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WSU Willie #1308112 09/02/17 03:53 PM
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It seems that any player who is put on IR, who can return at mid-season, has to 1st be on the roster @53.

Rod Johnson is evidently (reportedly) going to be one of these players, so who knows what the OL will look like when it all washes out.


A non-vested player has to be waived/injured before he can go to the IR (before the 53 is "set"). As waived, he can be claimed by any other team. Once he "makes" the 53, I believe we can IR him without being required to waive/injured him first.


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The Browns on Saturday made a handful of roster moves to get their roster down from 65 players to 53. The roster will remain this size throughout the regular season with 46 eligible to play on game days.


The following moves were made Saturday.
-- Cleveland acquired WR Sammie Coates and a 2019 seventh-round pick in a trade with the Steelers for a 2018 sixth-round pick.

-- The Browns terminated the contracts of OL John Greco and QB Brock Osweiler

-- There were 11 players waived: RB Terrence Magee, LB Deon King, WR Jordan Payton, WR Jordan Leslie, WR Rannell Hall, TE J.P. Holtz, OL Anthony Fabiano, DL Xavier Cooper, LB Kenneth Olugbode, DB Najee Murray, K Cody Parkey


Nine of the Browns’ 10-man 2017 draft class made the 53, including RB Matthew Dayes, who was the second to last pick in the entire draft. The lone member that didn’t, DB Howard Wilson, was placed on reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) on Friday.

Twenty-eight of Cleveland’s 53 were acquired through the draft, including 20 in the past two classes. Twenty-one of the 53 were new additions to the roster at some point in 2017. Forty-two of the 53 have been added since 2016.

“We have some core guys that we expect, who are not only here now but will be here for a long time, and then adding a lot of fresh young talent to the roster in guys that are competitive and embrace the way we want to build who obviously fit our scheme,” Browns executive vice president of football operations Sashi Brown said. “Year over year we’re going to have some opportunities to put some talent on this roster both in free agency and the draft. We obviously had a trade today and we’ll be looking at every opportunity to improve the roster moving forward, but we do like we’re young and the talent is not only better, but also ascending.”


The Browns 53-man roster breaks down as follows:
Offense (25)
Quarterbacks (3): DeShone Kizer, Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan; running backs (3): Isaiah Crowell, Duke Johnson Jr., Matthew Dayes; fullback (1): Danny Vitale; wide receivers (5): Kenny Britt, Corey Coleman, Sammie Coates, Ricardo Louis, Rashard Higgins; tight ends (3): Randall Telfer, Seth DeValve, David Njoku; offensive linemen (10): Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Kevin Zeitler, Shon Coleman, Rod Johnson, Marcus Martin, Spencer Drango, Austin Reiter, Zach Sterup
Defense (25)
Defensive linemen (10): Myles Garrett, Danny Shelton, Trevon Coley, Emmanuel Ogbah, Caleb Brantley, Tyrone Holmes, Jamie Meder, Carl Nassib, Larry Ogunjobi, Nate Orchard; linebackers (5): Jamie Collins Sr., Christian Kirksey, Joe Schobert, Dominique Alexander, James Burgess; defensive backs (10): Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Jason McCourty, Marcus Burley, Darius Hillary, Jabrill Peppers, Derrick Kindred, Ibraheim Campbell, Calvin Pryor III, Kai Nacua
Specialists (3)
Kicker (1): Zane Gonzalez; punter (1): Britton Colquitt; long snapper (1): Charley Hughlett

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...12-f3fdbaf173c0

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so Payton gets cut


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Rod will be to IR, so that'll open a slot


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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we also kept a LOT of DB/DL


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
we also kept a LOT of DB/DL


Gregg Williams has shown a propensity to utilize that LB/S position so the DB number kind of makes sense.

We might still try to swing a trade with someone on the DL. Nothing's final yet, and those last few guys probably shouldn't get too comfortable.


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#Browns waived: WR Rashard Higgins, DB Darius Hillary, DL Tyrone Holmes and DB Kai Nacua and terminated the contract of DB Marcus Burley


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wish Holmes would have stuck, nacua maybe a PS guy


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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#Browns waived: WR Rashard Higgins, DB Darius Hillary, DL Tyrone Holmes and DB Kai Nacua and terminated the contract of DB Marcus Burley




Looks like we will soon see our waiver claims. Got to clear the slots before you can announce the claims.


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J/C,

Well we are now down to 4 CB's, but have 4 QB's???


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More changes are coming. As of now we have

Offense

10 OL
4 RB
6 WR
3 TE
4 QB

Defense
6 DT
4 DE
5 LB
4 Safety
4 CB

3 Specialists


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Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
J/C,

Well we are now down to 4 CB's, but have 4 QB's???


I wouldn't be surprised if they are fielding offers for Kessler.


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Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
J/C,

Well we are now down to 4 CB's, but have 4 QB's???




Sounds like QB is going to be shipped soon in a trade.


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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
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J/C,

Well we are now down to 4 CB's, but have 4 QB's???


I wouldn't be surprised if they are fielding offers for Kessler.


Probably my guess too, but 4 CB's is not enough.

Plus we still haven't designated Johnson to the IR.


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Glad to see the front office realized their error in drafting WRS that really aren't cut out to be NFL wrs like Higgins Hall
Coates and Williams are upgrades
This new NFL is about are you ready to contribute at a high level or not as in NOW !! Some posters wanted to give bums like Higgins 5 years to develop.Darn.those days are done. Developmental windows are smaller than ever before

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J/C,

Well we are now down to 4 CB's, but have 4 QB's???




Sounds like QB is going to be shipped soon in a trade.


Aftre trading Jacoby Brissett to Indy the Pats are down a QB maybe they want someone to hold the clip board. For a late round pick Cody Kessler would do that job just fine.


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J/C,

Well we are now down to 4 CB's, but have 4 QB's???




Sounds like QB is going to be shipped soon in a trade.


Aftre trading Jacoby Brissett to Indy the Pats are down a QB maybe they want someone to hold the clip board. For a late round pick Cody Kessler would do that job just fine.


Many teams only carry two QBs.

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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
Glad to see the front office realized their error in drafting WRS that really aren't cut out to be NFL wrs like Higgins Hall
Coates and Williams are upgrades
This new NFL is about are you ready to contribute at a high level or not as in NOW !! Some posters wanted to give bums like Higgins 5 years to develop.Darn.those days are done. Developmental windows are smaller than ever before




Ok...name a poster who going to give them 5 years.


OK....I know you were just saying....no sweat.



I do agree, I like that the FO can move on. For over a decade I have been saying the only thing wrong with a bad pick is to stick with a bad pick.


Just move on. I don't have a problem with that. Even the top picks like Garret probably only give a FO about a 75% chance of panning out, if that. Even less like with a guy like Warren, who was a good, solid player, but never lived up to his draft status. Had he been a 3rd rounder, everybody would have been thrilled.


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Only Parkey and Cooper got claimed out of the guys we cut.

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Leslie surprised me on the field AND the release. Looked like a keeper to me over some of the others we have.


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funny to see Parkey sign in Miami even though he blew the game for us down there


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
funny to see Parkey sign in Miami even though he blew the game for us down there


He was 3 for 6 in that game. That was the "Terrelle Pryor does everything" game. I don't believe Parkey even practiced with the team in Cleveland before that game (there was an article written above his crazy circumstances at the time).

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funny to see Parkey sign in Miami even though he blew the game for us down there


He was 3 for 6 in that game. That was the "Terrelle Pryor does everything" game. I don't believe Parkey even practiced with the team in Cleveland before that game (there was an article written above his crazy circumstances at the time).



He showed up and kicked.



I am not sticking up for him over Gonzalez,. but it is ignorant to think he blew the game.


That is simpleton talk


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4 QB"s .. Did I miss something ?

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Originally Posted By: waterdawg
4 QB"s .. Did I miss something ?


nope .. but figure something is going to happen ...


The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
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I just saw where we claimed one .. Up to speed now !

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Please tell me who is the 4th qb ?

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Originally Posted By: Homewood Dog
Please tell me who is the 4th qb ?


Woodrum has never played in a regular-season game. He was undrafted out of Liberty in 2016.

He had a strong preseason for the Ravens, going 25-for-36 (69.4 percent) for 321 yards with two touchdowns, no interceptions and a 115.6 rating. He added two rushing touchdowns.

He set Liberty career records with 10,266 passing yards and 833 completions, and his 61 passing touchdowns ranked second.

He spent most of the offseason with the Bills before joining the Ravens. He was with the Colts last offseason and spent time on Chicago’s practice squad.

https://www.brownszone.com/2017/09/03/browns-claim-5-off-waivers-including-qb-josh-woodrum/


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Josh Woodrum , waived by the Ravens

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Thank you. Sounds like an upgrade over Cody.

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I agree with you wholehearted
Don't hold onto a bad draft pick just because he was taken in the early rds
I think any other regime would have held on to Erving Higgins for 3 more decades
All of a sudden their might be hope for the wr core
Williams did alot of good things as a Seahawk.Higgins did zero as a Brown

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Originally Posted By: Pdawg

He spent most of the offseason with the Bills before joining the Ravens.


Does this mean David Lee coached him and knows him? If so, possibly why we picked him up.

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Least we have our week 17 starter with Woodrum smile Browns obviously like him nontheless

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Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs
Least we have our week 17 starter with Woodrum smile Browns obviously like him nontheless
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We usually go through about 5 QB's a season. At least this year we have the 1st 4 AND they will all have experience in our system. thumbsup

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Still wondering if this QB we signed was with David Lee over in Buffalo, thus why we may have picked him up...

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Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
Still wondering if this QB we signed was with David Lee over in Buffalo, thus why we may have picked him up...


According to his Wikipedia page, Josh Woodrum has been with five teams since going undrafted last year. Giants, then Colts, then Bears, then Ravens, and now the Browns.

He was with the Bills from January 2, 2017 till May 24th, 2017. We hired David Lee on February 8th, 2017.

I don't think Lee would know much if anything about Woodrum.

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Cheers cfrs15!

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Originally Posted By: waterdawg
4 QB"s .. Did I miss something ?


No.

Some say it doesn't make any sense. If we go the whole season with 4 it would be excessive, but we aren't even to game 1. I am sure we feel we can trade one of them. Be it soon or a few weeks in to the season if/when people get hurt.

The roster is still very fluid at this point. Teams are picking up players off the waiver wire, That means a new wave of cuts. We may dump a QB today as new names start hitting the wire....and these are players their team kept..at least for a day or two.


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yeah, i'd be shocked if we didn't cut/trade Kessler in the next few days. I highly doubt we're playing Pittsburgh with 4 QBs on the roster


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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