trump and his supporters.

Let me know when Mexico builds that wall. Oh yea, and RIP to the bowling green massacre victims. Never forget.


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Go ask Robert mueller for evidence, which got appointed by a conservative, who has the support of the conservatives in congress, who are also conducting their own conservative investigation.

The only fake news being spread is by trump and his supporters.

Let me know when Mexico builds that wall. Oh yea, and RIP to the bowling green massacre victims. Never forget.

I wouldn't know how to get a hold of Robert Mueller in order to request the evidence. However, I have a friend who is a sort of private detective and I will have him call Mr. Mueller and see if he can get a response. His name's mac by the way.

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Go ask Robert mueller for evidence, which got appointed by a conservative, who has the support of the conservatives in congress, who are also conducting their own conservative investigation.


You confuse Conservative with Establishment.

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Mac has connections all the way to the EU.


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Go ask Robert mueller for evidence, which got appointed by a conservative, who has the support of the conservatives in congress, who are also conducting their own conservative investigation.


You confuse Conservative with Establishment.


Did I? Cause from my perspective they are one in the same.


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Fake News!


Everything you don't like is Fake News. You must be up to your chin in fake news everyday. rolleyes

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Fake News!


Everything you don't like is Fake News. You must be up to your chin in fake news everyday. rolleyes


Everything they lie about, every untruth, every twist of a statement, that is Fake News!

You wouldn't recognize it because 9 times out of 10 you are it.

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The problem is you can't tell what the truth is.

Trump NEVER told the American people they would have to finance a wall until now. Mexico isn't paying for it. Now that's truth in reporting.

And in case you missed it, renegotiating NAFTA only gives that money back to businesses. It won't repay American tax payers.


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Fake News!

Today...

With Mexico being one of the highest crime Nations in the world, we must have THE WALL. Mexico will pay for it through reimbursement/other.
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Trump says Canada, Mexico being "very difficult" on NAFTA



WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Donald Trump is accusing Canada and Mexico of being "very difficult" at the negotiating table over the North American Free Trade Agreement, and threatening anew to terminate the deal.

Trump tweeted on Sunday morning that NAFTA is the "worst trade deal ever made."

Trump said at a rally last week in Phoenix that he would "end up probably terminating" NAFTA "at some point."

The U.S., Mexico and Canada began formal negotiations earlier this month to rework the 23-year-old trade pact that Trump blames for hundreds of thousands of lost U.S. factory jobs.

Trump is also taking to Twitter to press the need for his promised southern border wall, tweeting that Mexico will pay for it "through reimbursement/other." Mexico has repeatedly said there's no chance of that happening.

Mexico's foreign relations ministry responded to Trump's comments Sunday by reiterating that Mexico will never pay for a border wall and that it will not renegotiate NAFTA via social media or the press.

In a statement, the ministry also emphasized that the violence generated by drug trafficking is a shared problem between Mexico and the U.S., which creates the demand for drugs.

The second round of the NAFTA renegotiation is scheduled to begin Friday in Mexico City.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-say...1--finance.html

who knew that negotiating trade deals would be so complicated?


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The cited Trump's non-interest in vulnerability of critical systems and his response to Charlottesville. One thing you don't want to lose is the cyber security team. ~smh

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1/4 of the team resigned.

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1/4 of the team resigned.


Cyber Security is as important as the armed forces in today's America! Imagine 1/4 of the Military resigning en masse! Don't act like it is a small thing. And this may only be the tip of the iceberg; Trump is ignoring cyber threats! He's an IDIOT.

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Why don't you just imagine it as you do with most of your posts.

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Why don't you just imagine it as you do with most of your posts.


witty.

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1/4 of the team resigned.


Cyber Security is as important as the armed forces in today's America! Imagine 1/4 of the Military resigning en masse! Don't act like it is a small thing. And this may only be the tip of the iceberg; Trump is ignoring cyber threats! He's an IDIOT.


Omg the sky IS falling!


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1/4 of the team resigned.


Cyber Security is as important as the armed forces in today's America! Imagine 1/4 of the Military resigning en masse! Don't act like it is a small thing. And this may only be the tip of the iceberg; Trump is ignoring cyber threats! He's an IDIOT.


Omg the sky IS falling!


Sounds like a chunk hit you in the head! wink

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Nice to see President Trump in Texas, cheering on the people and raising their hopes!

Even CNBC mentioned they are not seeing this on the other News Networks. "Wonder why?" they smirked.

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Nice to see President Trump in Texas, cheering on the people and raising their hopes!

Even CNBC mentioned they are not seeing this on the other News Networks. "Wonder why?" they smirked.


And yet you blasted the media for criticizing leadership in Texas for not issuing mandatory evacuations last week before the Hurricane made landfall. Now there's thousands needing rescue and people dying when they should have been evacuated. thumbsdown


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If they had listened to meteorologists instead of listening to politicians they would have evacuated. But that would actually mean trusting scientists which actually know about our climate rather than right wingers. We can't have that in Texas.


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If they had listened to meteorologists instead of listening to politicians they would have evacuated. But that would actually mean trusting scientists which actually know about our climate rather than right wingers. We can't have that in Texas.


Get off your high horse.


I made a post about them having time to evacuate, etc. I heard the mayor of Houston make a comment along the lines of "if we forced an evacuation of 7 million people, the roads would've been parking lots and many, many people would've drowned."

He's got a point.

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I'm sure the people sitting on their rooftops right now would disagree with you.


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