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Just wait.............as the team continue to flounder due to the genius moves of Sashi Brown [the business attorney] the narrative of fire Hue and make Williams the HC will grow!

You're turning into Mac with your "business lawyer" crap. Osweiler is an awful QB. Did you watch the first 2 reason games? He is horribly inaccurate. Question the move to buy a 2nd rounder if you want, but Osweiler isn't good.

You can insult me, but I think that I know more about qb play than most of you guys.

I did watch the first two games. Brock got very few series. I saw receivers dropping passes, failing to get their feet down in the end zone, multiple penalties, poor field position, etc.............

I then read about how terrible he was.

Then, I saw Kize put up similar results w/similar issues and I read from our intelligent posters about how bad the supporting cast was.

LMAO......I think most of you are full of crap!

Have a pleasant evening.

lol I hope not Vers...I hope it all comes together smooth as butter...I am hoping that something finally good happens to our beloved Browns...the players and fans def. deserve it.

Nice post, bro. I hope so, too.

I'm just frustrated. Sorry.

O'Brien wanted Osweiler gone in Houston because he was so bad, and because he caused problems. Houston traded away a 2nd round pick to get rid of him, knowing they would be left with Tom Savage.

Hue played him in 2 games and he wasn't good. Yes, Britt should have caught the TD in the 1st game, but Brock was high on a ton of throws.

Kizer definitely has a lot to improve on. I feel he can do it. I know that Osweiler can't.

lol I am too buddy. 20 years of swimming in the backyard swamp instead of indoor heated pool will do that to a person... no worries I am frustrated too my friend

Dude, you don't know squat. You are just another homer mouth among hundreds.

Right, people who disagree with you are "homer mouths." I've seen Osweiler play. O'Brien and Hue coached him. Both were ok with him being gone. He has the same glaring flaws he had in college. He is an OK backup and nothing more.

What have you seen from him that makes you think so highly of him?

I am pretty sure you attacked me first. I don't remember responding to you BEFORE you called me out. Am I wrong about that?

Look here, you wanna call me out.........fine. But, don't get all butt hurt if I respond.

I don't know if Brock is good or not. Never said he was. My first reaction to the trade was horror and I expressed that. I believed some of the false reports that posters on here gave. Then, I started researching and found that some of their claims were untrue. I maintained that I would keep an open mind. How horrific!

I'm glad he is gone. I'm sick of reading dumb ass evaluations from people who don't have a clue about qb play. The bashings of Brock will continue for awhile, but they'll die off, and I won't have to listen to stupid ass evaluations from the likes of you.

Gee, I wonder why?????????????????

His beloved fans in Houston were being hit hard by Hurricane Harvey?

jc

I got over Brock when he decided to be snarky about Kizer starting.

Just say no to drama.

See ya, Brock.

You also said this...in this very thread.



For a guy with such great QB evaluation skills, it's telling that they cut the guy who you thought was the best guy on the team.

*** You are ignoring this user ***

No one cares if you are ignoring a user, so stop posting childish stuff like it actually means something to the people on here. And it's a quite cowardly way to respond to someone challenging your agenda because you clearly looked at his post first before posting this.

I always thought we would keep Osweiler...

Regardless we are/will pay him $16 mill this year...thank god our back up QBs are young and cheap...because we are now paying one of their roster spots as well.

Now I know Osweiler isn't very good and has regressed some after leaving Denver and their scheme...But I do like him better than Kessler. Kessler just compresses the field too much.

I don't see Kizer lasting 16 games as our QB (Nothing against Kizer, but odds of probability always come in factor, when was the last time only one QB has taken all of our snaps the entire year...I dont know if it has ever happened in all honesty)....so we will certainly see Kessler and probably Hogan as well...and maybe even someone else

I actually think he's trying to send everyone not-so-subliminal messages to ignore his posts. Typing a message every time someone else posts clearly isn't ignoring them. It does clutter up a thread, though.

Hue picked Kizer. Brock showed no interest in being the backup. We'll find out if any other teams see him as a starter, but I suspect he could be waiting awhile for that shot. Wouldn't be surprised if he went the way of Kaep. Good enough to be on a team, but just not worth the aggravation for a guy who hopefully wouldn't see the field.

My "attack" in you was strictly based on your stupid, repeated comments about Sashi Brown. The comment was even valid to an extent, yet you made the same comment in several threads with anything you disagreed with. You play the victim extremely well.

As far you being smarter than everyone else, you can think what you want. Several NFL people agree with tons of people on here that Osweiler is not a good QB. Even if he is even with Kizer, you play Kizer. Osweiler has proven over several years that he isn't going to improve much at all.

Nice post.

J/c ...

I wonder why aquiring a 2nd rnd pick for 16 million wasn't a problem until we cut him ...

The FO made a genius move a few months ago when we made the trade and everyone thought he'd be cut before OTA's ...

Now all of a sudden its an outrageous price ...

Not everyone thought it was a genius move.

Do you think it was a genius move?

Initially ... yes ... i thought it was pure genius ...

Now ... after being able to think about it ... its a steep price ... given our situation i have no problem with it ... just not sure id classify it as genius though ... we have a couple tons of cap space ... were clearly building through the draft ... so this makes perfect sense and i think its a good move ... genius would have been doing it for a 1st round pick or for 10 mill in cap space .. *L* ...

My reasoning for thinking its not genius anymore has NOTHING TO DO WITH US CUTTING BO ...

I just feel this way...There is literally no way Kizer will last all season...Kessler compresses the field too much...We will see him play...Kessler will probably go down injured, we will see Hogan at some point as well...And maybe even someone else...I pray not, I really do...

How many times yearly are we seeing some scrub QB out there by week 15-16...often; I will tell you that.

I think they thought it was a genius move initially also... and I think it somewhat backfired a tad. They couldn't trade Osweiler for more picks and he didn't do much to warrant retention. But hey, we still have a pick to use, so there's still time to gain something of value. We are still in a youth movement, and Brock didn't fit unless he proved he could be the man. He is nothing more than a back-up with a steep price tag. He will probably be signed by someone. Of course if I'm Brock I just call it a career and move on...

The man who constantly berates posters for disagreeing with others calls everyone full of crap. Nice.

So Brock had similar numbers to a raw rookie who is only 21. Interesting. I wish we all were experts like you.

Legend in your own mind. Now attack me, it's what you do

And with having that "couple of tons of cap space" spending a few million to keep our best interior OL depth wasn't worth the price.

We save money so we can waste money.

I was probably the 1st person to celebrate when my high school alum, John Greco, was traded for by the Browns. was shocked that the Rams would trade him, and pleased that we got him.

I am also not surprised that Greco is gone now.

I figured that he would be gone when the off-season started. However, he healed up quickly. I still had it in the back of my head that a 32 year old backup OL was probably not going go make the team. Once we had some injuries, I let it get into my head that maybe he had a chance, but he really never did. The Browns are a team committed to getting younger. They did Greco a favor in allowing him to show that he is healthy again, but they had no intention of starting the season with a 32 year old backup. They are not building for this year, but rather for 2 years from now. They need to develop depth, and additional assets. Greco is neither, unfortunately. It's no surprise that he's gone, and in fact, it would have been more surprising if he had made the team.

j/c:


https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/904056936861233153

I think this is referring specifically to Denver

Maybe you'll be a bit more surprised if Botonio goes down and Grecco isn't here to step in.

I hoped that Greco would stay. However, I am not surprised that he didn't.

Not many 32 year old players are going to have a place on this rebuilding team.

Yes, being a back-up interior OL player is a symbol about rebuilding. Do you hear yourself? Really?

Let me ask you this. Is it the job of a HC and GM to build the best roster they can from the players they have been given to work with in order to give their team the best chance to win games or isn't it?

We can make excuses, talk about rebuilding or anything you want to. But there's no excuse to wave the best back up interior OL player on your team that you have signed for chump change. None. If you have a young player who is better or more talented, fine. Keeping Grecco would have given them another year to do that.

Now you go ahead and make excuses why they didn't keep their best interior line depth who was already signed. And just remember you did this if and when injuries hit. Our fans have screamed about our OL and depth there. Now they're making excuses how "they understand" letting good OL talent go.

Are u trying to compare a 32 year old utility OLman coming off a major injury to a 2nd rnd draft pick that we have no clue who it will be or what position they wil play? ...

OK, that sounds pretty fair ... ...

No. You can't really compare a 3 mil salary to a 16 mil salary. Especially when one player would have been useful and the other one wasn't.

Osweiler back to the Broncos.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/904148349296791552