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Nah, you didn't waste anyone's time. I appreciate the reply. TE has become such a black hole in FF that our league is thinking of just going with a 2nd Flex player next year. There's basically Gronk, a couple other pretty good TEs, and then, stugatz.

Rudolph just gets targeted so much more consistently than Witten, it's hard to pass up in a PPR league if it's between those two. Last 5 games, he's been targeted 7,7,9,9,4. In those leagues you don't need the yardage volume per se, you need the volume of expected targets to guide your scoring (as of course, you know). The ball is heading in his direction far more often than Witten. If your're ok with a floor of 7-8 points at the TE spot, he may be a safer play.

That said, with Zeke out, there could be for more passing plays called thus opening up Witten for some TD upside. Vegas as DAL at 22.5 so the TD gotta come from somewhere.

Just pick up a TE (if available) that's playing Cleveland each week. They tend to do well.

Hmm - Eric Ebron and Darren Fells are both available, but I remember conversing with you about getting burned by that strategy recently. Remember Jack Doyle? I've been eyeballing Charles Clay's progress coming off a knee injury, but I think that might not be until next week. I've also been watching OJ Howard because by all rights he should stud, but so far he can't even beat out Cameron Brate to be starter. (Brate has been a solid-to-good pickup in my other league, btw.) I think I'm going to go against my "matchup" rationale, and go with the higher ceiling with Witten. Besides, I've always liked Witten since he came out of U Tenn.

I do remember that conversation. And to add to that, Ebron has been a lower ranking TE all season long. I'm not saying it's a great play but it is an option. Actually, I think Stafford is going off this Sunday (no surprise there) so the ball could go just about anywhere. I like Tate in this spot too. I think he could have a good game.

And I agree, I think Brate is in a good spot too.

Question-- People's overall opinion of Carlos Hyde vs Jordan Howard?

In PPR, I'd take Hyde. He's caught almost 3 times as many passes (40-14). Non-PPR, Howard gets more yards rushing (662-494), but Hyde's receiving yards more than make up for that. Both have (only) 4 TDs. Both have favorable matchups this week, but Carlos will soon have a competent QB. I have no idea how Jimmy G playing will affect Hyde's touches, though.

Just to close the loop on the discussion, and because I think it would be good if people posted the outcome of their tougher FF decisions, Witten ended up with 12.9 points and Rudolph scored 8.7. So Witten was the better choice, although I don't know if I'd call 12.9 a high ceiling. Never the less, it looks like I'll win this week. 6-4 on the season and the 3rd seed in playoffs in my league if they started next weekend.

In the spirit of the Dave's post, I played Howard in my DFS cash lineup, Hyde in DFS GPPs and season long leagues. So I got exposure to both. Howard didn't help my cash game whatsoever.

I have 3 slots for RBs, and I have the following...
Alfred Morris vs Philly
Tevin Coleman vs Seattle
Chris Thompson vs NO
Crowell vs Jax
Orleans Darkwa vs KC

I currently have Morris and Coleman (Freeman has a concussion) starting, with Thompson in that 3rd slot (it's a flex position). Do you guys think this is the right play? Crowell has been playing much better than the first few weeks of the season, and the weather is going to be tough on Sunday... but Jax is a tough D. Darkwa won't move from my bench until they play a soft defense. They play catch up too much.

Also, I have to choose whether to start Devante Parker vs Tampa or Maclin vs Packers. This is a tough decision for me.

Dave, Jax is first against the pass in terms of yardage, but 23rd against the rush.

As much as it pains me to say, since I have a don't own or start Browns rule.

I would put Crow in over Morris, that Philly D is tough against the run.

Thanks for the suggestions, Vers and Psy!

Sorry man. I won't offer any more advice.

No worries... I actually didn't know Jax's good D was so biased to the pass. I thought their run D was tough as well.

Has been since they traded for Dareus.

Doesn't hurt that they've played the Bengals who are dead last in rushing, the Chargers who are 25th, and us who are actually up at 23rd.

Let's say you had Josh Gordon on your FF roster and you are in contention for the playoffs in your league - but you need to win this week. Do you play Josh Gordon? In one league I have Deandre Hopkins and Michael Thomas at WR, and a choice of Devin Funchess, Emmanuel Sanders, and Gordon at Flex. In my other league I have Hopkins and Jordy Nelson (ugh) at WR and a choice of Mohammed Sanu, Tevin Coleman, Danny Amendola, and Juju Smith-Schuster at Flex, along with Gordon. (In this league, I'm leaning stronger towards Gordon, because Nelson has been ca-ca without Rodgers.) I'm nervous to play him though because a.) he has to be rusty and b.) Deshone Kizer.

Just know that whatever you choose to decide, it will be the wrong choice. :-p

What is San Diego's secondary like? Do they have a shutdown corner?

I'm probably going to pick him up and play him, but that's mostly because I'm way out of the playoffs.

Because b.) DeShone Kizer, I wouldn't play him. In fantasy, has any WR put up consistently decent numbers w/ Kizer at the helm? I can't recall. To be fair, that's been an issue for many WRs in the past couple of years. I think the best option of everyone available to recieve the ball on this team, particulary in PPR is Duke Johnson. But his usage seems to be sporadic at best.

We also don't know how far along Josh is in the offense. I'd wait to see how he does in his first week back. I think there is more risk in playing him than sitting him this Sunday, IMO.

But, if you have no one else......

Thanks oober and Memphis for the replies - I'm keeping Josh on the bench this week. Rolling with either Funchess or Sanders in one league, and in the other league, either Jordy Nelson in a favorable matchup, or maybe Tevin Coleman (Flex).

Here is another reason why I'm not necessarily a fan of Gordon this Sunday.


https://twitter.com/adamlevitan/status/936244908482007040

But the Chargers' D might be a safe bet.

Well Funchess over Sanders is a no brainer with the Broncos QB woes.

Your other league however is a bit murky. Nelson is screwed without Rodgers, Hundley leans on Adams heavily and it looks like Freeman is going to play this week. I'd probably go Smith-Shuster in that one if he's back.

Played a ton of cheap Kizer on DFS today. Hope it sticks.

with D. Hopkins.

But I played Cincy D...

I switched to Jets D when I saw their laundry list of injuries. Not much better.

Still winning $2.50 as of now though!

I had the Bengals D in one league, Seahawks in 2 leagues, and Titans' in 1.

Bengals got 1 pt. Seattle got 1 pt. TN got 12.

12 is okay, but the other two are freaking horrible.

So I have a few questions for this week, just since it's the playoff.

Do you guys think I should go for Goff or JG this weekend? I like them both, but JG has the better matchup, but has thrown an interception every start.

For WR I'm between Josh Gordon, Stefon Diggs, Sammy Watkins and Dede Westbrook. They all have their own ups and downs. I wonder if the Browns will have any success against the Ravens. Stefon Diggs hasn't had the same big playmaking ability since Keenum has been in. Sammy's a deep threat for Goff, but is extremely boom or bust. And Dede has been great since his return with the Jags. He leads them in targets, but he's going against Houston and still has Bortles throwing him the ball. Some perspective would be much appreciated

Goff faces Seahawks def...16th against the pass

JG faces Titans def...22nd against the pass

that's a pick em for me.

If you are going with Goff I would go

Goff, Gordon, Watkins

If you are going JG

JG, Gordon, Diggs.

Gordon faces Ravens def. 12th against the pass...factor in Kizer...but I think Gordon wins matchups and hopefully Kizer can get'er done

Also, Ravens just lost their #1 corner... something to keep in mind for Gordon.

Thanks guy. Just to clarify my earlier post a bit, I just need to pick 1 out of the 4 WRs.

haha I completely misread your post lol

I'd make a case for Gordon or Diggs...leaning towards Gordon tho

Gordon

In my semi-finals match today, I'm already down by 42 points thanks to Kareem Hunt, and ESPN FF projects me to lose by 30. As I posted in the "Gordon" thread in the Gameday forum, my 2 WR's are Michael Thomas and Deandre Hopkins (who is supposed to play). My question is at Flex: Devin Funchess / Josh Gordon / Marshawn Lynch. Advice in the other thread was to play Funchess, which I tended to agree with at the time. But now, I think I need a home run at Flex to compete - which of those 3 are most likely to "go off" and maybe, possibly get me 25-30 points? (PPR format)

My other issue is a black hole at TE (my Achilles heel) - choosing between Cameron Brate, Charles Clay, and Ben Watson, who I just picked up today. I'm thinking Clay because Tyrod Taylor's back, but also thinking back to Watson's strong showing (17 pts) vs the Browns earlier this year.

- Although Hopkins has been playing well, TJ Yates is now the starting QB
- Jimmy Smith is out for Baltimore. I'm guessing Gordon could have a high ceiling this week and some bombs heading his way.
- Funchess has been getting a ton of red zone targets and is going up against a bad GB Defense. Couple in the fact Rodgers is back, Newton may be needing to throw the ball a ton to keep pace. I really like Cam in this spot and game flow in either direction could work in his favor. If CAR is down, he'll need to pass. If CAR is up it could be do to him, either in the passing game or his improving equity running the ball.
- For TE, Charles Clay may be the safest choice. I say safe because my mindset is generally thinking in DFS mode. He's 3K on a site like draft kings. That's very cheap. But I think Miami, generally has a poor pass D and this could be a let down game after upsetting the Pats. Brate and Watson targets seem inconsistent, although with Winston back as QB (true?), it may level out for Brate.

Sorry, no strong takes in any direction-- just giving some thought to the players as I'm considering them as well.

Depressing fantasy day.

I've been riding Wilson all year long to the playoffs in 3 leagues and he's doing nothing.

Started Funchess with confidence - nothing

Started Nelson with confidence - nothing

Expected a blow up from Brandin Cooks - nothing

Expected a blow up from Alex Collins - nothing

Hunter Henry looked like a solid start against the Cheifs banged up suspect secondary, he gets injured and Gates gets a TD.

Frustrating weekend, hopefully you guys did better.

Antonio Brown had been carrying my team.

Championship match this weekend ... Case Keenum has done a pretty good job for me since Wentz got injured, but I'm a little concerned that tonight's game in Green Bay will turn into a running game, with the forecast calling for 8 degree temps. I have Blake Bortles (vs Niners) on my bench, and he has averaged 15.1 ppg this year and 22.3 over the last 4 games. Would you consider a switch? My opponent has Drew Brees going, so you can pencil in 20 pts there. I can't have my QB going for 8 points, since I'm already a 6 point underdog (based on projections).

I also have the same choices as last week at Flex - a dinged up Devin Funchess (TB), Josh Gordon (Chi), Lamar Miller (Pitt), and Marshawn Lynch (Philly). Funchess nearly killed me last week with only 5 pts, but I lucked out when my opp lost Antonio Brown. Which would you start? All opinions are welcomed - thanks in advance.

Just to close the loop on my little championship match, Keenum got me 9 pts and Funchess got me 4. Bortles had 22 on my bench, while Josh Gordon loafed his way to a 3 point "effort". Won't see what Lamar Miller or Marshawn Lynch get until todays games. I'm down 39 points with 2 players going today: DeAndre Hopkins and my defense (Steelers). My opponent has Alshon Jeffery playing today. Unless Hopkins has one of his monster 40 pt games, the Steelers get a couple defensive scores, and Jeffery tweaks a hammy, I'll probably lose by 20 or so. So it goes ... at least the loser's share will cover my league dues and a couple ribeyes to grill for New Years Eve.

Merry Christmas guys, and thanks for the advice all season.

I'm in a similar boat with Hopkins, all I can do is hope that Joe Haden is playing.

RIP Joe Haden's groin. Thank you for getting me the chip, DeAndre