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I believe we got a legitimate deep threat with some size and speed on the cheap. Did he have some drops? Yes, but mostly with broken fingers. He's certainly better than last years mid rounders we drafted and an upgrade over those guys.

I have a suspicion he will end up being more productive than Britt. We may have just landed our #2 WR for next to nothing. At least until we find someone better because that "someone better" isn't on the roster right now.

He's just getting back from a knee scope, I believe. Hopefully he is/can stay healthy. Kizer operated best at ND when he had Fuller. Coates might be able to fill that role.

Kid hasn't done much in the NFL but I liked him in colleges....basically we trade Gilbert for Coates and a 7th rounder... Not bad to take a flyer on a guy...

I think it's a fantastic trade. We lose virtually nothing and potentially gain a ton. VERY, VERY smart GM decision. This kid has TONS of potential and I think he will become a dynamic player for kizer to air it out to.

Would be interesting if they started him on on IR or something to let his knee finish healing while he learns the playbook to save a roster spot. I seriously doubt he is ready for game one but I bet our DC will have a small edge

Sammy's about to play him some "Quincy Morgan football!"

LOL...say it ain't so...

Wide receiver Sammie Coates has talent to help Browns after trade from Steelers, but he must overcome injury concerns
Published: September 2, 2017 - 2:19 PM

The Browns turned to their most hated rival Saturday for help at one of their weakest positions.

Wide receiver Sammie Coates is heading to Cleveland as a result.

The Browns shipped a 2018 sixth-round draft pick to the Steelers in exchange for Coates and a 2019 seventh-round selection.

But it wasn’t just any sixth-round choice the Browns dealt. It was the same one they received from the Steelers on Sept. 3, 2016, in exchange for cornerback Justin Gilbert, a 2014 first-round pick who’s now out of the NFL.

And get this: Coates and the Browns will face ex-Cleveland captain Joe Haden and the Steelers in the regular-season opener Sept. 10 at FirstEnergy Stadium. Haden signed a three-year, $27 million contract with the Steelers on Wednesday night after the Browns cut the two-time Pro Bowl cornerback that morning. The Coates trade only adds more intrigue to a Week 1 AFC North matchup dripping with drama.

Coates, 24, has the potential to make a difference, but he must overcome durability concerns to maximize his talent.

Coates, 6-foot-1 and 212 pounds, had a scorching start to the 2016 season, racking up 19 catches on 31 targets for 421 yards and two touchdowns in the first five games.

But he suffered a broken left index finger during his breakout game — six receptions for 139 yards and two touchdowns — in Week 5 against the New York Jets, and his production plummeted. He was targeted 17 times and caught only two passes the rest of the season. He finished with five drops.

Additional injuries didn’t help his cause. He suffered a broken left ring finger in Week 9 and also dealt with a groin injury, which required offseason surgery.

In May, Coates told Mark Kaboly of DKPittsburghSports.com the injuries caused him to become “mentally weak during the season” and admitted he started thinking about his broken fingers more than football.

Then this summer, Coates suffered a knee injury while training and underwent arthroscopic surgery in late July. He told ESPN on Saturday he’s “100 percent [healthy] now.” He played in the Steelers’ final three exhibition games and finished the preseason with four catches for 21 yards.

In 2015, the Steelers drafted Coates in the third round (87th overall) out of Auburn University.

Last season, Coates appeared in 14 games with five starts and tallied 21 catches for 435 yards and two touchdowns to go along with six kickoff returns for 150 yards (25 average). As a rookie, he appeared in six games and had one catch for 11 yards.

The Browns desperately need assistance in their receiving corps and hope Coates can provide it. Coates probably would have stuck with the Steelers in a typical year, but an influx of talent in their receiving corps pushed him out of their plans.

https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns...injury-concerns

Now that he doesn't have broken fingers, it ain't so.

Keep the faith.

Trade makes sense for both teams. It is kinda crazy that these two team are making trades w/one another. I remember all the complaining when Banner traded a lower draft pick for a higher draft pick w/Pittsburgh.

Yeah, you and I were on the same side, that it was a great trade for the Browns.

Shamarko Thomas (the payer they drafted with that pick) never did anything in Pitt.

I agree, it feels wierd.

I liked Joe Banner's thoughts on making the trade "If we feel like we can win the trade, then it's worth it because it hurts the rival team."

It does, but I like this trade. Coates does have good physical talent and might develop. If he doesn't, we don't lose hardly anything.

Guys, we don't have the first claim on one claim. We are first for all the players we might claim...this isn't like fantasy.

As for Coates, we don't know that he was going to be cut.

I mentioned this might happen as a waiver pickup in the " Reviewing roster decisions heading into preseason finale" thread. I mentioned a couple other potentials as well, to be fair. For what we paid for him, I think it is hard to complain even if he doesn't work out well.

I can think of one.

We wanted a receiver. To get him if he was cut, we would have to cut another player on the roster.

Maybe the team sees two players on the roster as chips to bolster other positions via the waiver wire.

I am sure we have a list of guys who might be cut on other teams. Some might get cut, some not. We might be willing to cut two existing players, but not three.

There is also the possibilities that the Browns had targeted Coates/Heyward-Bey as possible acquisitions and wanted to make sure they got one of them, or there were other offers for Coates and the Browns did not feel they could afford to wait and see if Steelers could possibly trade him elsewhere.

That's probably why, Steelers were shopping him. Bird in the hand so to speak. We traded basically nothing to get him and keep another team from making a similar trade before he was cut. Good move Sashi!

Steeler fan here. Coates has the potential to be a good deep threat WR. His broken fingers last year are what wrecked his season. If you look at his numbers before the injury he was having a very good season....a couple 100+ yard games, was a nice deep threat. Then he got his fingers caught in a facemask and mangled 2 or 3 of them....to the point that they all had to be surgically repaired.

When he came back, he was not the same guy. He was having a lot more drops than before. I think he was lacking confidence in his hands because of the injury. He seemed to be doing ok this pre season. As long as he's mentally ok, you got yourself a player.

Thanks Pittfan. I live close to the burgh, and when I saw Coates play, he seemed to be pretty good. He is fast and if his fingers are healed, I think he will be a good addition.

If you saw a picture of those fingers....they looked like broken bread sticks, pointing off in all directions. It was pretty gross. When he is healthy he will still drop the occasional ball but with his size and speed, he's a threat downfield and a size mismatch for DB's.

I hope the Browns snag Kasen Williams off waivers.. Higgins spot is not looking good.

Not a bad move for a "lawyer" LOL

I love the kid...and I think the Browns won this trade. If Coates rebounds and gets playing time...HUGE WIN Browns....if he stays exactly the same player he is...WIN Browns.....if he just doesn't have it....cost nothing.

Kid was playing lights out till his fingers were broke...and is a really good gunner on ST.

HACK

He's had 2 years to heal. Hopefully it pans out.

Fingers were just last year...he had like 6 straight games with at least one pass of 40 yards or more to start the season...then mangled those fingers.

HACK

As far as this Pre Season goes....to be fair he would have either had Josh Dobbs or Landry Jones throwing the ball to him, as Ben only played one series out of all 4 games. So there is a good chance most of those passes were either one hoppers or over his head. I wouldn't base much off this pre season.

thanks steeler fans, nice info1

I thought Leslie could have filled that deep threat roll, the way he played in the preseason.

Let me guess, I was insulting you again?

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Yet another spectacular contribution to an interesting thread.

Ok....but last year and this year sounds like 2 to me....;)

I can't complain about that trade at all. He is another good weapon to have for a big armed QB and will help stretch the field.

That being said, I'm still hoping that we find a possession WR real soon. Brit hasn't given me any hope that he can do that job and our TE's still look pretty green as well.

DK needs a guy that he can count on to catch anything catchable.

I like the fact that he is a good gunner, because I wasn't sure who we had opposite Burley.

According to an article posted in the thread (I'm not going to go back and look for it), most of those passes were over 20 yards, and sporadic after the injury. He wasn't being thrown to consistently, and they were for the most part low percentage passes. There were also several "uncatchable". Not making excuses, nor defending him because I'm not that familiar with his play, just pointing this out because it seems relevant.

He has big play ability, but drops too many passes. Steelers had high hopes for him, but he was a disappointment.

Still like the trade, though.

It would sure be nice to get a player from the Steelers that would turn out to be something. He has ability but I am very leery they don't give up on talent very often.

Yeah, but they are loaded at WR.

He has rare physical talent, but he's struggled. Plenty of guys like that. Hopefully, he can realize his potential. I'm not counting on it, but we didn't give up much.