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Originally Posted By: Riley01

So are you accusing me of advocating hate groups ?


I don't think he means that at all. I think he is saying you are one confused guy since your glorious leader seems to think there are good guys in those groups. That makes it very hard for you to withhold your Trumpian propaganda from the conversation which in turn provides cover for the altright extremist groups. So in effect I guess you are supporting them which could be construed as advocacy .

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Reading your post is like trying to follow the conversations of the skinny drunk on king of the hill. I know you and 40 know this show.

Man all I do is make my point and ask questions if you don't agree fine sorry if I DONT SPEW HATE AND LIES

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Reading your post is like trying to follow the conversations of the skinny drunk on king of the hill. I know you and 40 know this show.

Man all I do is make my point and ask questions if you don't agree fine sorry if I DONT SPEW HATE AND LIES


I'm happy to talk to you and read all your posts. It's just sometimes completing a sentence and a thought before going onto the next makes it much easier to read. Punctuation helps a lot even if it's poorly used.

I'm not so sure about the hate and lies thing but I agree that you don't think you are. You and 40 and others like you take all that far right/alt-right propaganda to heart and believe in many of the conspiracy theories out there, so sometimes you do spread hate and lies.

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illegal immigration was going down while deportations were going up under obama.

stop lying.

So whats your problem with TRUMP or Arpaio doing the same as Obama ...oh yeah he,s your guy pfffft


The sheriff violated people's 4th amendment rights by racial profiling, and then continued to do so even after direct order from the courts not to.

It's that simple.


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Fascism is currently spreading, and the main source is the oval.

LOL... Man you are one confused guy cause ANTIFA is receiving all the cover from your left wing officials but I guess as long as they are using violence to stop freedom of speech against people that don't agree with their politics and the lefts its ok..... wow


Cover? There are Dems defending Antifa right now?

I just saw the mayor of Berkeley state that he wants them listed under criminal gangs. I dunno what you're talking about.


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Fascism is currently spreading, and the main source is the oval.

LOL... Man you are one confused guy cause ANTIFA is receiving all the cover from your left wing officials but I guess as long as they are using violence to stop freedom of speech against people that don't agree with their politics and the lefts its ok..... wow


Cover? There are Dems defending Antifa right now?

I just saw the mayor of Berkeley state that he wants them listed under criminal gangs. I dunno what you're talking about.


Perfect defended them many times.

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Fascism is currently spreading, and the main source is the oval.

LOL... Man you are one confused guy cause ANTIFA is receiving all the cover from your left wing officials but I guess as long as they are using violence to stop freedom of speech against people that don't agree with their politics and the lefts its ok..... wow


Cover? There are Dems defending Antifa right now?

I just saw the mayor of Berkeley state that he wants them listed under criminal gangs. I dunno what you're talking about.


Perfect defended them many times.


Yes, at the time they were battling NAZIS.

It was really easy to pick at team that weekend. After that, all this other crap they're doing has to stop.


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After that, all this other crap they're doing has to stop.


^^^this. right here.^^^


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Originally Posted By: Swish
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Fascism is currently spreading, and the main source is the oval.

LOL... Man you are one confused guy cause ANTIFA is receiving all the cover from your left wing officials but I guess as long as they are using violence to stop freedom of speech against people that don't agree with their politics and the lefts its ok..... wow


Cover? There are Dems defending Antifa right now?

I just saw the mayor of Berkeley state that he wants them listed under criminal gangs. I dunno what you're talking about.


Perfect defended them many times.


Yes, at the time they were battling NAZIS.

It was really easy to pick at team that weekend. After that, all this other crap they're doing has to stop.


Seems your little Militia has gotten out of even your control now. They are crushing much more than Nazis. They are crushing the Left in this Country as we shout, "They are all the same!"

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Under his command, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office boasted the highest percentage of Hispanic deputies, detention officers and staff in the state of Arizona. Moreover, he promoted more Hispanic officers to command positions than any other law enforcement agency in the state.

On top of this, Arpaio has two grandchildren who are of Hispanic descent. To say he is biased again his own family members is absurd.


Hmmmmm.......

I think I am beginning to despise the left.

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Under his command, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office boasted the highest percentage of Hispanic deputies, detention officers and staff in the state of Arizona. Moreover, he promoted more Hispanic officers to command positions than any other law enforcement agency in the state.

On top of this, Arpaio has two grandchildren who are of Hispanic descent. To say he is biased again his own family members is absurd.


Hmmmmm.......

I think I am beginning to despise the left.


you've been saying this for years now. nobody is taking you seriously.


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Another lie.

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Unfortunately for you it isn't.


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Just stop! I have only started criticizing the left since all the whining, crying, and narrow-mindedness began after Trump won the election.

And while I said I am beginning to hate the left, I have hated the right for decades and still do.

Your attempt to deflect the attention away from the the part of the article I quoted onto me is pathetic and revealing of why I am beginning to hate the left.

You don't have enough fairness to admit to maybe being wrong after reading that the guy employed more Hispanics than other departments and that he has grandchildren w/Hispanic blood in them. No, you are unable to look at a situation objectively.

Instead, you make up a lie about me and throw in an insult for good measure.

Now, get lost.

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Bla blah blah stop being soft.


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Under his command, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office boasted the highest percentage of Hispanic deputies, detention officers and staff in the state of Arizona. Moreover, he promoted more Hispanic officers to command positions than any other law enforcement agency in the state.

On top of this, Arpaio has two grandchildren who are of Hispanic descent. To say he is biased again his own family members is absurd.


Hmmmmm.......

I think I am beginning to despise the left.


So just because he has a bunch of hispanic cops he ordered to racially profile other hispanics makes him not a criminal? Not a racist? If he's not a racist, would it be possible for him to still be practicing racism? It has happened before. I'm sure we've all had a grandparent make a situation very awkward when they refer to a black person. I'd hope none of our grandparents our racist; I know my grandmother was not. Anyway, if he was practicing racism by enforcing racial prejudices would that then be systemic racism due to racial profiling? I'm wondering because I've seen you question the plight of other minorities by saying hispanics were the most oppressed race currently. But now you're even wanting to overlook them now? This is a man who has bragged that his budget on dog food was higher than the inmate's food.

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There's no excuse for having those working for you making traffic stops based on the color of someones skin. There's just not.


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Look...........I don't know all of the truth and neither do any of you.

I thought the guy was a turd. However, seeing that information gives me pause. I think it is something worthy of consideration and I believe having an open mind about a situation trumps assigning blame to one side and excusing poor decisions on the other side.

It's not as simple as black and white.

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I didn't know there were two sides to a person ignoring a court order and then being convicted of contempt of court. Please tell me the other side of it?


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I'm simply asking. The guy violated a court order. He was convicted of contempt of court.

Now in all honesty, he claimed to be profiling Latinos in an effort to find illegal aliens. I don't see what that has to do with hiring legal people. Those are two different scenarios.

And actually, I agree with him that illegals should be captured and removed from our country. I'm actually a supporter of the border wall.

My problem is when you target an entire race of people to find the bad apples in the bunch. That's illegal and a violation of the fourth amendment. That's what he was doing. That's what the court ordered him to stop and that's what he refused to do.

While I disagree with his method, I too feel everyone in our nation legally deserves a right to employment. I believe those here illegally do not. Where the difference comes in is I can not and will not support targeting an entire race of people in order to separate the two.

Just like I don't support DUI checkpoints. You don't pull over and bother a bunch of innocent people to try to find a few bad apples.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I'm simply asking. The guy violated a court order. He was convicted of contempt of court.

Now in all honesty, he claimed to be profiling Latinos in an effort to find illegal aliens. I don't see what that has to do with hiring legal people. Those are two different scenarios.

And actually, I agree with him that illegals should be captured and removed from our country. I'm actually a supporter of the border wall.

My problem is when you target an entire race of people to find the bad apples in the bunch. That's illegal and a violation of the fourth amendment. That's what he was doing. That's what the court ordered him to stop and that's what he refused to do.

While I disagree with his method, I too feel everyone in our nation legally deserves a right to employment. I believe those here illegally do not. Where the difference comes in is I can not and will not support targeting an entire race of people in order to separate the two.

Just like I don't support DUI checkpoints. You don't pull over and bother a bunch of innocent people to try to find a few bad apples.

I'm pretty sure this is not accurate.

The court order was that he had to stop detaining people only for immigration status. In other words, somebody could tell one of his officers they were an illegal immigrant and they would not be able to do anything about it unless they also committed another crime. Apparently he kept enforcing immigration law although there is some dispute about how much he knew what was going on.

There's a separate logical thing that few people would dare bring up, and that is exactly what percentage of illegals in southern Arizona happen to be of Latino descent. I don't have the number of that but if I had to guess, I'd say it's upwards of 99%. It stands to reason that even good faith enforcement of immigration laws will appear like it's profiling even if it is not.

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